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[Hollywood Hitman]

FIXED!!! GOTY lol.

It is the eyes.

Yea the eyes would Change everything. Yea I think he got loser liberal im a victim kinda eyes, looks like a lazy loser... The fix of eyes makes him look masculine and ready for battle.

 

[Sojiro]

fixed

I would honestly prefer this by a country mile. I have no issues with the hair, but it's the derpy meth face that bothers me. I get that he is probably supposed to have bags under his eyes due to the dreams aspect, but I do not care for how he looks, I much prefer his dragon form. The rest of the characters I like, it's only the MC.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I agree with Player Essence's OJ and think the original idea for the game was straying too far away from traditional turn-based RPGs and realized after the FFXVI debacle it was time to start fresh.

If so, good call.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

Yea the eyes would Change everything. Yea I think he got loser liberal im a victim kinda eyes, looks like a lazy loser... The fix of eyes makes him look masculine and ready for battle.

The female doesn't look horrible,but kinda safe. The MC needs a revamp though. The game is still years away, so hopefully they change it for the better.

 

[DeVeAn]

The altered pic reminds me of the protagonist from DQ Heroes part 1. Sequel had an ugly protagonist.

 

[uncreativename]

I can't imagine he's gonna look so tired the entire game? When he gets his shit together and becomes a badass hero I hope he does look like that ^

 

[StereoVsn]

Neogaf: "Dragon Quest 12 is gay. They ruined it!"

Meanwhile in DQ 11:

Just kidding. I somewhat agree with the criticisms.

He was actually a really well done character though.

 

[TintoConCasera]

He was actually a really well done character though.

Hell yeah. He went from kinda annoying to one hell of a dude by the end of the game. His character arc is great.

 

[Stafford]

The game looks fantastic but it was so disappointing that its likely still years away.
DQXI came out in 2017.
Ugh.
The hell is wrong with Square these days?!?
At least Elliot is coming soon.

But based on the demo it's overly easy and has an insanely annoying, chatty partner constantly on screen. Horrible.

 

[PeteBull]

Yups, wanted to post that one right away, srsly do those devs really hate money

 

[Gambit2483]

Yeah, anyone saying the DQXII meth-head alongside the lizard are a step up from iconic XI characters needs a trip to their eye doctor.

Eye doctor? More like head doctor.

 

[Hyet]

They could be lying you know

Well, ok. Go ahead and prove they're lying.

 

[Boss Mog]

How can the charcaters look so terrible, this can't be real.

 

[nial]

fidelity is nice, but oof at those character designs. day 1 for PS6, tho

 

[Nocty]

them Japanese motherfuckers better not fuck up my Dragon quest

 

[Sept Terrion Of Nothing]

These developers/producers...

 

[Madflavor]

The fact that he looks unconventional is what makes me think there's a chance for things to get dark.

The reason people think his haircut is too modern is because his sides are semi-faded. Remove those and it's a basic 80s mohawk with a touch of anime flair in the front.

I don't mind the design. The fact that he looks sleep deprived is probably intentional given the theme here.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

The Zoomer side-shave broccoli haircut + the timid, defeated posture/expression are so bad.

But even if you fixed that, it'd only be serviceable.

 

[Xellos]

I was kind of looking forward to the other version; oh well.

MC looking like he's running on 3 hours of sleep probably ties into the story.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Well, ok. Go ahead and prove they're lying.

I can't, just like you can't prove they aren't.

 

[GateofD]

if people wanted the action rpg thing, they already have like 2-3 of those DQ Musou games

 

[Dr. Suchong]

When fans say they want a "New" Dragon Quest game, they really want "Old" Dragon Quest.
I would of liked to have seen what the game was like before it was scrapped/rebooted.
I find Dragon Quest just a little bit too old school for my tastes, but I understand their hesitance in breaking the mold.
Looks great regardless

 

[Jsisto]

Yeah I aint gonna be running around as that fucking dope feind for 120+ hours. They better fix that godawful face.

 

[uncreativename]

if people wanted the action rpg thing, they already have like 2-3 of those DQ Musou games

It's a shame that Heroes 2 is so expensive. I feel like Square Enix just forgot that it exists. it pretty much never goes on sale either.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

them Japanese motherfuckers better not fuck up my Dragon quest

They were gonna fuck it up but they rebooted it to unfuck it up. It's on the right track. Trust.

 

[TheLikou]

Koiichi Sugiyama is still in the OST, sadly. The guy couldn't care less about the DQ games sound quality or even give the game more than 10 tracks. They will reuse his songs, but hopefully is just an transition and they'll have new tracks made by a new composer.

 

[kruis]

fixed

SOOOOO much better. AI slop is better than the real thing.

 

[uncreativename]

Koiichi Sugiyama is still in the OST, sadly. The guy couldn't care less about the DQ games sound quality or even give the game more than 10 tracks.

Yeah he's been slacking off for the past few years for some reason

 

[KaiserCrab]

Hell yeah. He went from kinda annoying to one hell of a dude by the end of the game. His character arc is great.

I'm afraid about opening a can of worms here, but... I think that he's a great example of 'woke' character done right. His whole plot about "my dad is mad at me because I was destined to be a knight but I chose to become a circus artist" is obviously an euphemism for "I'm ultra-gay and my father doesn't accept that I come out because that would be seen as shameful for a knight"

 

[Killer8]

Square Enix can't resist the allure of paid DLC, the DQVIII hero skin they'll sell you for $10 will fix this.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Koiichi Sugiyama is still in the OST, sadly. The guy couldn't care less about the DQ games sound quality or even give the game more than 10 tracks. They will reuse his songs, but hopefully is just an transition and they'll have new tracks made by a new composer.

Isnt he dead? God damn it, a retarded looking characters and shit mid(orchestred) music, game keeps getting better.

 

[TheLikou]

Yeah he's been slacking off for the past few years for some reason

I know he is dead, that's the point of me questioning them for still using his tracks.

 

[Fbh]

I hope they at least confirm this will be a proper full release and they won't pull another Atlus with another enhanced edition a couple of years later.

They were gonna fuck it up but they rebooted it to unfuck it up. It's on the right track. Trust.

Yeah, other than the terrible character designs this looks like a safe and samey DQ, so I don't know why some people are so worried.
It's the original version that was promising to change up the formula, this clearly looks like they backed down from that idea and went for something more traditional.

You could have told me these environments are UE5 remakes of the DQ11 maps and I would have belived you.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I'm afraid about opening a can of worms here, but... I think that he's a great example of 'woke' character done right. His whole plot about "my dad is mad at me because I was destined to be a knight but I chose to become a circus artist" is obviously an euphemism for "I'm ultra-gay and my father doesn't accept that I come out because that would be seen as shameful for a knight"

Sorry man but I have to disagree lol.

His whole arc (imo) is being a useless fuck (at least by his parent standars) and then proving everyone's wrong and getting a ton of self-steem when he realizes he's the only one capable of saving the day by making the world a better place with his happiness parade after the world has gone to shit.

All that stuff is super flamboyant, but I wouldn't necessarily equate that to him being super gay lel. I felt it was more of a "everyone has some kind of strength even if they aren't able to see it" kinda thing.

 

[jshackles]

It's a shame that Heroes 2 is so expensive. I feel like Square Enix just forgot that it exists. it pretty much never goes on sale either.

It's actually Koei's fault these never get discounted. Shame because they're both quite good.

EDIT: I think the root cause of the problem is Japanese physical media. Switch copies of the two pack still sell in Japan for full price, I even saw used copies over MSRP on several occasions. People in Japan keep buying it, and I assume Koei Techmo execs just assume everyone in the world is willing to pay full retail for these.

 

[uncreativename]

Sylvando's just a really well-written and designed character. He's allowed to have flaws and he's got a sense of humour, even about himself, he belongs in that world, he's got a great story, everyone can agree that he's cool and fun, he's not preaching at you about some real world issues or an insert for how sad the game developer is.

 

[Gambit2483]

How can the charcaters look so terrible, this can't be real.

Two words.

Western "influences".

Two more words.

"Modern audience".

 

[TintoConCasera]

he's not preaching at you about some real world issues or an insert for how sad the game developer is

Yeah imo that's the main point when deciding if something's woke or not, but since it's a neologism everyone has a different idea of what it means.

 

[L*][*N*K]

 

[Alexios]

Characters look weird, especially the lizard dude which seems to use generic human mocap. Game looks nice, not that far beyond XI except for distant lod/clarity and something like 1000x the foliage density (which had been downgraded for S version already but wasn't nearly as dense prior either).

Maybe they'll let us customize the mc like in IX. If the protagonist is gonna be mute like in XI/most of the games where you at most you choose an occasional yes/no reply I don't get why they don't let us do that again.

Wasn't IX restarted after being a scrapped ARPG, they keep doing this? Glad DQ is not yet ruined like FF trying to turn into DMC/KH though.

Tbh "as we know it" is funny, we didn't know shit except for the title really.

 

[Justinus]

Maybe they should restart from scratch...again.

 

[Diddy X]

Maybe they should restart from scratch...again.

I get that they were obligated to show something for the anniversary, but the footage looks pretty weak. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was thrown together in a couple of days.
They're saying they scrapped the original project and started over… and this is what they came up with instead? It makes no sense.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I mean the actual world tho looks insane, let's talk about that for a second... I mean that is just calling to be explored

Despite some of the character flaws I want to step back and appreciate that games aren't afraid to use color anymore, that 2000s era still stings for how everything was brown and Grey, just a lack of color and the world here looks top notch.

They got time to make changes, if the dude is just tired and it's part of the story and he eventually becomes more energized and looks better than whatever, but not my first choice of how to make the character but if that's the story it's the story.

I do tho hate with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns when they don't say hero

 

[semiconscious]

Can we have one thread, just fucking one without woke whining. JFC.

nope. the parrots are restless...

 

[Meicyn]

Sorry man but I have to disagree lol.

His whole arc (imo) is being a useless fuck (at least by his parent standars) and then proving everyone's wrong and getting a ton of self-steem when he realizes he's the only one capable of saving the day by making the world a better place with his happiness parade after the world has gone to shit.

All that stuff is super flamboyant, but I wouldn't necessarily equate that to him being super gay lel. I felt it was more of a "everyone has some kind of strength even if they aren't able to see it" kinda thing.

It's both column A and column B. You're covering the verbatim arc while his covers the subtext. It's the same kind of subtext that is featured in say, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance where the main theme of the story revolves around discrimination, featuring a lead character who has a close relationship that is "beyond friendship" with an effeminate mage. There's a reason Ike is a favorite in certain communities.

I mean, you yourself mentioned the happiness parade. Gay was historically a synonym for "happy". Happiness parade. A gay parade. Hmm.

 

[NormalGamer]

But based on the demo it's overly easy and has an insanely annoying, chatty partner constantly on screen. Horrible.

It gets a bit harder as you go on (I also did play on hard) but yeah the partner never stops

 

[Stafford]

It gets a bit harder as you go on (I also did play on hard) but yeah the partner never stops

It's crazy that none of these devs thought....hmm, this is starting to get annoying, let's lower this down quite a bit.

I think the one that ticks me off the most is when she says "now" when you charge your blade and about to let loose. Jesus Christ, bitch STFU. 🫪

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I think almost all series fans will be happy with the change since the original XII was being sold as a gritty action game.

 

[Gaiff]

fixed

This is how Toriyama would have designed him before. I don't like his newer art style at all. He stopped drawing muscles and giving his characters dynamic poses.

 

[jshackles]

He stopped drawing muscles and giving his characters dynamic poses.

To be fair, he's stopped drawing completely now