Dr. Black Jack
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Seriously, the one-two punch of Satisfiction and Animals is 2001 via 2015, so awesome.
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Dr. Dre to Release New Album as 'Straight Outta Compton' Soundtrack
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Frank Serpico
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It's a 4/5 album, but 2001 and chronic are all time hip hop classics
So it's natural if people are disappointed
So it's natural if people are disappointed
Those records also have a combined 30 years worth of maturing, nostalgia and memories attached to them.
Dr. Black Jack
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Genocide is like Murder Ink with a better beat and less serial killer fetishization. The acapella part is super dumb and intrusive though.
Frank Serpico
Banned
The sound of hip hop changed (ask Kanye how 2001 changed him) after those albums dropped, it's not nostalgia
Okay. I listened to samples using the iTunes smartphone app. It was supremely average. I didn't find a single song that resonated positively with me. So tired of seeing guest appearances on every track of a hip-hop album. I get that this is a soundtrack to a movie, but even so, it should have been an exception since this is Dre we're talking about, and he hasn't released an album in many years.
Vanillalite
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I like it
I like the Warren G Nate Dogg album better
I like the Warren G Nate Dogg album better
Bobby Roberts
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I'm still going with One Shot One Kill, myself.
Animals would be right up there but I think Dre's verse hobbled it a little. Shoulda been all Anderson.
Laws00
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OMG YES
you might want to check back on the track listings of dre's old albums, i think he has one solo track on each one. he's a producer more than a rapper
Animals might be my fav track on the album too, but i think that verse is Dre's only major contribution to it. seems like Primo made the beat and the song was pretty much done before Dre even said he wanted it for the album (according to this article)
Bobby Roberts
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Huh. So I guess he kinda had to throw his vocals over it in order to get it on the album, otherwise he would just be buying an already finished song for his "soundtrack." It'd have been weird if the best song on his album was the one he more or less had zero to do with beyond listening to it.
Satisfiction is growing on me quickly. Basically: Genocide, then Darkside/Gone, then the half of Loose Cannons that isn't a bad radio drama, Deep Water through to Animals, and Talking to My Diary. That's the shit that works.
Money is being donated....
theignoramus
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I'm not pining for that sound at all.
Did you not listen to a single Dre beat from 2002 to 2010? That WAS a vintage Dre. I've had my fill of those looped piano notes and that BIG Single signature sound he had for a decade.
Let an artist experiment Ffs.
eyeball_kid
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I'd be real interested to know what the Detox tracks are like, since Dre said it didn't live up to his expectations. Assuming they actually exist. Was it vintage Dre but he felt it would date him as out of the loop? Or was it just straight bad? Did he consciously push Compton in a more of-the-moment direction to feel more current?
When the Beach Boys' recording sessions for their SMILE album infamously fell apart after lengthy studio noodling by Brian Wilson, the album was shelved and they put together a replacement album quickly with a couple salvaged SMILE tracks. It had some moments of brilliance, but felt rushed and uneven. That's sort of how I'm feeling about this record so far, and I wonder if something similar happened behind the scenes.
When the Beach Boys' recording sessions for their SMILE album infamously fell apart after lengthy studio noodling by Brian Wilson, the album was shelved and they put together a replacement album quickly with a couple salvaged SMILE tracks. It had some moments of brilliance, but felt rushed and uneven. That's sort of how I'm feeling about this record so far, and I wonder if something similar happened behind the scenes.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Y'all trippin. This album is dope as hell.
The "leaked" tracks that could have been on Detox where all dope as fuck. Die Hard (ft. Eminem), that song he had with Jay-Z, and KUSH. They are good stuff, but they sounded exactly how a Chronic 3 would have sounded. Dre didn't want to put the exact same shit 15 years later.
Vigilant Walrus
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I always imagined it would be like "I Need a Doctor" and "Kush" - those interim releases from 4-5 years ago. Remember?
I was shocked how rip and in shape he was. the fuck was that. and then he just disappeared again.
Hasphat'sAnts
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4th time listening. Ranking the standouts:
Deep Water > Talking to My Diary > Darkside/Gone > Animals > One Shot One Kill > Loose Cannons
Can't decided on the rest, but they're all good
Deep Water > Talking to My Diary > Darkside/Gone > Animals > One Shot One Kill > Loose Cannons
Can't decided on the rest, but they're all good
Net_Wrecker
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Nothing on this album that bangs that hard
I get it, different sounds, very busy production, Kendrick influenced, collaborative process with many cooks, more modern.....but gotdamn, man, where's my Big Egos and Xxplosive music?
Frank Serpico
Banned
Fuck, another dope track lost in the vault forever
Discotheque
Banned
>>> this whole album tbh. that shit is piff. and that hook. phew.
dre is senile for not throwing that in the album
Discotheque
Banned
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
no apple. i don't have itunes don't have a reason to have itunes.
I think it's kinda bullshit Dre put it out only on Itunes. But what should I expect they made him a billionaire club member.
edit - i've got amazon, google music, and google music store to get his album and can't. that's some bs.
God damnit Dre, that is some hard shit that I need in my veins NOW. He's totally lost his mind if he thinks that's not acceptable to release.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
something you want to buy from one store seems like a reason to go to that store
The amount of autotune is bothering... it just sounds silly.
As for the songs, I'm personally a fan of Satisfiction and Talking To My Diary. Animals is cool too, as well as Dre's verses (specially the first) on Darkside/Gone___
The Youtube video linked earlier "Dr. Dre in the studio...new track 4 Detox?" sounds amazing too.. would have loved to have some of that more 2001-ish sound in this one too.
As for the songs, I'm personally a fan of Satisfiction and Talking To My Diary. Animals is cool too, as well as Dre's verses (specially the first) on Darkside/Gone
___The Youtube video linked earlier "Dr. Dre in the studio...new track 4 Detox?" sounds amazing too.. would have loved to have some of that more 2001-ish sound in this one too.
While we're on the subject of awesome Dre tracks that never made it to an album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8nxygl-dZo
That beat was actually used in the Dr. Pepper ad Dre did a while back. I think it's pretty obvious who ghostwrote his verse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8nxygl-dZo
That beat was actually used in the Dr. Pepper ad Dre did a while back. I think it's pretty obvious who ghostwrote his verse.
mariachi507
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Yeah, the Dr. Dre I know would never release an album filled with features and guest spots. He must have caught that lazy/unoriginal bug that has been infecting hip hop the last few years. We had real MC's back in my day, they would rap whole albums at a time and would rather die than share a mic with anybody else.
Sorry for being a dick, but you're not the first poster I've seen make this remark. You should go check the tracklisting for Dre's first two albums.
mariachi507
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Sounds great, but if Dre was worried about his sound becoming formulaic or safe then I can see why he shelved it. Hopefully we'll hear that beat again in the future. I'll always throw support to an artist who wants to experiment, and I'm really digging the sound of this album after my first listen.
I believe there's already been enough stuff that's leaked or supposedly was intended for Detox for you to easily make a full album.
Just a matter of the Internet getting going on mixing/sequencing that stuff into a full album.
Hopefully Dre releases some sort of "Detox Sessions" compilation at some point instead of waiting for his estate or some historian to do it.
Just a matter of the Internet getting going on mixing/sequencing that stuff into a full album.
Hopefully Dre releases some sort of "Detox Sessions" compilation at some point instead of waiting for his estate or some historian to do it.
mangochutney
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Yeah it is formulaic for him, kind of a Still DRE Part 2, but is damn good.
I guess if you think though, Chronic has a sound, 2001 has a sound. To continue too much with a similar sound isn't probably what Dre wanted to do.
Another of the TI ghost written leaks for Detox was Topless which was pretty good too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJtyNsnaXg
Dr Dre is my favorite producer so I own anything with his name on it. I have no problem with him experimenting and growing but he has a sound that works and to basically completely abandon it for his grand finale makes little sense. Especially when it's a soundtrack about NWA. Every track I've heard from the supposed "Detox" album is hot as fuck and it's very likely that album would have been well received even if it was titled "dated" by some.
Plenty of popular mega producers like DJ Primo, Timbaland, Just Blaze, Neptunes, etc have maintained a signature sound while evolving enough to stay fresh and relevant. No reason Dr Dre couldn't have done the same for this album.
Avon Barksdale
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Is there an clean cover art for this without the Parental Advisory label on it?
Grover Cleveland
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The thing about Detox is that we're talking about something that was a decade plus in the making and had half the rap game (in terms of both rappers and producers) rumored or confirmed to be working on it.
There's probably not only multiple albums worth of material in the vault, but also a wide variety of sounds as well as Dre's thought process and philosophy about the project evolved over the years. His sound most definitely evolved over that time.
For example, no one in 1999 thought that a song like I Need A Doctor would end up as the "lead" single for Detox but it happened.
Too bad the majority of those beats have/will either end up on other people's albums or won't see the light of day
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That's not to say all that work has gone to naught. If you listen closely to Compton you'll hear bits and pieces lifted from beats we've heard on leaked reference tracks or those in the studio videos.
For example, we heard the underlying melody to Talking to My Diary in an HP commercial five years ago..
The bassline from Satisfiction got lifted from this beat from an in-studio video from four years ago
There's probably not only multiple albums worth of material in the vault, but also a wide variety of sounds as well as Dre's thought process and philosophy about the project evolved over the years. His sound most definitely evolved over that time.
For example, no one in 1999 thought that a song like I Need A Doctor would end up as the "lead" single for Detox but it happened.
Too bad the majority of those beats have/will either end up on other people's albums or won't see the light of day
until Apple opens the vault when Dre dies
That's not to say all that work has gone to naught. If you listen closely to Compton you'll hear bits and pieces lifted from beats we've heard on leaked reference tracks or those in the studio videos.
For example, we heard the underlying melody to Talking to My Diary in an HP commercial five years ago..
The bassline from Satisfiction got lifted from this beat from an in-studio video from four years ago
Kiru
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Highest I could find (1024x1024)
Used that to enhance the Labeled one with my amateur skillz (1500x1500)
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