Schweinehund
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moreso the jungle doom who leaves your solo lane against a free farming void, and then has nothing to contribute because it takes him 6 mins to build a midas when in lane it would take 3.
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Dota 2 Beta Thread 4: Even Mike Ross Plays [Elder Titan]
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moreso the jungle doom who leaves your solo lane against a free farming void, and then has nothing to contribute because it takes him 6 mins to build a midas when in lane it would take 3.
i'm not seeing it. unless ofc you get tranquils on ta.
Manta not dispelling HH.
But that's an old one..
That's 6.77 patch you are looking at.
6.77 is already live, 6.77c is what's coming.
There's a reason TA fell out of the meta recently.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Speaking of Spirit Breaker, is there anything you can do to dodge/cancel the charge after he's already set on you? Besides him backing off.
Great changes, though I think nyx will still need some more.
Sorry to all the drow lovers, I don't mind her nerfs because she's been the most boring dota hero ever to me since I played dota 1 like 7 years ago. I avoid that hero like the plague, so boring. Her ulti needs to be changed from that +agi shit.
Hope this tiny patch doesn't delay 6.78 too much, still curious to see the underused hero buffs.
Edit: Also, not sure if this is true, but my chinese roommate says in competitive dota 1, drow is first picked/banned. Not sure if true, but that could explain the nerf.
Sorry to all the drow lovers, I don't mind her nerfs because she's been the most boring dota hero ever to me since I played dota 1 like 7 years ago. I avoid that hero like the plague, so boring. Her ulti needs to be changed from that +agi shit.
Hope this tiny patch doesn't delay 6.78 too much, still curious to see the underused hero buffs.
Edit: Also, not sure if this is true, but my chinese roommate says in competitive dota 1, drow is first picked/banned. Not sure if true, but that could explain the nerf.
Your just saying that because you don't play ricers.
i think you can force staff him. heroes like dark seer can vacuum him to interrupt it also.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Tax season has hit its peak, so when I get home I'm pretty wiped out. Playing with you guys is definitely more fun, but it's also much more difficult since you're in a higher MMR than me, and I just haven't been feeling up to it. So I've been sticking to solo pubs where I can play lazily and it doesn't matter. Come April 15th you'll be seeing a lot more of me.
And I'll probably be fluent in Portuguese.
CarbonatedFalcon
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You know what could be fun with a new/redesigned ability? An orb effect that works like Shadow Demon's poison.
LD said today she's picked in Dota 1 as well.
Cyclone, Astral Imprisonment, Disrupt, basically anything that renders you "invincible". Or you can interrupt him before he reaches you.
It's also possible to get him stuck on a ledge or a different height level if your positioning is extremely good but that's a long shot.
It's still very strong in team fights, Drow is just more positioning dependent than she used to be, and that's the way it should be for ranged carries like her and Sniper.
Good positioning will always let you leverage the full power of Marksmanship.
Disruptor fucks him up good.
I tend to agree. I've lost a few games to Slarks recently, but even then, it was more about the circumstance and the rest of his team than the Slark player itself. He's been filling the "passable generic semi-carry" role in games I've played, where a Riki in his place would have actually been a lot scarier.
I also tend to agree. However, slark is way more fun to play!
Boo this man.
Except perhaps those buff suggestions. I can always agree to OM buffs.
WOOHOO NEW PATCH!! Patch days are always so exciting!
My small thoughts:
-Tranquil boots nerfed to hell and back and back to hell and back. Thank jesus. These boots were completely broken before, especially for carries. These will still be EXCELLENT boots in the early game, as they should be, but they'll be disposed of in the midgame. If you don't disassemble them, you run the risk of being extremely susceptible to ganks in exchange for increased jungle farming speed. A good trade. Will still be awesome boots throughout the game for a few select carries with high mobility, such as Weaver and Antimage.
-Huge early game Illuminate nerfs. It might not matter for those who spam Illuminate and only chakra themselves, but Kotl actually does have mana issues in the early game. I can see teams favoring leveling chakra earlier now, which is a nerf to Kotl's early teamfight and tower defending power. Along with the tranquil nerfs, I wouldn't be surprised to see him picking up arcane boots.
-Small carapace nerfs, I'm glad Icefrog isn't nerfing his burst power (which defines Nyx) but instead his broken carapace. Still think it could use a little more tweaking.
-Good job Drow whiners, you got a hero heavily butchered that was perfectly fine as long as your hero picks weren't retarded. Heroes like Nightstalker and Naix will completely ruining her when she at least had a fighting chance against them. Also I'm going to pretend that no one was talking shit about Sniper in this thread the past few pages.
-Halberd disarm change is good, not a huge buff but still useful against heroes that don't normally get a BKB like Antimage.
-FUCKING YES TREANT BUFFS. Fuck you guys, I think I'm one of the few people in the world that think this hero is actually good. This makes him even stronger at what I thought he was amazing at already (team tower diving) and also makes lanes that were slightly difficult completely trivial (soloing against QOP). I hope everyone keeps calling him shit though because I welcome even more buffs to my favorite tree.
My small thoughts:
-Tranquil boots nerfed to hell and back and back to hell and back. Thank jesus. These boots were completely broken before, especially for carries. These will still be EXCELLENT boots in the early game, as they should be, but they'll be disposed of in the midgame. If you don't disassemble them, you run the risk of being extremely susceptible to ganks in exchange for increased jungle farming speed. A good trade. Will still be awesome boots throughout the game for a few select carries with high mobility, such as Weaver and Antimage.
-Huge early game Illuminate nerfs. It might not matter for those who spam Illuminate and only chakra themselves, but Kotl actually does have mana issues in the early game. I can see teams favoring leveling chakra earlier now, which is a nerf to Kotl's early teamfight and tower defending power. Along with the tranquil nerfs, I wouldn't be surprised to see him picking up arcane boots.
-Small carapace nerfs, I'm glad Icefrog isn't nerfing his burst power (which defines Nyx) but instead his broken carapace. Still think it could use a little more tweaking.
-Good job Drow whiners, you got a hero heavily butchered that was perfectly fine as long as your hero picks weren't retarded. Heroes like Nightstalker and Naix will completely ruining her when she at least had a fighting chance against them. Also I'm going to pretend that no one was talking shit about Sniper in this thread the past few pages.
-Halberd disarm change is good, not a huge buff but still useful against heroes that don't normally get a BKB like Antimage.
-FUCKING YES TREANT BUFFS. Fuck you guys, I think I'm one of the few people in the world that think this hero is actually good. This makes him even stronger at what I thought he was amazing at already (team tower diving) and also makes lanes that were slightly difficult completely trivial (soloing against QOP). I hope everyone keeps calling him shit though because I welcome even more buffs to my favorite tree.
Sniper is a shitty herooooooooooo~
Green Biker Dude
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aui_2000 just bought an armlet for his spirit bear on his stream. is this viable or is he trolling
Armlet is the best item but he's trolling.
Green Biker Dude
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i'm not wondering about armlet's usefulness, i'm wondering how good it is on spirit bear. it doesn't drain his hp and it gives +40 dmg, +25 atk speed and +5 armor. it seems like it should drain his hp to me, considering how many stats that is for what it costs
I actually saw it a few times in multiple pro games lately though. Even during Asian games.
Dreams-Visions
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almost every pro game I've seen over the last 2 weeks with a LD has featured an early armlet on the bear.
lol that would make him imba as hell.
Treant need a buff on his ult AOE, currently it's way too small. Make it similar to Tide's ult range, then he'll be good.
It's pretty much a maelstrom for 100 less gold with higher damage and armor (some hp regen too), without the lightning. But maelstrom can be upgraded, so I think it's fine as it is. It's a good item, but not too strong.
Green Biker Dude
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yeah i guess. i had no idea people were buying that now, i haven't watched pro games in a while
it seems considerably better than maelstrom though, since you're not relying on rng and it's more useful for slapping people's shit. i dunno i'd have to compare in-game.
it seems considerably better than maelstrom though, since you're not relying on rng and it's more useful for slapping people's shit. i dunno i'd have to compare in-game.
Make it stop. My head is exploding.
Ye, it's stronger than maelstrom, but if you buy maelstrom, you probably wanted it to get mjollnir anyways. But if you go for armlet, you don't have the choice to upgrade it later. But I don't really like maelstrom and mjollnir since you can't entangle on the hits you get the mael/mjollnir lightning. I only go for mjollnir if the enemy team has illusion heroes (aka PL).
A bunch of people on reddit are saying BKB doesn't remove Disarm, I know rage does at least. I would test it my self, but Valve busted the commands to give bots items.
Welp that's this weeks patch taken care of, thanks Kirby.
I'm pretty sure BKB removes disarm... We could test it really quick if you want.
ok, just had a CM game with a guy names NyxNyxNyxNyx! or something who begged us to picked nyx, we did, then he tried to play a support nyx(which forced our omniknight to solo top) by autoattacking the creeps and pushing the lane right up to their tower and then trying to go aggressive on a shadow demon/luna lane at the river. Then he built toward dagon V of course, whined at me that I didn't suicide with him when he went in on the SD/luna even though the rubick mid was MIA.
Anyway, after going 10/10/11 after his 'blow up a dude then die' stategy was failing he abandoned. I finally got my farm caught up and we won the game because he had great teamfight ults, but why do people beg for picks in CM and then try and then suck?
Anyway, after going 10/10/11 after his 'blow up a dude then die' stategy was failing he abandoned. I finally got my farm caught up and we won the game because he had great teamfight ults, but why do people beg for picks in CM and then try and then suck?
And never be used. Pub whining wins again.
Anuxinamoon
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miranas arow :3
Did it three times in a row in one match, blindly firing arrow; oh look a spirit breaker trying to charge me
!I get the idea of trying to simultaneously valance CM and Pubs, but he never even gave Drow a chance in CM before spaying her.
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