ArchedThunder
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Vegeta was suffocating during his fight with Magetta and it lasted for quite a while.
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Dragon Ball Super |OT2| June 12: Judgment Day
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Vegeta was suffocating during his fight with Magetta and it lasted for quite a while.
SSJ Blue is definitely a stamina sapper so yes, he did have a rough time.
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Whis reveals that Monaka is simply a "total amateur" and that Beerus lied to Goku and Vegeta to help motivate them.
SO WHO IS EPISODE 40'S REVEAL?
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He did throw a Final Flash while super saiyan, that has to take a toll.
TheSpoiler
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He should have went Blue at the damn start and knocked that thing out of the way. Then he wouldn't spend a whole episode by a furnace and breathing heavy.
But, hindsight.
They trained for 3 years. It shouldn't be that hard to stay in Blue after activating it twice.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
He hasn't really won anything in any of the modern Dragon Ball stuff. And even this seems like only part of a larger story at this point.
Which is exactly what Vegeta said
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
They remembered old techniques for nostalgia purposes in those three years
TheSpoiler
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Why the fuck would they even do that
Fuck
All I can do is laugh at some of the plot points
TBF, it's not like the original DBZ or DB made sense anyway, so Super doesnt' deserve all of the hate I'm dropping on it. Just some. And I'm sure the fight was actually decent.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
God I hate this art style. The animation is good but the art looks like newgrounds
ArchedThunder
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They outright said he didn't use Blue against Magetta because he didn't want Hit to see it, he used it on Cabba because I guess it want to show him where he could go was greater than that. Also just going blue to win right away would be pointless since Vegeta wants this tournament to be a sep in becoming stronger than Beerus.
NeonZ
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Either when the first year ends, or never.
NeonZ
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(double post... I thought someone one would posted something after my last post so I didn't even bother checking)
There's clearly supposed to be some time between the moments where he can use his ability, otherwise he could just use it again like you say there. The script never mentioned that though. So, yes, it ends up problematic due to lacking that. It also seems like Hit isn't actually "stopping time", but rather "skipping time". He was clearly surprised by the way Goku threw blocks exactly where he'd attack, so I don't think he can actually see during the 0.1 seconds even if he can use that to change his position.
There's clearly supposed to be some time between the moments where he can use his ability, otherwise he could just use it again like you say there. The script never mentioned that though. So, yes, it ends up problematic due to lacking that. It also seems like Hit isn't actually "stopping time", but rather "skipping time". He was clearly surprised by the way Goku threw blocks exactly where he'd attack, so I don't think he can actually see during the 0.1 seconds even if he can use that to change his position.
Why the fuck would they even do that
Fuck
All I can do is laugh at some of the plot points
TBF, it's not like the original DBZ or DB made sense anyway, so Super doesnt' deserve all of the hate I'm dropping on it. Just some. And I'm sure the fight was actually decent.
Think of all the times characters trained for years off screen and having it not amount to much. It's not really new for the series.
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I do agree that Vegeta probably could have done more, not just in terms of stamina but in tactics to try out against him. It's almost out of character that Vegeta's plan was to take a punch so he could grab hit and then do nothing about it except get KO'd.
They would have been a lot worse off without out it. Maybe the time they put in is what allowed for Goku's new technique.
They would have been a lot worse off without out it. Maybe the time they put in is what allowed for Goku's new technique.
Huge Succeeded
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there's a reddit post that really got me, lol.
someone pointed out that Majin Buu had to be omitted from this tournament, because he'd have swept the entire thing himself.
you can't brickwall majin buu
you can't poison majin buu
you can't expect majin buu not to insult your goofy robot ass
you can't hurt majin buu with your weak little regular saiyan punches
majin buu doesn't have vital points
someone pointed out that Majin Buu had to be omitted from this tournament, because he'd have swept the entire thing himself.
you can't brickwall majin buu
you can't poison majin buu
you can't expect majin buu not to insult your goofy robot ass
you can't hurt majin buu with your weak little regular saiyan punches
majin buu doesn't have vital points
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Unless he accidentally kills someone, and he could probably be tricked into a ringout.
My bet is
still Monaka. He hasn't done anything! Even the Galaxy King was useful this episode.
Failing that, Future Bra.
Failing that, Future Bra.
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does assimilating a chocolate opponent count as killing them? lol
TheSpoiler
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Looking at it strategically, it's not even a good idea. If Hit knows, that's bad, but using up more power on Magetta is even worse overall. Hit knowing you have a super mode means fuck all if you are too tired to stay in it.
And then they blow that up with muh sayian pride. Which is par for the course with this series, and I'd be fine with that really, but I guess the issue I have is how they trained to stay in that form but then becomes an issue still.
End game besides Goku, but the training they've done helps them last. The Sayian Saga would have ended without Goku getting there on time because everyone is too weak to do anything, the Freiza Saga...same thing, with people dying far before Goku even got there, the Androids would have done a cleaner sweep, Cell would get a Frieza-level Goku to fight and he would have never known to abuse his son to get him to SSJ2, and Buu would have clean up real quick like before, well, Goku saves the day.
So even though it all turns out the same even with training, it's still important. In this case, it doesn't feel like there's an actual leap in what their power. Just learning how to use old moves again.
ArchedThunder
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Tate's style is loose because he does so much in his animation. Great animation>Perfect art.
Goku literally says in the NEP that Hit is stronger than he imagined.
Ah. Hard to tell when I have no idea what they are saying, lol. That's cool.
ArchedThunder
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Hopefully we see some Ki blasts from Hit and I REALLY hope he sticks around after the tournament.
Can wait to play as him in a game.
Can wait to play as him in a game.
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TheSlySoul
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Ok, I am curious since I feel like Beerus did not lie about Goku being the second strongest person he faced. I feel like the actual strongest guy against Beerus will show up in episode 40. Would be a fun reveal.
ArchedThunder
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Episode 20 was months ago and presumably he meant Whis was the strongest person he fought.
Glendemonium
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Wow,
Vegeta carried the team, sure Goku got a win on Botomo and Piccolo got lucky with a disqualify but revoked it in favor for Vegeta. So it's back to the normal DB formula, second strongest fighter gets some wins in and leaves the final "boss" for the main character.
Seriously though I don't know what Toriyama plans with the other characters but Piccolo deserves better than this. He had a good moment vs Frost with some surprises but I get a feeling he's not going to do much in the next arc.
Next episode looks like it's going to be amazing.
if Monaka is a fake then literally
Seriously though I don't know what Toriyama plans with the other characters but Piccolo deserves better than this. He had a good moment vs Frost with some surprises but I get a feeling he's not going to do much in the next arc.
I'm really liking Hit's fighting style, though I wonder if he's cheating since they show plenty of shots of him reaching into his pockets as if we're supposed to catch something. Could be another disqualify in the making.
Next episode looks like it's going to be amazing.
ArchedThunder
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You don't need to spoiler stuff from episodes that have aired.
I feel like Hit putting his hands in his pockets is more just showing how confident he is.
Honestly I think Piccolo is going to go back to being an non combatant like in the Buu arc, he's been left so far behind in power. Hopefully Cabba and Hit stick around and join the cast.
It was Whis.
They retconned Super's retcon of Goku being Beerus's second strongest opponent into a bluff meant to get Vegeta and Goku to train harder.
"You're my second strongest opponent [besides Whis]. Lol just kidding, Whis wasn't the opponent I was talking about, although he is stronger than me. Lol, just kidding, you're the second strongest besides Whis"
TheSlySoul
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I just hope Vegeta is not the one to save everyone from
Champa
Future Trunks though, be much stronger than Vegeta.
Piccolo/Gohan training arc, let's go.
All them Monaka believers cryin' right now.
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I really want Monaka to still be really strong despite the bluff and nobody even realizes it, not even Beerus. like the entire time Monaka's just been calmly channeling the residual energy released by previous battles through his amazing nipples
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How many episodes are left in this season? I think they could have made Vegeta's beat down a bit more impactful.
ArchedThunder
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There are no seasons.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
He's a total amateur according to Whis.
Gohan from Universe 16 is fucking great though.
Most places consider this currently to be season 3. BoG = 1, RoF = 2.
I won't be surprised if FUNi ends up putting the BoG and RoF episodes into one season release. Or following the internet's mentality but release seasons 1+2 at the same time.
That would be epic.
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