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Dragon's Dogma SPOILER THREAD | Once Upon a Pawn

Did you guys see all the endings? You could get one if you die to the Seneschal, another for choosing to walk away from him when he gives you the choice. I missed the one for sacrificing your love interest, though. The two that I did see are worth watching and I think at least one of them is canon, it should explain how the game begins :o
 
Fuck man. Amazing game overall. I'm kinda sad to have it end.. Showing the pawns I used in the final credits is almost making me shed a tear lol.

But yeah, holy shit at the story these writers came up with. Some craaazy shit.
Gonna wait a couple months or something, but I am gonna go through NG+ to make the choices I didn't make the first time around.

GOTY so far, for me.

edit: Oh cool, didn't know 8-4 worked on the localization.
 
Speaking of canon, do you guys think there is a canon pairing for the Arisen?

I never did the Selene quests my first playthrough, so I think I missed out on some really interesting stuff with her. I read that she's basically like your pawn is at the end of the game, having inhabited her master's body. Does she say this during a quest or at the very end if you romance her?
 
Speaking of canon, do you guys think there is a canon pairing for the Arisen?

I never did the Selene quests my first playthrough, so I think I missed out on some really interesting stuff with her. I read that she's basically like your pawn is at the end of the game, having inhabited her master's body. Does she say this during a quest or at the very end if you romance her?
Aelinore seems like the canon pairing to me. She gets a buttload of cutscenes, a makeout scene, and that rather cinematic rescue mission.

Selene reveals her pawnhood and developing humanity at the end of the quest where the villagers go to fuck her up.

edit: on the topic of Aelinore and Selene, I had Aelinore as my LI for The Final Battle, but both of them were in my house at the start of postgame. Is Selene always there or did the game derp out?
 
Did you guys see all the endings? You could get one if you die to the Seneschal, another for choosing to walk away from him when he gives you the choice. I missed the one for sacrificing your love interest, though. The two that I did see are worth watching and I think at least one of them is canon, it should explain how the game begins :o


apparently sacrificing the love interest = GAME OVER

what happens when you walk away? I didn't. The autosave, makes me not want to try this.


some amazing look screens there.
 
Does it actually game over or does it "force" you to take the other option? I know at one point there is something like that where you basically HAVE to do something to continue.
 
apparently sacrificing the love interest = GAME OVER

what happens when you walk away? I didn't. The autosave, makes me not want to try this.


some amazing look screens there.

They are all game overs so you still get to see the one true ending. It just takes you back to where you made the decision, though, so you don't lose much time.
 
Speaking of canon, do you guys think there is a canon pairing for the Arisen?

I never did the Selene quests my first playthrough, so I think I missed out on some really interesting stuff with her. I read that she's basically like your pawn is at the end of the game, having inhabited her master's body. Does she say this during a quest or at the very end if you romance her?

She doesn't actually take over her master's body, she just becomes human. You meet her master at the end of the Witch Hunt quest and she looks significantly older than Selene, though she does mention that Selene looks a lot like she did when she was younger and says that pawns frequently take on characteristics of their master.

It doesn't seem the same as what happens to your pawn at the end. That whole sidequest line is kind of vague, Selene's master doesn't seem to have ever met the dragon, unlike Edmun and the Dragonforged, who apparently went the distance but made the sacrifice.

edit: on the topic of Aelinore and Selene, I had Aelinore as my LI for The Final Battle, but both of them were in my house at the start of postgame. Is Selene always there or did the game derp out?

Selene always goes to your house after Witch Hunt. She can't very well stay in the woods seeing as how there's mobs with torches and pitchforks showing up looking for her. She phrases it as a request but in reality she's just telling you that she's going to be asserting squatter's rights over your former home.

She's pretty decisive, that Selene. She'd probably get along well with Madeleine.

I had her hanging out there along with Aelinore in the post-game too. I imagine the tour was a little awkward.

"So over here is the crate that always seems to reassemble itself no matter how many times my pawns smash it, over there is the bedroom, that's the fireplace, and that's the weird witch with a speech impediment that brews weird herbal beer for me. I usually throw a blanket or something over her when company's coming, but I figure I might as well just introduce you seeing as how you're going to be living here and all."

Ah ha ha ha, who am I kidding? This is the Arisen we're talking about. The tour consisted of an arched eyebrow, an awkward look askance, and an unsettling expression vaguely resembling a smile. Unless the Arisen was wearing a helmet at the time, in which case the tour consisted entirely of textures distorting.

This is Feste's background information (courtesy of the official YouTube channel) for anyone curious:

I vastly prefer the explanation that Edmun just kept sitting him down in the tutoring chair and demanding more jokes about dangly parts.

No Feste, don't target archers and spellcasters first. Put a silly hat on their head and then sit on my throne. How many times do I have to explain this?
 
Where are people getting that the pawn "inhabits" the body of the Arizen? On two occasions they mention that the pawns took on the Arizens appearance and looked different beforehand. For all we know Selene may have been a hulking dude.
 
Where are people getting that the pawn "inhabits" the body of the Arizen? On two occasions they mention that the pawns took on the Arizens appearance and looked different beforehand. For all we know Selene may have been a hulking dude.
In the very best ending where you become god, you can use the godsbane to end tne Arisen/Dragon Cycle. You fall through the clouds and die. Your Arisen literally takes over your body and you start new game+.
 
Is the Dukes hair falling out? if you go into his office while he's there you can gather 8 tufts of hair from him..And WHERE IS THE DUKES MAIN PAWN?





you died, and your pawn took your features.

The way I interpreted the ending was
that the whole thing was about breaking the whole Arisen cycle. Savan became the Seneschal after becoming an Arisen presumably by using the Godsbane on the previous Seneschal, you become an Arisen and ultimately use the Godsbane on Savan to become the new Seneschal, you eventually get tired of running around Gran Soren and Cassardis as an invisible ghost throwing people off of high places and feeding them to the Brine and use the Godsbane on yourself with no successor, effectively ending the whole Arisen -> Seneschal cycle.

Your pawn then inhabits your body and gets to live out the remainder of the life you would have had if you hadn't gotten sidetracked by having a dragon eat your heart. Presumably this is a reward for your pawn's loyal service, since from Selene's sidequest it seems like escaping pawn-hood is pretty desirable.

They never really elaborate on the whole pawn thing, but I got the impression that being a pawn was a purgatory of sorts. I would've rather liked them to expand on the pawns beyond "Pawns come from the Rift, they need people to order them around."



Feste.

Thanks. Got a bit confused there.
 
The ending where your hero becomes the dragon after you fail the final fight is good, implies the main dragon was some poor arisen who lost before you.
 
Just beat that dragon and the only thing I can say wow. The battle was super easy but also great at the same time, and that ending wow. Love the credits, but it looks more like opening to the actual game, which I think just started, after 100 hours I already spent with it :D

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In the very best ending where you become god, you can use the godsbane to end tne Arisen/Dragon Cycle. You fall through the clouds and die. Your Arisen literally takes over your body and you start new game+.

i meant in regards to selene, but i see some may be refering to that incident
 
So can anyone confirm if those locked doors in the Everfall are always locked? If not, how does one unlock them? If so, why do they exist? DLC placeholder?
 
So ... for the "best" ending ... ie becoming ghost dad/god and then ending the cycle or whatever ... is that what you get from the wake stones in the everfall?
 
So ... for the "best" ending ... ie becoming ghost dad/god and then ending the cycle or whatever ... is that what you get from the wake stones in the everfall?

Yes, collect the Wakestones and defeat the Seneschal for the "God" ending.

So does the alternate ending where you become the dragon give you a non-standard gameover, or does it actually count as an "ending".?
 
Yes, collect the Wakestones and defeat the Seneschal for the "God" ending.

So does the alternate ending where you become the dragon give you a non-standard gameover, or does it actually count as an "ending".?

Same "game over" situation as leaving your loved one to die I believe. quick ending video and then a retry / quit option that takes you back to where your choice was made.
 
^Yep, a game over like all the other alternate endings.

So can anyone confirm if those locked doors in the Everfall are always locked? If not, how does one unlock them? If so, why do they exist? DLC placeholder?
I'm pretty sure they exist for two reasons: story (supposed to be a labyrinth where you feel trapped or lost) and efficiency (most chambers are made from the same handful of templates, so it's less work trying to vary them by simply locking off random doors).
 
^Yep, a game over like all the other alternate endings.


I'm pretty sure they exist for two reasons: story (supposed to be a labyrinth where you feel trapped or lost) and efficiency (most chambers are made from the same handful of templates, so it's less work trying to vary them by simply locking off random doors).

'Tis a shame. Would've made for an interesting twist going back to the post-game during NG+.
 
So as you are falling in the ever fall does it list the names of the rooms before you grab a ledge? The first time i was "wat da fucking" the whole way down and mashing R1 cause i thought i was gonna miss all of them and die :D ... now that i know i managed to land on the top shelf and go back into town and got it all figured out but I'm still not sure where the Ur-Dragon is at. Very bottom?
 
So as you are falling in the ever fall does it list the names of the rooms before you grab a ledge? The first time i was "wat da fucking" the whole way down and mashing R1 cause i thought i was gonna miss all of them and die :D ... now that i know i managed to land on the top shelf and go back into town and got it all figured out but I'm still not sure where the Ur-Dragon is at. Very bottom?

You'll see one ledge that looks like a short broken bridge sticking straight out into the abyss, it's towards the bottom and has a fairly bright golden light.
 
One thing I didn't like about post game is that they kept the normal monsters all around Gransys, was it only the path between Gran Soren and Cassardis that has the buffed up mobs?
 
One thing I didn't like about post game is that they kept the normal monsters all around Gransys, was it only the path between Gran Soren and Cassardis that has the buffed up mobs?

No, pretty much everything should be buffed up. The only things I've seen normal are a wolf pack and some lower tier bandits on the way to Witchwood. Otherwise I see Cockatrices, Hellhounds, Gargoyles, etc all over.
 
No, pretty much everything should be buffed up. The only things I've seen normal are a wolf pack and some lower tier bandits on the way to Witchwood. Otherwise I see Cockatrices, Hellhounds, Gargoyles, etc all over.

uh weird, I ran around the world and they were just normal goblins and weak monsters :/ only thing different was the sky colors lol

but I only ran to the area with the drake near the ancient quarry and the big area outside of the abbey
 
Really? There should be a dragon outside Grand Soren(which I haven't seen respawn), bigger goblins, the harder Chimeras, Cockatrices, hellhounds, etc

Some stuff definitely doesn't seem to have leveled up like the wolves, bandits, ogres, cyclops, and golems.
 
Really? There should be a dragon outside Grand Soren(which I haven't seen respawn), bigger goblins, the harder Chimeras, Cockatrices, hellhounds, etc

Some stuff definitely doesn't seem to have leveled up like the wolves, bandits, ogres, cyclops, and golems.

I must've took an incredibly crappy route to run around in :(
Since I never been to the abbey so I ran there, basically they're the same old mobs, it was the reason I left for a new game+
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I have seen the flying dragon in the air but it never attacked when I arrived, but yeah the entire road from Cassardis and Gran soren was filled with crazy mobs, I guess I just ran through the crap areas before starting a new game :(
 
What a satisfying ending to an overall truly great game, I wasn't to impressed with the story in the beginning, alot of the characters seemed to lack depth, and I missed some important sidequests before they expired. But the tone and atmosphere it set during it's main game quests were damned if not the most epic I've played.

The Dragons, Drake,s Wyrms and Wyverens I've had fun killing post-game make sense now, the stuff they say during the fights and how they constantly foreshadow the true ending was great.

I take back all the critiscisms I've had with the main story, they managed to make sense of it all and give an Intelligent and fitting ending.
 
Speaking of missing side quests, can we create a definitive list of sidequests involved with major characters, with a timetable listing when they're first available and when they expire?
 
Fun fact: along the road north of Gran Soren during the Julien VS Mercedes quest(or the Salomet quest, not sure), there's a group of three soldiers preparing to take a pristine Cockatrice corpse they found back to Gran Soren as a tribute for the Duke.

It blows my mind how much effort they put into the little details.
 
Fun fact: along the road north of Gran Soren during the Julien VS Mercedes quest(or the Salomet quest, not sure), there's a group of three soldiers preparing to take a pristine Cockatrice corpse they found back to Gran Soren as a tribute for the Duke.

It blows my mind how much effort they put into the little details.

I found these dopes, too. Way to go, guys. What in the hell is the Duke going to do with a cockatrice corpse in the first place? Eat it? But yeah, that was really eerie. I knew that was going to bite me in the ass someday.

I'm thinking about restarting now that I'm lv.71 and nothing presents a challenge anymore. My first playthrough is where I made all my favorite memories of the game and I want to experience that again.
 
Well, I just finished the game for the first time...
Well, I beat the dragon, anyway..
And my character ended up making out with Aldous.
What the hell?!
Can't say I saw that coming.
 
Just finished the game.

Didn't like the ending/plot/etc.

My character's beloved was CAXTON so that completely screwed me over in terms of upgrading my equipment after defeating Grigori.
 
The affinity system and the ending is the BEST thing anyone has ever done in a video game

It's so fucking hilarious
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I got Aelinore
 
So question. I'm postgame and
after discovering the world has gone to shit, I went to see the duke to confront him for his decision. The old bitter man started swinging his sword aimlessly around so I gave him a beating. He then starts telling the guards that it's all my fault (which it technically is) and now I'm an enemy of the state. Even good old Ser Maximillian broke my heart ("I knew you were a villain from the start!"). Is there a way to resolve that situation or should I just focus on Everfall?
 
So question. I'm postgame and
after discovering the world has gone to shit, I went to see the duke to confront him for his decision. The old bitter man started swinging his sword aimlessly around so I gave him a beating. He then starts telling the guards that it's all my fault (which it technically is) and now I'm an enemy of the state. Even good old Ser Maximillian broke my heart ("I knew you were a villain from the start!"). Is there a way to resolve that situation or should I just focus on Everfall?

After all I did for them, they turned on me. I KILLED THEM ALL. And it felt good.

Just focus on the Everfall, there's no way to resolve it.

I'm in NG+ now, just mopped up the quests for the Hero achievement, and it seems pretty obvious that the game has a few love interests that players were intended to pursue, maybe even exclusively. They all have a few quests tied to them (like a dating RPG), and after you complete those quests, they leave the game permanently in a bittersweet fashion (with full affinity too!) until after you fight the dragon and meet them again.

They are: Quina, Aelinore, Mercedes, Reynard, Valiemo, Madeline and Selene (she's the only one who never leaves). I wonder if there's anyway to pursue Julian? He being handsome and all that. Maybe kill Mercedes during the duel?
 
Julien is gay! - not that there's anything wrong with that, but i hate the way he speaks. He's the second person to hate in this game, after feste of yourse O,o
 
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