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Dota 2 Beta Thread 4: Even Mike Ross Plays [Elder Titan]

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What about Treads? Strength for a bit of extra health, Int for some more mana when you need it and Sacrifice isn't giving you enough.
 
These crashes are really bothering me...it's like a 50/50 shot of me loading the game up or have to crt+alt+delete it :/
 
Go Treads for Carry Lich (new meta).

Treads -> Mjolnir -> Eye of Skadi -> Daedalus -> Assault Cuirass -> Guinsoo or Codex max level or max Necrobooks
 
Can't wait to get home and buy that lich set and a new courier. Time to play some support again instead of carry or semi carry. Weirdly excite!

Are the new chests out? Gotta force myself to just trade a key for 2 of the not so rare chest items this time.
 
What do you do after All Random leaves you hanging with a bag of rotten tomatoes?

Shrug it off and roll into Captain's Mode!

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http://dotabuff.com/matches/154403672

My CS was pretty rough at the start (and didn't get very high since the game was over before 40 minutes) due to lag spikes and the early game was looking pretty rough in the other lanes, but our superior teamfight pulled us through. Warlock too stronk. (Everyone on the team has a nuke, so getting Fatal Bonds off on even a few people will result in deaths quickly.)

The questionable Skeleton King pick from the other team certainly helped though.
 
So I played a game as KOTL last night with some gaffers but it's not showing up on my history or Dotabuff. I went 7-2 and I wanna show someone a few highlights but I can't even find the replay. What do?
 
Lose when PL is on my team, lose when PL is against my team. I just can't win guys.
this has been happening in almost every single PL game I've been in for the past month
 
Plus the only thing better than cleave is more cleave.


Lose when PL is on my team, lose when PL is against my team. I just can't win guys.
this has been happening in almost every single PL game I've been in for the past month

Maybe, just maybe, the issue isn't the PL.
 
I used to play Kunka with BF when I was starting out. Then I discovered the joy of SB/Crit Kunka and never looked back. By the time I have my crits creeps die in one cleave anyway.
 
Maybe, just maybe, the issue isn't the PL.

Well of course it's not just the PL, but there are several things that PL's do on my team and PL's do on the opposing team that are just jarring (in terms of decision making and item builds.) I hardly play carries but I like to think I play a good/decent support.
 
Well of course it's not just the PL, but there are several things that PL's do on my team and PL's do on the opposing team that are just jarring (in terms of decision making and item builds.) I hardly play carries but I like to think I play a good/decent support.

The biggest thing you'll see better PL players doing is microing illusions to farm multiple neutral camps. At a certain point, unless you're team fighting, you should be able to be clearing a lane and 2+ jungle camps at once, at least.

Of course the change to tranquils may affect the sustainability of that somewhat. Was too scared to test it in our CM game earlier on Luna, which is why I went phase instead (racecar!). Not the biggest fan of treads on her. BTs certainly good late, but very much a luxury item.
 
Why don't you do it?

That's what people always say but the problem is that solo ganks with no vision are usually a bad idea. You ask a random on your team to go with you and they have a 50/50 chance of actually going with you.

Sometimes you run into something where you make one small mistake or a random claims you did and they say "Don't ask me to gank with you anymore."

The best answer is to play in stacks instead of solo, but of course that isn't always an option.
 


Losing games like this are so fucking annoying. Team picks 3 carries and they all had no farm. Lost top lane horribly to weaver and gave Lifestealer free farm bot. The enemy team is basically a Lifestealer and Weaver show. Everyone else had hardly any presence.

Worst part about it is that we won a few teamfights later on that gave me some sliver of hope, but then team just throws it away by engaging 3v5. Ugh.
 
Seems Valve also fixed the bug where Neutrals didn't dispel the Tranquil Boots Heal. Likely effects Jungle Axe and Ursa a lot.
 
Why don't you do it?

I was playing carry all my games. I even bought the hard laners a set of wards early on with random gold on the third game because I was so sick of getting buttravaged by Naix, but instead they just put it on the magic bush and rune, which were promptly countered. Eurgh, I'm still salty.

Seems Valve also fixed the bug where Neutrals didn't dispel the Tranquil Boots Heal. Likely effects Jungle Axe and Ursa a lot.

Wat? 'Only damage from player-controlled units will trigger Break.' according to the wiki.
 
Its not the break, its the Heal will be dispelled. Before you could just tank creeps while healing, when the heal is supposed to have the same non-combat rules as a Healing Salve (Any damage over 20 cancels it)
 
Its not the break, its the Heal will be dispelled. Before you could just tank creeps while healing, when the heal is supposed to have the same non-combat rules as a Healing Salve (Any damage over 20 cancels it)

Wow. Way overnerfed. Twenty second heal, sixty second CD, 25 ms on break, AND the heal now breaks on creep attacks? Those boots are complete ass now. They could've used any 2 of those nerfs, but 4? Geez.

That's going to hurt a lot of junglers.
 
There goes my PL tranquil+soul ring combo for max lance harassment. I never thought tranquil boots heal was that egregious to necessitate it being nerfed to hell. I mean, 25 Movement Speed? Hahaha.
 
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