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Dota 2 Beta Thread 2: Real Talk Discouraged [Magnus, Teams, 6.75b, 150+ Shop Items]

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Lovin PL but kinda suckin at it ... first game and my score is awful, but I really want to learn how to use him properly.. having 8 images at once is intense


question though, lets say I get attack speed or lifesteal, when my images strike an enemy.. will I benefit from the lifesteal / will they benefit from my stats such as attack speed?

:)


also silly question, but PL = jungle?
 
Lovin PL but kinda suckin at it ... first game and my score is awful, but I really want to learn how to use him properly.. having 8 images at once is intense


question though, lets say I get attack speed or lifesteal, when my images strike an enemy.. will I benefit from the lifesteal / will they benefit from my stats such as attack speed?

:)


also silly question, but PL = jungle?

Lifesteal doesn't work on his illusions as far as I know, and you can jungle with him once he has some levels, he's too squisy and doesn't have enough illusions early on.
 
Also loving PL at the moment. Only lost one game, rest he's just crushed.

Shoutouts to 1.09 for showing me this Tranquil boots PL build, so OP.
 
I've actually never built tranquil boots before. They weren't in dota back when I played. How much of an issue is the whole breaking part of the boots?
 
Not to much. Power Treads are 60 move speed, Broken Tranquil are 55 (Well, 50 for now, but Icefrog said they have it fixed for the next patch)
 
I'm really enjoying Lycan. I dont do a bunch of ganking, its what I need to improve on but it feels good to solo Roshan early and later for the team and going berzerk push late in the game.
 
Playing bots on random and I think Alchemist and Spirit Breaker (?) are my two fave heroes.

Interesting choices. They're both pretty crappy heroes. I like playing Alchy a lot too, though. Farming rice is my passion.

Not to much. Power Treads are 60 move speed, Broken Tranquil are 55 (Well, 50 for now, but Icefrog said they have it fixed for the next patch)

Power Treads only adds 5 to normal boots? Did they nerf it? I could have sworn they used to add more.
 
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Sure I'll carry as Lich!!

Also, hostility towards Asians, WTF!!! Just minding my own business and out of nowhere the ES on my team calls me a wannabe. Okay, yeah sure I was messing around with the Na'Vi. tag because before my Lich match, some dude was streaming my other match and I forgot to take it off. That wasn't the problem.

The problem was when he says I should be playing with other Asians. He then asks me to show him my biceps and I say no. He says Asians are weak and don't have any muscles.
He then says he wants to meet me in a dark alley to beat me up. I mean, c'mon man, it's one thing to just talk some random crap but saying you want to physically hurt me is borderline insane.
 
anyone have a team ready for a 5v5 scrim?

You'll have to give me a heads up, but sometimes I got 5 EG Gunnarbokrz ready to go. Be aware though, we are beyond current professional level esports, and pioneers in the MOBA metagame (our strategies get picked up by LoL, HoN, and Dota teams).
 
Need to figure out PL, I keep throwing with this pick.
 
Well, last match hardly redeemed Alchemist in my eyes. 1-12-5 and finished the game with only a Vanguard to call his own. Pub 5ths, gawwwwwwwwwd.
 
In today's instances of "Things Drkirby never noticed" is, drum roll please....

Slaradar takes 15% extra damage when using Sprint. I just glaceed over that part of the tool tip, and have never heard someone bring it up.

Also, I have been busy checking number:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=33678&p=203288&viewfull=1#post203288


Lots and lots of mistakes. This is a follow up to this:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=33678&p=201618&viewfull=1#post201618

and this:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=33678&p=202620&viewfull=1#post202620


So yeah, next patch like a 1/3rd of the characters are going to feel slightly different, then when it throws off your game, you can blame me. You are welcome.
 
Just realized I've been playing PL so wrong. I thought his W ability was just to instantly spawn an image... not a get away, rofl. people kept yellin use your invinc / invis and I would always REPEAT BUT I DON'T HAVE ONE!!


wow, the game has fucking changed now >:)

*use w* *watch enemy hero chase image* *pop out hit the fool with q*

tehehhee'



<333 phantom lancer
 
In today's instances of "Things Drkirby never noticed" is, drum roll please....

Slardar takes 15% extra damage when using Sprint. I just glaceed over that part of the tool tip, and have never heard someone bring it up.
Definitely a subtle thing one doesn't notice at first, but it's significant enough in practice that it can get you into trouble if you're not careful. Whether you're engaging or breaking off, one needs to be reasonably selective about its use.
 
Killed 3 guys in my last match, all thanks to one guy who actually pulled the team together.

It was the first time I felt like I was playing DOTA the way it was supposed to and it was so exciting. When I got my first ever kill I could feel my heart pumping, and then from there things really started to gel together for me.

I'm still ass at last hitting (I had like 58 or something vs the two good players in my team having well over 200). And I don't really understand how I should spend my money (I never have enough to buy anything blue). I'm afraid though that the game has its hooks in me. <3<3<3
 
In today's instances of "Things Drkirby never noticed" is, drum roll please....

Slaradar takes 15% extra damage when using Sprint. I just glaceed over that part of the tool tip, and have never heard someone bring it up.

Also, I have been busy checking number:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=33678&p=203288&viewfull=1#post203288


Lots and lots of mistakes. This is a follow up to this:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=33678&p=201618&viewfull=1#post201618

and this:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=33678&p=202620&viewfull=1#post202620


So yeah, next patch like a 1/3rd of the characters are going to feel slightly different, then when it throws off your game, you can blame me. You are welcome.

How do you even get the data out of the files? And what files do you even look at? Good job by the way.
 
Man... Dazzle is so fucking fun to play as. Who would have thought? I think I may have found character number 3. Still <3 Sniper and Leshrac though (two characters on the complete opposite end of the spectrum).

I'm still ass at last hitting (I had like 58 or something vs the two good players in my team having well over 200). And I don't really understand how I should spend my money (I never have enough to buy anything blue). I'm afraid though that the game has its hooks in me. <3<3<3

Drag the item you want to buy into the little black box next to the shop icon. This will break down the item into several different component pieces which are much cheaper.
 
I wonder if valve will attempt to implement the in game store/items before the games full release.

Supposedly everything will be wiped when the real game comes out, so I don't see them implementing items into the beta just yet. However, they have spent a lot putting custom couriers and items into the beta, so there's an obvious focus on it.

Also, what's the best way to use Witch Doctor's ult? The cast range isn't that big and you are just a sitting duck when it's pew-pewing.
 
Anyone have some windrunner tips? I am having troubles getting kills, it seems that whenever I start a fight, get off the shackle, etc when team members are around I can never seem to get the last hit and end up with a lot of assists.

Any ideas towards an improvement of my item build would also be appreciated. I usually go tango, salve, 2x clarity and 2x mantle of intelligence, then build into power treds and upgrade the mantle's into nulls. Next I get an Orchid and after that I choose something situational.
 
Anyone have some windrunner tips? I am having troubles getting kills, it seems that whenever I start a fight, get off the shackle, etc when team members are around I can never seem to get the last hit and end up with a lot of assists.

Any ideas towards an improvement of my item build would also be appreciated. I usually go tango, salve, 2x clarity and 2x mantle of intelligence, then build into power treds and upgrade the mantle's into nulls. Next I get an Orchid and after that I choose something situational.

it varies but get phase boots instead. also, force staff is a great first item. i usually get that first before I decide to go mek, pipe or orchid.
 
Also, what's the best way to use Witch Doctor's ult? The cast range isn't that big and you are just a sitting duck when it's pew-pewing.
it's kinda like Crystal Maiden's to me. Very situational because of the vulnerability. When you think you can get it off without becoming the center of attention and after all enemy stuns have been used, it's great.

I tend to use it when others on my team are the targets in team fights. People forget about the Doctor when the damage dealing heroes are attacking them. When you sense that you've been forgotten about...the time is right for that ult.

But again, it's important that you've confirmed that the team has used their stuns/hexes already, or you'll get shut down. Not sure if silence stop is, but I'd assume it does.


Anyone have some windrunner tips? I am having troubles getting kills, it seems that whenever I start a fight, get off the shackle, etc when team members are around I can never seem to get the last hit and end up with a lot of assists.

Any ideas towards an improvement of my item build would also be appreciated. I usually go tango, salve, 2x clarity and 2x mantle of intelligence, then build into power treds and upgrade the mantle's into nulls. Next I get an Orchid and after that I choose something situational.
if you want more last hits, simply save our powershot for the killing blow on fleeing enemies.

Or you can go with a more offensive build. Say, Treads + Linken's (to survive that main enemy attack) + Mjolnir + ____________ (something that will add to your dps...maybe a hyperstone? MKB? Eye?) Either way, deal more damage if you want a better chance at last hits...and use the power shot to finish off foes rather than immediately after shackling or something.
 
Supposedly everything will be wiped when the real game comes out, so I don't see them implementing items into the beta just yet. However, they have spent a lot putting custom couriers and items into the beta, so there's an obvious focus on it.

Also, what's the best way to use Witch Doctor's ult? The cast range isn't that big and you are just a sitting duck when it's pew-pewing.

Get shadow blade, start ulti, then activate it. I believe it doesn't cancel the channel.
 
It doesn't, but his ult is not so strong that it's worth spending 3300 on. If you really want to land that ult get a BKB instead, as it isn't countered by a 90g item.
 
Anyone have some windrunner tips? I am having troubles getting kills, it seems that whenever I start a fight, get off the shackle, etc when team members are around I can never seem to get the last hit and end up with a lot of assists.

Any ideas towards an improvement of my item build would also be appreciated. I usually go tango, salve, 2x clarity and 2x mantle of intelligence, then build into power treds and upgrade the mantle's into nulls. Next I get an Orchid and after that I choose something situational.

Depending on how you are playing windrunner, letting your carries get the kills is good enough. But powershot is a good nuke for finishing off wounded enemies due to its dmg and range. You can also try to focus fire him down. In the end, as long as the guy dies, you have done your job.
 
I pretty much always go Basi, Phase, Mek, Force Staff, and then Sheep.
it varies but get phase boots instead. also, force staff is a great first item. i usually get that first before I decide to go mek, pipe or orchid.

Get Mek before Forcestaff, it's much stronger the earlier you get it.

Or you can go with a more offensive build. Say, Treads + Linken's (to survive that main enemy attack) + Mjolnir + ____________ (something that will add to your dps...maybe a hyperstone? MKB? Eye?).

Wes is that you?
 
I don't think I've ever seen a linken's on Windrunner. I've never even considered it. She's so good at running away already, it seems kind of redundant. And if you're doing a troll WR build there's better/cheaper stuff like Eul's and Blink dagger.
 
I don't think I've ever seen a linken's on Windrunner. I've never even considered it. She's so good at running away already, it seems kind of redundant. And if you're doing a troll WR build there's better/cheaper stuff like Eul's and Blink dagger.

Wes was farming it the other day on his 10/0/10 Windrunner, at about the 50 minute mark. Gotta make sure he doesnt feed anymore.
 
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