shira
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Well if you can last hit with him, you are probably pretty good with anyone.
I know some people who pick him just to rub it in.
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Well if you can last hit with him, you are probably pretty good with anyone.
I know some people who pick him just to rub it in.
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Schweinehund
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LC is based off Garithos in wc3, a lot of peopled liked his voice lines, and icefrog's original bio for LC painted him as super xenophobic.
edit: Nvm, thought you meant ore as in her character, not her bio. Yeah some others have pointed out that her home dimension might just be humans and her xenophobia develops in this new world, even though its not explicitly stated. Would be great to see her having a rivalry with dark seer. It seems pit lord might be the demon she fought in the bio.
Dance Inferno
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Ah I didn't realize there were videos in the Reddit link, thanks.
Imp the Dimp
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I used to have a 20+ wins advantage and it has melted away within 10 days in which I mainly solo queued. I'm now at a precisely 50% win percentage despite being far and ahead the best in my team on a regular basis. I'm being teamed up with chimpanzees who lack any sort of general understanding of the game and who can't resist feeding the opponent's only carry. I'm so fucking frustrated.
SaberVulcan
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That was pretty much the only way to play treant many moons ago. I remember, now this is really long ago, that I was trying out for a team for THR league and I was told "Pick Zeus or Treant and go solo mid". Pretty much sat in lane with Living Armor on myself and farmed up Radiance/MoM and just right clicked like a boss.
Good times. I dont even think Armlet existed back then.
Haha. I was keeping a 50-60 game lead over my losses until this week. I took a break from DotA for work and schoolwork, came back a few days ago (solo/duo queueing) and now im down to like, 38 games ahead. Feels bad man.
Sentenza
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Damn, that Magnataur concept was fairly better than what they went for.
same as Troll Warlord.
Anyway, yes, that art is just great.
GordonHalfman
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I want to try a quelling blade on Treant to see if I can deny everything under the sun for the first five minutes. I still feel like his ult is very handy versus a team of right-clickers, like Drow, Viper and Sniper. (It's not uncommon for me to go against all three.)
Speaking of Viper I'm having a lot of trouble against him. Even though Drow is the one everyone complains about, most games with a Viper seem to end up with him getting a kill every 90 seconds or thereabouts. He usually goes mid, and I'm not sure the best way to gank mid unless you have enough to tower dive.
Speaking of Viper I'm having a lot of trouble against him. Even though Drow is the one everyone complains about, most games with a Viper seem to end up with him getting a kill every 90 seconds or thereabouts. He usually goes mid, and I'm not sure the best way to gank mid unless you have enough to tower dive.
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The Magnataur concept looks exactly like a Kung Fu Panda rhino
SaberVulcan
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Viper is a very powerful pub hero. He is arguably the best 1v1 hero in the game, and that becomes increasingly apparant post-level 6. He will out last hit you, out harass you, and later on he will be very hard to gank because his Skin passive is so good and he naturally builds tanky items. The reason for this is very few people will gank early on in a game, when Viper is at his weakest and easiest to gank. Same can be said for heroes like Shadow Fiend who tend to roll over pub games, cept he requires skill.
Just gotta ask someone to roam mid and gank him when hes still sub-6. Do that 1-2 times and you should be strong enough to 1v1 him regardless of your hero.
Imp the Dimp
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Batrider beats him mid.
At the bare minimum he needs early levels and rune control. He CAN be played solo safe lane if your team is running a jungler/roaming support but it gets a bit harder to control the runes.
I've had great results as Silencer vs. Viper as well.
The Technomancer
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Hm, I wonder how Dark Seer would do as well...not ranged, but you have a counter to his slows and you can harass him with Ion Shell...
Imp the Dimp
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Definitely. I don't see exactly see how Viper is the best 1on1 in the game.
QoP is alright against Viper as well. Lich might be one of the best mid heroes in the game (owns Silencer even) but no one plays him mid. I have played Lich mid a few times (out of team necessity) and I have not a lost a single time. Warlock is strong mid too. NS if he turtles and survives until night time with not a huge deficit in CS will own anyone mid.
MET ME MID SOMEWHERE!
Ya, I've never played against a Lich mid. Sounds like you're making that up.
Gully State
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Yeah I hate laning against lich mid (deny the opponent XP/free nuke to harass). But at the same time, it's kind of a waste for him to be there considering there are other heroes that could use the levels/farm a lot better...
You should be lucky you haven't. Lich owns Silencer mid. His spells are useless against Lich because Lich can cast Dark Pact to gain back mana and cancel out the curse. Silencer just ends up wasting mana and gets out harassed by Frost Nova. When Lich gets lvl6 it's free kill on 60% health Silencer.
However Lich is better served as a hard support and allow the carry/side lane to turtle up. He serves the team better in this role.
Yep, barely win mid and lose the game instead, sounds like a pretty good decision.
It makes for good complaining fodder though. "I dominated mid and you feeders keep dying to Riki."
SaberVulcan
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Btw since the Chinese teams are done with their 2 month holiday, looks like they are still behind the times and Zenith picked Morphling: http://www.joindota.com/en/livestreams/2217-bts-tv-2
I think its only base damage though. Like if someone had 100 damage + 300 from a DR, they would only lose 42 Damage and still hit for 358. Should work really good against people like Drow, Lancer, and Tiny, who mostly grab stat items instead of pure damage items.
Yeah, the bench.
Lucky for me then. I'm make sure to offlane Silencer if I ever catch a wiff of Lich mid.
Ice cold. Even Lich is shaking.
This is mostly true though there are heroes that can outlane him. OD for one. I think OD is the absolute strongest 1v1 hero.
That said, magic immunity and carrying tips is key vs viper. Consider his ult like rupture. Just get out. Magic immunity keeps him from ORB walking you to death. Lifestealer us really good at this. Any hard carry can beat viper late so they key is not feeding him early.
Pureauthor
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Firstly, Zenith is Singaporean. Our CNY celebrations ended a month ago.
Second, the fact that the Morphling went Dagon 5 shows you how seriously they were taking the game.
Well he got Dagon after he had eblade/linkens and was like 13-0.
Also you guys should watch those games on ELG2 Team stream. My god.
http://www.twitch.tv/elg2team?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=www.joindota.com
Sentenza
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I had no idea of what you were talking about, I googled it and now I'm definitely sure people on this thread tend to have eyesight problems.
GordonHalfman
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I went mid as OmniKnight once when both Pudge and Tinker refused to go. #talesfromthetrench
I was forced mid as omni once against a TA. Sad thing is I dominated the lane and carried the game. Trench indeed.
Last time I went mid as Lich, it was because the both Tiny and Pudge refused to go mid, and wanted to lane together. Yeah, their lane sort of fed a lot. I was doing pretty good in the start too:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/63997750
http://dotabuff.com/matches/63997750
I played in a game last night with two BRs. I was Silencer mid, two friends were Shaman and Magnus top, then Venge and Kunkka bot (BRs).
I asked for wards, nothing. I pinged as I was coming down to gank while the lane was pushed up, nothing. I asked for sentries/dust to prevent Slark and PL from getting away, nothing. It was minute 10 and Venge had treads and two Wraithbands. I kid you not.
No response, no communication, just portugese in game as they were talking to each other.
I think I'm pretty much done playing unless I have a group of 5.
I asked for wards, nothing. I pinged as I was coming down to gank while the lane was pushed up, nothing. I asked for sentries/dust to prevent Slark and PL from getting away, nothing. It was minute 10 and Venge had treads and two Wraithbands. I kid you not.
No response, no communication, just portugese in game as they were talking to each other.
I think I'm pretty much done playing unless I have a group of 5.
Yeah. The Mag mostly looks too similar to Cent's design.
I'm guessing they're putting either beastmaster or windrunner mid, the other in the hard lane and tri the others. I don't see how is it that bad.
Pureauthor
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Nyx mid, BM or WR offlane (probably BM), trilane bot supporting Gyro. Seems workable.
Not to mention insane creep clearing potential, a long stun that pierces magic immunity, really good multi-stun initiation and Gyro as a carry is fairly standard these days.
I'm not seeing the issue.
Shittiest draft ever? What? As much as I prefer the Navi picks, that's far from the shittiest draft I've seen. But they will lose the game hard since Navi is the better team and I have no idea who these new dd players are.
shira
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LD and Naix is pretty unstoppable atm
dorkimoe
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Pureauthor
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Amongst all the Heroes, Phantom Lancer probably has the biggest gulf in terms of player-perception of him vs just how good he actually is.
Did he only play 3 matches for them or something?
Meh dude is a great supporter and t.b.h. I think he did a load of great plays that were way better than the one shown in the video...
It's a nice gesture anyway...
I'm dying. :lol
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