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DRILL CLAW vs OPTIC BLAST: Marvel teases "Schism", the X-Event of 2011(?).

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Unveiled here but not much more to go on at this point. Still the implications are pretty exciting and if you've been reading their interactions in stuff like X-Force over the past few years, then you probably had a feeling something like this was brewing.

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First thing I thought of was the MvC3 Deadpool winquote, itself referencing the Wolverine movie:
"You see that? That's how you beat Wolverine, people. AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED OPTIC BLASTS!!!"
 
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Teh Hamburglar said:
all I see is a scalp
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It's his entire head, and on the next page Cyclops blasts his body for good measure.

HOWEVER...

tim1138 said:
True, but the art makes them look adamantium and not bone.

What's the context of this anyway?
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Context is that
it's one of many Danger Room scenarios Cyclops has run as a contingency against an out-of-control, berserker Wolverine. Since demons are currently in possession of Wolverine's body, issue #6 ends with the cliffhanger of Cyclops putting the above plan into action.
You guys should really be reading "Wolverine Goes to Hell", it's been pretty killer so far.
 
Spike Spiegel said:
It's his entire head, and on the next page Cyclops blasts his body for good measure.

HOWEVER...

Context is that
it's one of many Danger Room scenarios Cyclops has run as a contingency against an out-of-control, berserker Wolverine.
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Sounds like a fun read.
 
wah i'm scott summers who can possibly live with the unbearable burden of having optic blast eyes and hot psychic girlfriends waaaah
 
If they kill Cyclops in a dumb way, I am gonna stop reading X-Men.
(Who am I kidding, I survived 3 years without my favorite trio - that being Polaris/Havok/Rachel... :( And counting... -.-)
 
Does there really need to be a training scenario based on taking out Wolverine? When you boil it down, he's just a short guy with claws.
 
Chamber said:
Does there really need to be a training scenario based on taking out Wolverine? When you boil it down, he's just a short guy with claws.
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That won't die! Though i don't see how a simulation would prove conclusively what methods would be effective unless the computer knew exactly how strong Wolverine's healing factor was.
 
*ALERT* Nerd Question Level Omega *ALERT*

Any "explanation" how can Magneto rip the adamantium from Wolverine's bones?

It always looked funny how, instead of ripping his skeleton out of the meat/flesh, the 'unbreakable/undestructable' metal flows like a liquid.

Some kind of atomic level interaction from Magneto's part? Last comics I've read (years and years ago) portrayed him almost like a force of nature.

Peer reviewed reports are not necessary. ;p
 
Chamber said:
Does there really need to be a training scenario based on taking out Wolverine? When you boil it down, he's just a short guy with claws.
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With hightened senses, reflexes, strength, and healing powers that will make anything short of a tank slug to the face seem like a papercut.
 
Did they ever show how Cyclops managed to blow off one of wolverine's hands in AOA?

Does Storm still have a team that she leads? She was my fav leader.
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Shes been shuffled back into the herd as supporting member.
 
Riposte said:
Cyclops can school Wolverine 99% of the time.
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hell naw.

Wolverine has those predator-like abilities (heightened hearing, smell, iirc) that afford him the ability to get the drop on anyone. Unless they're fighting in a wide open space where Logan can't hide, the advantage toes to Wolverine.
 
Cyclops always has a back up plan, along with a plan within that plan. If Wolverine defeats Cyclops in a fight, it is only because that was part of the plan.

also, I always thought it was "Drill Column". Thats how it sounded.
 
Youta Mottenai said:
*ALERT* Nerd Question Level Omega *ALERT*

Any "explanation" how can Magneto rip the adamantium from Wolverine's bones?

It always looked funny how, instead of ripping his skeleton out of the meat/flesh, the 'unbreakable/undestructable' metal flows like a liquid.

Some kind of atomic level interaction from Magneto's part? Last comics I've read (years and years ago) portrayed him almost like a force of nature.

Peer reviewed reports are not necessary. ;p
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I'm guessing mags could do that too if he wanted, but wolvie could probably heal from that and keep his metal.

As for how can he do it? He's just really fucking powerful. He EMP'd the entire earth one time.
 
Parallax Scroll said:
I'm guessing mags could do that too if he wanted, but wolvie could probably heal from that and keep his metal.

As for how can he do it? He's just really fucking powerful. He EMP'd the entire earth one time.
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Magneto removed wolverines adamantium a looong time ago back during "fatal attractions." It's not hard for him to do at all, but adamantium has to be manipulated at a molecular level to affect it. That's why it looks like liquid. Also, a serious Scott would beat the unholy hell out of wolverine. Not only is he an excellent focused fighter, but his accuracy with those beams is on a superhuman level.
 
Pinko Marx said:
With hightened senses, reflexes, strength, and healing powers that will make anything short of a tank slug to the face seem like a papercut.
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None of that stuff makes him a credible threat to guys like Namor, Magneto or Cyclops. Every story where Logan goes beserk and beats up the X-Men always comes off as laughable to me. It's like reading stories where Batman is getting the best of Supes.

Youta Mottenai said:
Some kind of atomic level interaction from Magneto's part? Last comics I've read (years and years ago) portrayed him almost like a force of nature.
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Magneto manipulates matter down to the subatomic level. Dude is about as strong as it gets in comics before you get to the cosmic space gods or whatever.
 
Pinko Marx said:
With hightened senses, reflexes, strength, and healing powers that will make anything short of a tank slug to the face seem like a papercut.
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It's also worth mentioning that:

1.) wolverine's healing factor has limits and can be overloaded. This is exactly what happened during fatal attractions- the stress on his body from magneto tearing the adamantium out left him on deaths door for DAYS. It's better now since then, but still has limits. Sabretooth's and deadpool's HFs have always been leagues better.

2.) Scott's optic blasts are SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than a tank slug to the face. It's been established he can pulverize adamantium with it, and a strong shot to the head that does this pretty much means game over, healing factor or not. If further proof is needed, AoA Wolverine only had one hand because scott blew it off. Current Cyclops is stronger than that one, and with better control over his powers.

3.) Wolverine is also susceptible to concussions, and can be easily drowned. Namor on his own would make him a non issue.
 
Chamber said:
None of that stuff makes him a credible threat to guys like Namor, Magneto or Cyclops. Every story where Logan goes beserk and beats up the X-Men always comes off as laughable to me. It's like reading stories where Batman is getting the best of Supes.


Magneto manipulates matter down to the subatomic level. Dude is about as strong as it gets in comics before you get to the cosmic space gods or whatever.
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i was told that Gambit at full power can manipulate energy at a sub-atomic level. He needs to become a villain.
 
Manmademan said:
Magneto removed wolverines adamantium a looong time ago back during "fatal attractions." It's not hard for him to do at all, but adamantium has to be manipulated at a molecular level to affect it. That's why it looks like liquid. Also, a serious Scott would beat the unholy hell out of wolverine. Not only is he an excellent focused fighter, but his accuracy with those beams is on a superhuman level.
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Yep, that was the same storyline when said EMP took place. I think it may have even been in the same issue.
 
Parallax Scroll said:
I'm guessing mags could do that too if he wanted, but wolvie could probably heal from that and keep his metal.

As for how can he do it? He's just really fucking powerful. He EMP'd the entire earth one time.
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Manmademan said:
Magneto removed wolverines adamantium a looong time ago back during "fatal attractions." It's not hard for him to do at all, but adamantium has to be manipulated at a molecular level to affect it. That's why it looks like liquid.
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Chamber said:
Magneto manipulates matter down to the subatomic level. Dude is about as strong as it gets in comics before you get to the cosmic space gods or whatever.
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Thanks for the answers. Nerd high-five.

And Scott´s plan is terribly exaggerated. Movie told me only one bullet is necessary to stop Wolverine.
<_<
>_>
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*runs*
 
than again, its not like Wolverine is an lumbering idiot. He of all people should know what it takes to bring down Cyclops.

X-Force has his back.
 
Youta Mottenai said:
Thanks for the answers. Nerd high-five.

And Scott´s plan is terribly exaggerated. Movie told me only one bullet is necessary to stop Wolverine.
<_<
>_>
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*runs*
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Most characters' powers were toned waaay down for the X-Men movies.
 
bangai-o said:
i was told that Gambit at full power can manipulate energy at a sub-atomic level. He needs to become a villain.
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When Mr Sinister allowed Gambit full access to his powers, Gambit could vaporize whatever he wanted by looking at it.
 
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