Togglesworlh
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Just don't start actually playing until you're at the pro level. Mhm, mhm.snack said:
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Dota 2 Beta Thread: [Brewmaster]
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Stahsky
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Hmm, I'm not sure. This seems like the sort of game where just getting into it and playing it would be the only viable way to truly understand it. You can look up items and heroes elsewhere, sure. Maybe some youtube videos out there that can go over the concepts?
Except that the bots are insane towerdiving motherfuckers. I tried an all-bot match once and right off the bat, an enemy Tidehunter chased me ALL THE FUCKING WAY TO MY BACK TOWER and killed me! I was playing Lion, and it was my first time playing him. I would try practice matches with human players to actually get a feel for the game.Stahsky said:
I really like that the bots actually chat though.
FieryBalrog
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It's not even close. I'll be happy to calculate for you if you want.Drkirby said:
It's also easy to understand why. The War3 engine defaults to 'cast spell by left clicking on guy'. That's the easiest to code and the vast majority of spells are targeted this way. Skillshots had to be specially coded in (like Pudge's hook, or Earthshakers Fissure). That's why they were considered so unique and special in DotA, and also why they acted kinda wonky (like the way Pudge's hook would path strangely).
Riot on the other hand loves skillshots and their engine is made for it from the start. There are heroes with all skillshots (like Lux), but almost every hero has at least one.
And yes, there's a lot of stupid legacy stuff in DotA like Skeleton King's one-button wonder or a large number of heroes with only 2 actives. A few have been reworked but there's a lot of them left. The difference in complexity and design with the newer heroes from some of the older ones is really stark, who have been around since 2005 or earlier.
I don't think people are denying that denying adds complexity. That's not usually the problem people have with it.Cheeto said:
Well I just played my three first games tonight with my friends from NaE (hongaf will recognize 
) it was pretty cool, game feels a bit slower than expected, and it clearly still needs improvement (anyone knows if there is a way to have the map in the right side?) but overall we had our fun. Also 3 wins out of 3 helps!
Anyone knows how does the matchmaking system work? sorry if it has already been asked, I haven't been following dota 2 news at all, I've just had the time to barely play a few hon games lately ...
) it was pretty cool, game feels a bit slower than expected, and it clearly still needs improvement (anyone knows if there is a way to have the map in the right side?) but overall we had our fun. Also 3 wins out of 3 helps!Anyone knows how does the matchmaking system work? sorry if it has already been asked, I haven't been following dota 2 news at all, I've just had the time to barely play a few hon games lately ...
You can't have right side Minimap, and as for Matchmaking there is probably an internal rating it uses between the 3 skill tiers to place people, but if there aren't enough people I think it just throws you with whoever.Madouu said:Well I just played my three first games tonight with my friends from NaE (hongaf will recognize
Anyone knows how does the matchmaking system work? sorry if it has already been asked, I haven't been following dota 2 news at all, I've just had the time to barely play a few hon games lately ...
I now understand what everyone was talking about with the "lag".Madouu said:Well I just played my three first games tonight with my friends from NaE (hongaf will recognize
Anyone knows how does the matchmaking system work? sorry if it has already been asked, I haven't been following dota 2 news at all, I've just had the time to barely play a few hon games lately ...
Basically, it's the amount of time when your hero is standing still between you clicking and your hero starting moving to where you clicked. If your hero is already moving and you change destination, it seems just fine, it's only taking off from a dead stop where the problem area is. Still, I didn't even notice this until someone else pointed it out to me.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I'm hoping they add a concede option at some point in the future. Don't really like having to wait till the enemy team gets bored farming my team in the fountain to end the game.
I think the best thing is to be in voice chat with a friend who also knows the game. It helps ease you into the game.Stahsky said:
Nope, I called dibs first. And we can win! Maybe! Possibly! Likely not, but still!rac said:
Also, Tidehunter bot is a beast early game.
Uooo, I have the game now thanks to a friend. I'm going to play a lot with bots, till I know most heroes, and then possibly try to join some inhouse. If I find any good guide for beginners (I'll also look for that), I'll give a link.
I'm trying to create a practice game with my friend, but I don't see any way to invite him to the lobby. How can we do this?
Ah ok, I've restarted the game, and now I can see games in the practice tab. I will have to report this bug!
PD: It was not a bug, didnt know the password thing also filtered games. Weird, but useful.
I'm trying to create a practice game with my friend, but I don't see any way to invite him to the lobby. How can we do this?
Ah ok, I've restarted the game, and now I can see games in the practice tab. I will have to report this bug!
PD: It was not a bug, didnt know the password thing also filtered games. Weird, but useful.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Sebulon3k said:
Yeah, our Lion had phase boots at the end of the game. I wasn't doing much better though. I also messed up Enigma's ult a few times and finally realized at the end that I should use his E before R.
Even though I've played HoN a lot I still feel confused, even on what to buy at start even though I had that down pretty well in HoN.
Teknopathetic
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The only way hongaf would lose to that 5 is if they let Anbokr mid or play Spectre.
Pulling this off can be quite difficult because it gives the enemy time to react, usually I just do the R and then E after cause at least you can get 1 tick of the E, at least until I get BKB.PoorFate said:
Nah QWER is too easy, but this is me coming from HoN.MrKnives said:
Also if you let Meteorain play Drow Ranger or Sanjay play Windrunner.Teknopathetic said:
H.Cornerstone
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Whose the best STR hero for beginners? Seems like every team I am on as a distinct lack of of STR heroes as everyone goes agl or int. I tried Axe but not sure if he is the best.
Hmm can anyone suggest some basic items for Lina/Zeus? Other then bottle, Aghanim's Scepter, and phase/arcane boots. I have no idea what to buy assuming I make enough money to buy that stuff.
Getting better at the game but I need to figure out how to make more money, I feel like I waste alot of time traveling to other lanes to gank and not always getting the kills.
Getting better at the game but I need to figure out how to make more money, I feel like I waste alot of time traveling to other lanes to gank and not always getting the kills.
Why did no one tell me about Force Staff sooner? Its like the best item ever IMO. Make your enemy suddenly out of position, get a boost in speed, get away, save an ally, get an ally into position, cut down trees, what isn't to like! It is also built in parts, so while it costs 50 more gold then the blink dagger, it is much easier to obtain if you are doing badly. I just love the utility.
Also, it doesn't have the 3 second damage stipulation, and Pudge can use it too.
Also, it doesn't have the 3 second damage stipulation, and Pudge can use it too.
Refer to the OP?JudgeN said:
Blink Dagger doesn't really serve the same purpose as a Force Staff, Blink Dagger is almost always used as an initiation tool, Force Staff has far more utility, for example all the reasons you mentioned, you can't really use a force staff to initiate because you'll get disabled.Drkirby said:
Also Kagete, you were talking about how you can't upgrade chicken from anywhere but you can, just buy the recipe and it'll automatically fly it, even if its not at base.
But yeah, Force Staff is more or less LoL's Flash (In terms of Range, blink is roughly 3 times the distance of LoL's flash), except over a .3 second period. I don't even know if you can stop someone mid push. It does not play well with lag at all though, when playing with bots while having a torrent going, they would fly in random directions instead of where I expected them. At first I thought I may just have the wrong idea of what it meant by 'Player Direction', but it was just the lag making it so I didn't see the bot turn around for a second, when the server received the command for the push.
Togglesworlh
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You're right, we should dump you and get someone who's actually good.rac said:
TyrantGuardian
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