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DRILL CLAW vs OPTIC BLAST: Marvel teases "Schism", the X-Event of 2011(?).

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Jeez reading this thread it's crazy how overblown Wolverine's healing factor has become. I remember back in the old Days of Future Past saga he was killed just by taking a head on sentinel blast which reduced him to bones. How things have changed.
 
Master Thespian said:
Generally, most of the X-men aren't built well for big one-on-one fisticuffs. They have a bunch of characters who are pretty weak defensively. Most of them can only take one good hit from an opponent before they get put down.
must be hilarious being the tank member. "you go first! we''ll be in the blackbird!"

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Why is Colossus getting ready to put on Jug's helmet?
 
My personal favorite moment of "Wolverine being owned" ... specialy because he is being owned by a character that it would rarely owns anyone at combat (at least in normal versions ... this is an exiles comic) : Kitty Pryde

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(I always laugh at the csi ny like scream at the end xD)
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
supposedly Juggernaut is supposed to come back in a big way. Writers want to make him scary again.

But he's already being a badass in Thunderbolts. His fight with King Hyperion was pretty kickass.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Punisher did it best by parking a steamroller on top of him.

Of course, that was after giving him a shotgun blast to the face and then doing this to him:
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Hahah wtf at that last panel.
 
Platy said:
My personal favorite moment of "Wolverine being owned" ... specialy because he is being owned by a character that it would rarely owns anyone at combat (at least in normal versions ... this is an exiles comic) : Kitty Pryde


(I always laugh at the csi ny like scream at the end xD)
Although it isn't meant to be funny, the what if where she fuses her glove to his brain to turn him into a vegetable was pretty damn extreme
 
Why is there only one Wolverine? If he can regrow from a single cell, why don't we see a new one sprout up each time he bleeds? For that matter, his seed is comprised of half formed DNA. What keeps his healing factor from sprouting up thousands of new Wolverines a day?

I'm probably over thinking it, but I might as well ask when I have experts on hand.
 
Anslon said:
Why is there only one Wolverine? If he can regrow from a single cell, why don't we see a new one sprout up each time he bleeds? For that matter, his seed is comprised of half formed DNA. What keeps his healing factor from sprouting up thousands of new Wolverines a day?

I'm probably over thinking it, but I might as well ask when I have experts on hand.


Answer: its a comic book.
 
Anslon said:
Why is there only one Wolverine? If he can regrow from a single cell, why don't we see a new one sprout up each time he bleeds? For that matter, his seed is comprised of half formed DNA. What keeps his healing factor from sprouting up thousands of new Wolverines a day?

I'm probably over thinking it, but I might as well ask when I have experts on hand.
You know I actually started writing a short story that offered an explanation for this, some years back. I've still got the outline somewhere I think.
 
Manmademan said:
I'll just leave that there. In addition....


Leave whatever you want, in the most recent arc it is straight out said nothing on earth can kill Wolverine except that sword, in fact there is another arc that brings in a supernatural element to his inability to die.

Nothing you have said makes any sense, Wolverine has regenerated from (assumption) Adamantium...no flesh left. If you somehow think regeneration that violates the very laws of physics is still going to be stopped by a lack of air or food you are sorely mistaken.

Its a simple fact, nothing known can kill Wolverine but the Murmasa blade. Its the central theme to major recent arc, sorry.

Simply put, they don't make any sense. One slice, Cyclops is dead.

To say nothing Wolverine is a covert operative with 70+ years of experience. Whose gonna win immortal ninja or guy with a laser gun?
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Leave whatever you want, in the most recent arc it is straight out said nothing on earth can kill Wolverine except that sword, in fact there is another arc that brings in a supernatural element to his inability to die.

Nothing you have said makes any sense, Wolverine has regenerated from (assumption) Adamantium...no flesh left. If you somehow think regeneration that violates the very laws of physics is still going to be stopped by a lack of air or food you are sorely mistaken.

Its a simple fact, nothing known can kill Wolverine but the Murmasa blade. Its the central theme to major recent arc, sorry.



To say nothing Wolverine is a covert operative with 70+ years of experience. Whose gonna win immortal ninja or guy with a laser gun?
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Immortal ninja that could kill you without you being aware VS a guy with a really big laser gun that cant even kill the ninja if he stands still and lets you shoot him!
 
I am kinda worried about what they plan to do with Juggernaut. Him being a part of he thunderbolts right now is a far more interesting than becoming a bad guy again. I am really enjoying Kev Walker and Jeff Parker's work on Thunderbolts and want nothing to interfere with the current roster.
 
Slayven said:
That was just a cocoon, now he is da boss.

He's a character that keeps coming around. They forgot to write anybody that wasn't Wolverine, Gambit, Psylocke, Sabretooth or Jubilee in the 90s though. So, by default they made Cyclops into Captain Xavier: Chode Master
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
eh? That was the weakest era for him. Pining and worrying over Jean or one of his kids.

I remember him for being an awesome leader, yup I hated the jean stuff too.
 
I guess this is as good a place to ask as any.

I've read Whedon's run. I'm looking to get caught up going into this year of X thing. What should I read?

Edit: I tried to read some recent issue and Wolverine got turned into a vampire. That was the last issue I read. If that's quality, then maybe I'll just retire my X-men fan status.

Edit 2: I AM reading Uncanny X-Force. Shit's awesome.
 
HeadlessRoland said:
Leave whatever you want, in the most recent arc it is straight out said nothing on earth can kill Wolverine except that sword, in fact there is another arc that brings in a supernatural element to his inability to die.

Nothing you have said makes any sense, Wolverine has regenerated from (assumption) Adamantium...no flesh left. If you somehow think regeneration that violates the very laws of physics is still going to be stopped by a lack of air or food you are sorely mistaken.

Its a simple fact, nothing known can kill Wolverine but the Murmasa blade. Its the central theme to major recent arc, sorry.



To say nothing Wolverine is a covert operative with 70+ years of experience. Whose gonna win immortal ninja or guy with a laser gun?


while this is true, this is the sort of story that gets retconned so quick, most people forget it about it withing months.
 
Skilletor said:
I guess this is as good a place to ask as any.

I've read Whedon's run. I'm looking to get caught up going into this year of X thing. What should I read?

Edit: I tried to read some recent issue and Wolverine got turned into a vampire. That was the last issue I read. If that's quality, then maybe I'll just retire my X-men fan status.

Edit 2: I AM reading Uncanny X-Force. Shit's awesome.
Logan turning into a vampire was according to Cyke's plan.
 
Skilletor said:
I guess this is as good a place to ask as any.

I've read Whedon's run. I'm looking to get caught up going into this year of X thing. What should I read?

Edit: I tried to read some recent issue and Wolverine got turned into a vampire. That was the last issue I read. If that's quality, then maybe I'll just retire my X-men fan status.

Edit 2: I AM reading Uncanny X-Force. Shit's awesome.
Uncanny X-Men = your serious, dramatic Marvel mutant comic. X-Men = your whimsical, campy fun Marvel mutant comic.
 
Wait, was the whole vampire thing a part of the actual comic? I thought I heard that was a What If kind of thing...they seriously added vampires to X-men?
 
bengraven said:
Wait, was the whole vampire thing a part of the actual comic? I thought I heard that was a What If kind of thing...they seriously added vampires to X-men?

there have been vampires in Marvel universe forever. Blade is in the MU :P
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
there have been vampires in Marvel universe forever. Blade is in the MU :P

I know, but from what I'm reading it seems like they're becoming a major player in the X-men universe. Sales so bad they needed to take advantage of the vampire craze?
 
bengraven said:
Wait, was the whole vampire thing a part of the actual comic? I thought I heard that was a What If kind of thing...they seriously added vampires to X-men?
X-men first ran up against Dracula in 1982, so it is not like it is a new thing.
 
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CBR: Jason Aaron talks 'Schism' at WonderCon 2011

Most Marvel Universe super teams have one underlying goal: to protect people from the various evils their world has to offer. For the X-Men, it's never been that simple. From the team's inception, the heroic mutants faced both super villains and a public that hates and fears them. Those concerns continued over the years, but things got much more complicated for the X-Men five years ago in the aftermath of the "House of M" storyline when mentally ill heroine the Scarlet Witch used her reality altering powers to reduce the global mutant population to approximately 200.

Suddenly the X-Men were faced with a new concern: survival. Mutants were now an endangered species, which emboldened the forces of hatred to try and wipe them out for good. This meant that the fight against evil was now a gray-shaded struggle as X-Men leader Cyclops formed a secret team of assassins to eliminate anti-mutant terrorist groups. Community building also became a concern as the X-Men moved to a new home, the manmade island Utopia, which they turned into a mutant sanctuary.

Things will become even more complex this summer when two of the most prominent X-Men find themselves at odds over how to handle their new circumstances. Announced earlier today at Wondercon, "X-Men: Schism" chronicles that conflict in the form of a five-issue miniseries by writer Jason Aaron and an all-star team of artists starting in July. CBR News spoke with Aaron about the series, which will shatter the bonds that hold the X-Men together.

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The conflict of "Schism" is set in motion with the surprise return of a character to the pages of the X-Universe. "Things kick into gear with the return of a character from Grant Morrison's 'New X-Men' run. This is one of my favorite characters from that run, and I'm a big fan of that run in general," Aaron explained. "That character's return sparks a worldwide resurgence of mutant fear and hatred. You'll see more Sentinels in an X-book than you've seen in quite a while."

When this crisis erupts, Cyclops is forced to develop a plan to deal with it, and his plan causes Wolverine, one of his most capable lieutenants, much concern. "At its core, 'Schism' is a story about Cyclops and Wolverine. There's a lot of other characters and elements swirling around them, but at the end of the day it really comes down to these two men and how they differ in a couple of fundamental ways," Aaron said. "Cyclops is the X-Men's leader and Logan doesn't want to assume his position. It's not his natural instinct. This book isn't about Wolverine coming in and suddenly deciding to lead his own branch of the X-Men. This story is really about a falling out between Scott and Logan and what brings that about. They find themselves at a real crossroads in their relationship and the differences that come between them pushes each of them in a very different direction."

While Wolverine and Cyclops have been comrades on the X-Men for many years, Aaron doesn't believe the two ever had a friendly relationship. "They were never friends, but Logan has come to look at Scott as his general. He's come to respect him much more as a leader these last few years as Scott has taken control and taken mutants to places they've never been before," Aaron said. "Logan has always been the good soldier, sometimes maybe a little bit begrudgingly, but he's always been right by Scott's side and gone out of his way to do everything he could to bring about Scott's vision. Now they find themselves at an impasse, and for the first time Logan says no. He feels the train has gone off the tracks."

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Wolverine's perspective will be part of "Schism," but so will Cyclops.' Aaron wants his story to be as morally complex for readers as it is for the X-Men. "This is not a story about painting anyone as a villain or about one side being right and the other side being wrong. In some sense this is 'Civil War' with the X-Men, but it's not a civil war where there's a mustache twirling villain. We're dealing with two guys who have very strong principles and very strong beliefs," Aaron stated. "They also have definite ideas about what the X-Men should be doing and how they should be doing it. They just find themselves at an impasse. So hopefully we've created a situation where both sides will make complete sense in one way or the other.

"It's funny, I've even felt divided writing this story. I can see the strengths and weaknesses in both Cyclops' and Wolverine's arguments," Aaron continued. "When we first started talking about this story at one of the X-retreats we realized that we just got hung up arguing one side against the other. We had people in the room divided. Some of us thought, 'Why would this happen? This seems to be the right way.' Others felt the opposite. I think that means we're onto something. If we can't even get all these people in the room to agree on which side is right and which side is wrong, hopefully readers will be torn as well. We're creating a sticky situation here. It's not a black and white."

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The conflict in "Schism" will be brought to life by an all-star team of artists, each drawing different issue. #1 features art by Carlos Pacheco; Frank Cho is drawing #2; #3 will be brought to life by Daniel Acuna; Alan Davis provides art for issue #4; the fifth and final issue features art by Aaron's "Astonishing Spider-Man & Wolverine" collaborator, Adam Kubert. "We've got a murderer's row of talented artists," Aaron remarked. "We've got some guys who are new to the X-Universe and some who have done their fair share of Marvel projects this year. Just working with one of these artists would be great and I'm lucky enough to be working with several of them on one project!"
More at the link, but I'm already super excited for this one.
 
Okay, theres a schism but this isn't about taking sides! They're not friends but they aren't going to fight!

Way to sell it there, Jason Aaron. Could we be any more middle of the road?!
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Okay, theres a schism but this isn't about taking sides! They're not friends but they aren't going to fight!

Way to sell it there, Jason Aaron. Could we be any more middle of the road?!
I believe that Aaron is trying to differentiate this from 'Civil War', in which readers were encouraged immediately to pick a side with slogans like "Whose Side Are You On?", and where Iron Man and his supporters got pegged pretty early on as the "bad guys" out of the two groups.

Plus, where's he say that they're not going to fight?
 
i cant believe im saying this... but im behind logan in this one. hopefully it wont fall apart like civil war did.
 
SpiderJerusalem said:
Oh, is Kitty better? I've quit Uncanny until Fraction is done with it.
I don't believe they've done that story yet, but Kieron Gillen takes over Uncanny next week with #534.1 and his first story arc revisits the Breakworld and centers around Kitty and Piotr, so maybe then? Solicited work for Astonishing shows her still wearing the bubble helmet, though.
 
Spike Spiegel said:
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I'm probably making an "official thread" for this, btw. So psyched.
Really hyped for this, I am a huge fan of Aaron's work and Pacheo's art is great as well.

edit: Frankencastle was an awesome story arc as well.
 
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