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[The Silver]

Since Hit has ZA WARUDO I hope when he gets serious he straight up turns into Dio.

Goku launches a ki blast and Hit WRYYYYYYYYYYs and drops a steamroller on him

 

[Krejlooc]

You know, logically, Chouzu would probably demolish Hit. Hit's whole special thing is that he can rewind time half a second, right? if Chouzu could freeze him telepathically for half a second before Hit realizes it, then hit would be entirely defenseless against Chouzu.

 

[dity]

You know, logically, Chouzu would probably demolish Hit. Hit's whole special thing is that he can rewind time half a second, right? if Chouzu could freeze him telepathically for half a second before Hit realizes it, then hit would be entirely defenseless against Chouzu.

That dude Guldo from the Ginyu Force would have Hit crying.

 

[Krejlooc]

That dude Guldo from the Ginyu Force would have Hit crying.

Thought about him too, but he could only freeze time as long as he held his breath. Still, if he could one-shot Hit, he'd also win.

 

[The Silver]

You know, logically, Chouzu would probably demolish Hit. Hit's whole special thing is that he can rewind time half a second, right? if Chouzu could freeze him telepathically for half a second before Hit realizes it, then hit would be entirely defenseless against Chouzu.

He doesn't rewind, he stops time for everyone but himself for 0.1 seconds

 

[dity]

He doesn't rewind, he stops time for everyone but himself for 0.1 seconds

Guldo could do it for like 30 seconds.

 

[Krejlooc]

Damn that episode was awesome. I love it when Goku showcases his fighting brilliance. That was classic dragonball.

 

[The Silver]

Guldo could do it for like 30 seconds.

However long his out of shape ass could hold his breath. Can't give Hit something that powerful, it'd be impossible to beat him.

They should bring up Guldo and reveal he was a super special mutant among time leapers.

 

[dity]

However long his out of shape ass could hold his breath. Can't give Hit something that powerful, it'd be impossible to beat him.

They should bring up Guldo and reveal he was a super special mutant among time leapers.

Maybe they're of the same race, and Guldo is the Tien of Hit's race?

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Whis said he was surprised someone other than himself can manipulate time. Unless this is a translation error is this implying Vados cannot

 

[Poyunch]

Whis said he was surprised someone other than himself can manipulate time. Unless this is a translation error is this implying Vados cannot

I just assumed he meant people not like Whis. Like whatever race of beings Whis and Vados are.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

People need to stop giving Vegeta a hard time here. He gave Goku the information he needed to beat Hit.

Vegeta managed to grab onto Hit just after his strike meaning he can't react after he's made his initial move. It looks like Jaco and that squid guy tell Goku how they think its working and that's how Goku formulates his strategy.

Someone had to be beaten by Hit so the next fighter could learn how to beat Hit. It just so happens a tired Vegeta was Hit's opponent.

I just hope they keep this theme going for the rest of Hit's fights. I don't want it to devolve into normal combat.

Next week is gonna be soooo good.

Can't wait!

Jaco and the squid guy tell Goku that Hit can stop time for 0.1 seconds. They didn't know how to counter it.

I do agree though. Goku probably would have lost if he went first. But plot and all that. Vegeta had a good run anyway.

He's the galactic king damn it

 

[Dynasty]

The Galactic King and Jaco couldn't arrest Hit anyway since it is out of there jurisdiction since they are currently in a space between universes so the laws of U6/U7 don't really apply and so they have no authority.

 

[Slaythe]

It's funny to think that if they had hired Hit, he could have one shot Freezer, Cell, Buu etc...

I wonder if Hit has a u7 equivalent.

 

[Turin]

Wonder how long Hit's gonna stick around.

what the fuck

 

[The Adder]

It's funny to think that if they had hired Hit, he could have one shot Freezer, Cell, Buu etc...

I wonder if Hit has a u7 equivalent.

Guldo. U7 Hit is Guldo.

 

[Slaythe]

Guldo. U7 Hit is Guldo.

Can you imagine how unstoppable a Guildo / Carrot bunny team up would be ?

Literally nothing could stand in their way. Guildo stops time, gets carrot bunny to touch the guy, eat him, done.

 

[ElFly]

Guldo and Chaotzu just paralyze their opponents you guys.

Could it just be the

Spoiler

dragon getting wished with the Super Dragon Balls

showing up?

Could be too.

 

[ant1532]

YOOOO WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ANIMATION

WHAT THE HECK OMG

SO EFFING GOOD

 

[Reset]

Haha Vegeta continues to job. Enjoyed this episode, it was a lot better than the other shitty fights.

Kinda disappointing that how after like seven fights there were only two decent ones (Piccolo vs NotFrieza [best fight in the show] and Hit vs Vegeta) while the rest are probably the worst out of the entire Dragonball series. :/

 

[A Pretty Panda]

continues to job.

What was he doing the last three fights?

 

[Havel]

I wonder if Relativity exists in Dragon Ball.

 

[ant1532]

can't believe the animation quality bump.

anyone know why this jump in quality happened???

what an episode

 

[ElFly]

What was he doing the last three fights?

Holding back massively against underpowered opponents?

 

[Real Hero]

Haha Vegeta continues to job. Enjoyed this episode, it was a lot better than the other shitty fights.

Kinda disappointing that how after like seven fights there were only two decent ones (Piccolo vs NotFrieza [best fight in the show] and Hit vs Vegeta) while the rest are probably the worst out of the entire Dragonball series. :/

Cabbe vs Vegeta was the best tournament fight so far though

 

[A Pretty Panda]

can't believe the animation quality bump.

anyone know why this jump in quality happened???

what an episode

Episodes that matter will get more effort put in to them I'm guessing

 

[ElFly]

Episodes that matter will get more effort put in to them I'm guessing

I wonder if they upped the budget finally....or if the animation budget iwll have to be balanced so we get some really badly animated filler episodes later.

 

[JeremyEtcetera]

Haha Vegeta continues to job. Enjoyed this episode, it was a lot better than the other shitty fights.

Kinda disappointing that how after like seven fights there were only two decent ones (Piccolo vs NotFrieza [best fight in the show] and Hit vs Vegeta) while the rest are probably the worst out of the entire Dragonball series. :/

I don't think people get the meaning of jobbing. Vegeta had 3 wins back to back and carried the team. He loses one and is immediately jobber status? That's not how that works. The only person who legit jobbed was Piccolo, as he wasted everyone's time. Piccolo fans had the rug pulled up from under them.

 

[Zalman]

can't believe the animation quality bump.

anyone know why this jump in quality happened???

what an episode

They realized retelling the two movies was a mistake.

 

[ElFly]

I don't think people get the meaning of jobbing. Vegeta had 3 wins back to back and carried the team. He loses one and is immediately jobber status? That's not how that works. The only person who legit jobbed was Piccolo, as he wasted everyone's time. Piccolo fans had the rug pulled up from under them.

Jobbing in fiction generally means being defeated just to show how strong their opponents are. Frost, Magetta and Cabbe were not really on the level of Vegeta and he could easily have roflstomped them.

But once he faces someone on his level, Vegeta just folds and doesn't even get a punch in. So we and Goku are startled at how strong Hit actually is.

So yeah, Vegeta definitely jobbed there.

 

[Reset]

I don't think people get the meaning of jobbing. Vegeta had 3 wins back to back and carried the team. He loses one and is immediately jobber status? That's not how that works. The only person who legit jobbed was Piccolo, as he wasted everyone's time. Piccolo fans had the rug pulled up from under them.

Nah, jobbing is to set up and make your opponent look strong. He beat three scrubs (even Piccolo was doing fine against NotFrieza until he cheated) to make himself look decent, but then got ass whooped by Hit to make him look like a legitimate threat.
He did the same shit in the Android saga when he beat Android 19 (Even Goku was down fine against him until he got sick), and then got his ass beat against Android 18.
Vegeta's role in the show is to job.

 

[Kyzer]

I think Vegeta not being able to counter a time travel technique that even Beerus didnt recognize is hardly enough for him to have gotten jobbed.

 

[Skii]

Jobbing in fiction generally means being defeated just to show how strong their opponents are. Frost, Magetta and Cabbe were not really on the level of Vegeta and he could easily have roflstomped them.

But once he faces someone on his level, Vegeta just folds and doesn't even get a punch in. So we and Goku are startled at how strong Hit actually is.

So yeah, Vegeta definitely jobbed there.

So Goku jobbed against Frost then?

 

[Slaythe]

They don't get "better animation on important episode". That doesn't work like that in japan, there has been exceptions, but it's not at all what's happening right now.

And the show's budget is the same.

The only thing that might have changed, is that they have a better rotation and are spreading the talents to fix the shit drawings of their philipinos staff better.

I think they also got two directors now, to supervise the whole thing.

So Goku jobbed against Frost then?

He would have if that wasn't cheating.

It was, so no, Goku didn't job. Vegeta is the definition of jobbing in this episode though.

"Oh wow he beat 3 guys that sucked monkey balls, and then he lost to the one powerful guy without even landing a single hit on him..." yeah that's jobbing.

He is Jobeta, prince of Jobbers. DWI

 

[brinstar]

Damn, this episode was great. More of that, please.

 

[dity]

Jobbing in fiction generally means being defeated just to show how strong their opponents are. Frost, Magetta and Cabbe were not really on the level of Vegeta and he could easily have roflstomped them.

But once he faces someone on his level, Vegeta just folds and doesn't even get a punch in. So we and Goku are startled at how strong Hit actually is.

So yeah, Vegeta definitely jobbed there.

It just sounds like a word people use because they always expect the heroes to win. Everyone technically is a jobber except for the one who beats the opponent. Goku jobbed against Golden Frieza and Frost.

It's a dumb term I've literally only heard in this thread in my entire life.

 

[NeonZ]

They don't get "better animation on important episode". That doesn't work like that in japan, there has been exceptions, but it's not at all what's happening right now.

They generally can work a schedule that ensures that important episodes will have better schedule, animators or resources though. Super itself clearly has shown that before - episodes 13 and 14, alongside 27, were significantly better animated than other episodes before and after them.

 

[Skii]

It just sounds like a word people use because they always expect the heroes to win. Everyone technically is a jobber except for the one who beats the opponent. Goku jobbed against Golden Frieza and Frost.

It's a dumb term I've literally only heard in this thread in my entire life.

Same. It's just a nonsense term that devolves any conversation on here to fanboy drivel.

 

[Host Samurai]

Even if Guldo could freeze Hit, he wouldn't even have the power to even scratch him with an all out attack.

Magetta was the coolest fighter in U6. His fight with Vegeta was the best imo. Really liked how different he was. Really had that early Dragonball vibe going on, actually most of this Tournment besides Frost & Cabba have a big OG Dragonball feel with teqniques>>>power

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Same. It's just a nonsense term that devolves any conversation on here to fanboy drivel.

 

[dity]

The term "jobbing" sounds like something you'd hear on that shite body building forum.

Even if Guldo could freeze Hit, he wouldn't even have the power to even scratch him with an all out attack.

Even Goku fell prey to a gun ;D

 

[Village]

It just sounds like a word people use because they always expect the heroes to win. Everyone technically is a jobber except for the one who beats the opponent. Goku jobbed against Golden Frieza and Frost.

It's a dumb term I've literally only heard in this thread in my entire life.

Its a wrestling term

When your favorite wrestler is fighting, a litterally who. That guy was called a jobber, a lot of wrestlers started out that way. It has evovled to mean, just loosing unconviningly in more media than wrestling. Or to some just loosing in general.

 

[ElFly]

It just sounds like a word people use because they always expect the heroes to win. Everyone technically is a jobber except for the one who beats the opponent. Goku jobbed against Golden Frieza and Frost.

It's a dumb term I've literally only heard in this thread in my entire life.

You'd heard it more in other circles; Wolverine is a typical jobber since he a lot of the time can be safely thrashed to show a new villain is powerful.

In RoF Goku did ok against Freeza, that wasn't a job.

 

[Slaythe]

They generally can work a schedule that ensures that important episodes will have better schedule, animators or resources though. Super itself clearly has shown that before - episodes 13 and 14, alongside 27, were significantly better animated than other episodes before and after them.

No.

Episode 14 had a few decent sequences made by a freelancer, the rest of the episode looked like shit.

Episode 27 looked average, had only 4 seconds worth of action.
And what about episodes 24 25 and 26 ? You don't think Goku vs Freeza looking literally worse than dog shit is proof that they are NOT giving episodes budget depending on what's in it ?

And episode 4 had one of the best animator and that was about pilaf... Or like Vegeta cooking in episode 16.

What about the first fight of the tournament, Goku vs botamo that ended up being the worst fight ?

Just no dude.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Its a wrestling term

When your favorite wrestler is fighting, a litterally who. That guy was called a jobber, a lot of wrestlers started out that way. It has evovled to mean, just loosing unconviningly in more media than wrestling. Or to some just loosing in general.

Which shouldn't be the case

It's almost like applying wrestling terms to other things is dumb

 

[Skii]

I dont get this avatar quote lol

You'd heard it more in other circles; Wolverine is a typical jobber since he a lot of the time can be safely thrashed to show a new villain is powerful.

In RoF Goku did ok against Freeza, that wasn't a job.

Why wasn't it? SSB Goku was destroyed by Frieza to show how powerful his gold form was.

 

[Lord Virgin]

Love Goku, def. reminded me of DragonBall Goku in this episode. Champa's reaction lol.

 

[Village]

Which shouldn't be the case

It's almost like applying wrestling terms to other things is dumb

I think the term jobbing has its place, i like in referring to an unconvincing loss.

I think the issue is people who over use terms. And even more so , people who only value characters by W/L ratio's needing a way to assert themselves.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

He would have if that wasn't cheating.

This is a dumb thing for the show to say anyway. Frost beat goku using a hidden needle with something that dulls senses, i.e. a piece of scientific technology, which is deemed cheating in the same tournament where a full on robot is an entrant.

 

[dity]

Its a wrestling term

When your favorite wrestler is fighting, a litterally who. That guy was called a jobber, a lot of wrestlers started out that way. It has evovled to mean, just loosing unconviningly in more media than wrestling. Or to some just loosing in general.

It's always going to seem unconvincing if you think the good guys should always win. Then the show would be crazy boring. I mean, it's almost as if the story is biased toward showing what the heroes do and you're SUPPOSED to be surprised when they lose after all their preparation.