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[Gaiff]

I think we watched different Toryama shows.

I think you haven't watched it at all because there's nothing new or divergent about this design. The stickman with little muscle mass design has been a thing since 2013 with BOG and the haircut is in the same vein as Android 16 or Uub, and it's far from being his most ridiculous one.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Worst main character design ever. Possibly in any jrpg ever. Impressive!

I'll be throwing whatever dlc costume over him immediately.

The Tales of series is calling

 

[March Climber]

they did the same thing when DQ9 was announced as an action game, but feared fans would dislike the changes and reverted

lame

On a side note from all of these posts about aesthetic, pronouns, and vibes…

If this game comes out and it is just a basic sequel with typical turn based DQ gameplay and a milquetoast story, I'm out.

At least out for a long while until I buy it on a deep sale a decade or so later. If it happens I'll just continue looking more forward to the spinoff DQ titles because they actually take chances.

 

[blacktout]

They also said they are using characters Toriyama designed before passing for the now scrapped version of DQXII, so, actually those desings are the ONE THING that retain what Toriyama did for that project.

This makes sense, because the protagonist's design feels like a holdover from a game with a darker tone.

I'm not glad that we're going to have to wait god knows how long for this to release, but, honestly, I think they made a smart move by pivoting away from the "gritty adult Dragon Quest" angle. I think it would have deviated too far from the whimsy and wonder that are at the core of the DQ experience.

This seems much more like what I want from a DQ game. Hopefully I will still be alive when it releases.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Gooninquest XII: Echos of an Elusive Goon

 

[MagiusNecros]

On a side note from all of these posts about aesthetic, pronouns, and vibes…

If this game comes out and it is just a basic sequel with typical turn based DQ gameplay and a milquetoast story, I'm out.

At least out for a long while until I buy it on a deep sale a decade or so later. If it happens I'll just continue looking more forward to the spinoff DQ titles because they actually take chances.

Yeah I agree. If Flames of Fate was going to up the ante and Beyond Dreams is just playing it safe then waiting 12+ years for more of the same makes it an easy skip. Especially after all their talk of how a lot of fans especially in Japan have to wait years in between releases compared how it used to be.

 

[STARSBarry]

its literally like the end result of this meme after starting with Toriyama's style.

Dude died in 2024, they didnt have to kill his fucking legacy too.

 

[lachesis]

I don't mind sticking to the kiddy storyline. We have a plenty of dark games to begin with.. and I was kinda worried to see too drastic change... that I appreciated the "constant" nature of the series.

At the same time, since they scrapped it... I guess we'll have to wait years for XII. Same goes to Persona 6. It's been 10 years since Persona 5...

 

[Spukc]

I told ya Square Enix is cocked. The protagonist looks like he was designed by the DEI departement.

yum yum we love slop

ngl who would't want to fuck this lizard boy
furries be eating well

 

[Danjin44]

Nothing. Just an ugly main character. Only thing interesting is the MC and the Lizardman are the same character. Which you can tell by the sword they use.

I myself not the biggest fan of MC's design but I don't know how the hell that's makes it "woke"?

People sure love to throw that word regardless it actually make sense or not.

 

[GravityMan]

The character designs are a step down from the ones in Dragon Quest 8 and 11, but I don't think they're all that bad. The main protagonist looks like a pretty standard-fare JRPG character.

The environments look great. Hopefully they decided to restart development years ago, so that we don't have to wait until like 2030.

 

[Minsc]

The character design is fine aside from the tired eyes. What the fuck are some of y'all high on?

Certainly a step up from this boring shit.

Not the best, no, but better than this, fit the game world fine IMO. NPCs were the highlight for DQ11, hard to really do a voiceless protag with no lines of dialog that great.

DQ11 was so good that even if this is care bears the game, I'd probably still try it.

 

[peish]

for reference, this was the old original teaser

 

[Metnut]

I'm losing the plot here…..what's woke about!?

Nothing at all. People here try and interject politics into everything. Sad people.

 

[March Climber]

Yeah I agree. If Flames of Fate was going to up the ante and Beyond Dreams is just playing it safe then waiting 12+ years for more of the same makes it an easy skip. Especially after all the their talk of how a lot of fans especially in Japan have to wait years in between releases compared how it used to be.

It would be like James Bond but if Goldeneye, TWINE, Casino Royale, and Skyfall never happened and they rolled out an older Connery to do the same exact stuff in the 90s and 2000s.

Meanwhile during that same time across the street, Tom Cruise is jumping out of vehicles and off of buildings in fun Mission Impossible movies and providing us cockpit/pilot view angles Topgun 2. Insert whatever JRPG people think Tom Cruise represents in this analogy.

 

[Danjin44]

Nothing at all. People here try and interject politics into everything. Sad people.

At this point its gone beyond stupid.

For fuck sake people just say you dont like the design, WTF "woke" has anything to do with this!?

 

[John Bilbo]

for reference, this was the old original teaser

Totally different in tone. End of times

 

[Germuso]

 

[Judge Magister]

"A step up from XI"

 

[Sethbacca]

Nothing at all. People here try and interject politics into everything. Sad people.

Since political conversations don't belong here, any conversations related to woke are inherently political and should be talked about over in off topic instead of infecting every single thread here with stupidity. But that's never gonna happen.

 

[Comandr]

They saw the reception to FFXVI and smashed the reset button.

I genuinely believe this is probably the case. DQ12 was supposed to be a much darker, more mature entry. It would have been a first for the series to go in that direction. There were also a lot of rumors that it was going to be action oriented.

Then FF16 bombed and has been essentially forgotten about, which is arguably the worst outcome.

SE has been largely experimental lately with its main offerings and I think they got cold feet after recent reception and went back to a more traditional style like DQ11, which was received very well.

 

[peish]

"A step up from XI"

woke temu toriyama art.

 

[Hypereides]

I was about to comment if its just me or are they really doing a disservice to Toriyama's original artstyle, but I guess that's already been picked upon.

This looks like they're trying to incorporate Pixar's visual presentation in some way.

 

[Lokaum D+]

yum yum we love slop

ngl who would't want to fuck this lizard boy
furries be eating well

This is real or AI ? Pls tell its AI

 

[yogaflame]

Since political conversations don't belong here, any conversations related to woke are inherently political and should be talked about over in off topic instead of infecting every single thread here with stupidity. But that's never gonna happen.

Attacking critics and gaslighting is the way for the leftist to normalize what is evil and sick especially in gaming. This trend is of dei and woke force to gamers throat is not normal. Its not about politics but opinion on the game itself.

 

[March Climber]

Since political conversations don't belong here, any conversations related to woke are inherently political and should be talked about over in off topic instead of infecting every single thread here with stupidity. But that's never gonna happen.

I remember when 4chan had kind of an adjacent issue with /v/ years ago and they ended up having to split things up over time into 4 other categories for video games, so that each community wouldn't annoy each other to death due to astroturfing the entire first/front page of /v/.

I also support a new section of this forum to contain this, but like you said I don't think either option will happen, so we just have to deal with seeing it in nearly every thread, potentially derailing most threads.

 

[Sethbacca]

Attacking critics and gaslighting is the way for the leftist to normalize what is evil and sick especially in gaming. This trend is of dei and woke force to gamers throat is not normal. Its not about politics but opinion on the game itself.

Dude, you just drop word salad in every post. It's the same shit over and over and over again. You don't get to define how everyone else views the world. Hope this helps.

 

[yogaflame]

Dude, you just drop word salad in every post. It's the same shit over and over and over again. You don't get to define how everyone else views the world. Hope this helps.

Same to you, you dont get to define how everyone else views the world. Hope this helps.

 

[Sethbacca]

Same to you, you dont get to define how everyone else views the world. Hope this helps.

Yeah but i don't spend all my time whining about it 200 times a day in message boards. That's the primary difference. Have your opinions, but just realize this shit has so ridiculously jumped the shark that the whining is fucking retarded at this point. It's just impotent screaming into the void.

 

[DeVeAn]

The character design is fine aside from the tired eyes. What the fuck are some of y'all high on?

Certainly a step up from this boring shit.

He looks like future Trunks which people love.

 

[yogaflame]

Yeah but i don't spend all my time whining about it 200 times a day in message boards. That's the primary difference. Have your opinions, but just realize this shit has so ridiculously jumped the shark that the whining is fucking retarded at this point. It's just impotent screaming into the void.

 

[The_hunter]

I don't think Toriyama drew that yikes! Fuck man I am disappointed.

I think Toyotarou drew that.

But the coloring style is very Toriyama, it's throwing me off.

 

[Fbh]

I'm losing the plot here…..what's woke about!?

The subtitles in the video used the word "they" which sent some of the snowflakes around here into their usual downspiral.

The character design is fine aside from the tired eyes. What the fuck are some of y'all high on?

Certainly a step up from this boring shit.

Nah, fake Trunks looks way better than this MC. The dumb hair cut and stoner eyes (which are also too far apart) in the new one look ridiculous.
Though honestly at this point I don't get why DQ doesn't just let people make their own character. This isn't like The Witcher, Tales of or FF where you have an actual main character, it's always a mute dude with no personality because they want it to be a blank self insert for the player....so let me make my own character!! (Atlus should do the same with persona IMO).

It's anime style too so you don't even need some super complex character creator. Just give me a decent amount of eyes and hair options.

 

[Spukc]

This is real or AI ? Pls tell its AI

lube up son

 

[Minsc]

Even fake trunks as a fish looks better than this.

The MC for 12 looks like a terrible version of Erik from 11, with shaven sideburns and no blue hair, and stoned out of their mind.

And depressed.

 

[Wilhelm_85]

Damn... Oh well, if they didn't believe in the original version, then probably best to not release it.

With that said, I'm not a fan of that protagonist.

 

[Lokaum D+]

lube up son

Yeah, it seens that DQVIII ll be their last good DQ game

 

[MooMilk2929]

Wouldn't be suprised if they did this to iplement AI.

 

[Danjin44]

subtitles in the video used the word "they" which sent some of the snowflakes around here into their usual downspiral.

Overreaction over most pretties nonsense.

 

[Fake]

"A step up from XI"

DQ11 have a crew with great character designs, either people smoke crack or never played DQ11.

 

[Gaiff]

He looks like future Trunks which people love.

He looks like the new stickman design of Future Trunks, not the classic one.

Left, great. Right, sucks. And he has the haircut from the one post-Cell training.

New Future Trunks looks like junk, old one looks badass.

 

[uncreativename]

Are we calling this game woke now because of one translated word? That's a bit of a stretch, c'mon. It's possible to say "their" about someone without meaning that they're actually a they/them retard.

Also I'm not the biggest fan of the character's look either, but Horii did say he's troubled by dreams, so him looking like he hasn't slept in weeks actually fits the character then.

 

[MagiusNecros]

DQXI MC reminded me more of Android 17 but ok.

 

[Hyet]

I think Toyotarou drew that.

But the coloring style is very Toriyama, it's throwing me off.

Hey, I get you, I don't like It either. But It has been officially confirmed it's Toriyama's artwork.

 

[Hector Hall]

I dunno man, 10 years waiting and they show something only marginally better that XI and still years to come?

I can understand a AAA cinematic game taking 5 years plus to launch, but this is ridiculous.

Next one will be Persona 6 releasing in 2029 with about the same structure as P3/5 and slightly improved graphics.

 

[Fake]

DQXI designs are top. People have the right to complain.

You guys defend this awful protagonist are out of your fucking minds.

If you don't have standarts, thats totally fine. Just don't complain about people expectations.

 

[TintoConCasera]

officially confirmed

They could be lying you know. The design is of such a lower quality compared to other DQ protagonitst that I would be surprised if it was Toriyama or, if it's really his design, if he was giving any kind of fuck while designing it.

I think what's fucked up is the eyes, they look really weird on all characters. Plus the MC comes as unispired and with some weird color decisions, but that's more of a subjective thing.

 

[Signalis]

Looks like he is on crack, or should I not be a bigot and say. It looks like "they" are on crack.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Those are some fucking UGLY ass characters. Wtf was that? Honestly.

Like MMO style shit. Like they look so generic.

 

[uncreativename]

H Hector Hall P3 and 5 are massively different from each other, though. The dungeons in P5 are a massive upgrade over Tartarus imo, and the graphics are way better in general too.
I still love P3 and it's got a better story, but yeah