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DriveClub is the first real current generation game

i dont know if its the first real current gen game, but i sure do know that its the fucking best arcade racer in a loong Long time.
 
It is the best looking game I've ever played...yes I've own Unity, yes this looks better.

Don't think it does enough to get some sort of gameplay/game design praise though.
 
As a track racer, or corridor racer if you will, then yes this is the next gen experience.

GT has already been playing with day/night cycles and dynamic weather so you know it's something a top racing dev team are aspiring to do, and DC have it across all tracks. And very diverse tracks too, the tracks together with lighting and now weather DC pretty much nails it as a visual experience.

If this game was in an arcade racing cabinet that shook and rumbled as you drive it would be the ultimate.
 
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Also "corridor racer" is a pretty stupid term. By that logic most types of competitive racing are corridor racing.
 
I'm actually starting to doubt if GT7 and PD can top this.

It will be very tough due to 60fps. But I expect great things from PD because they don't have to fight with the shitty PS3 GPU anymore, I am sure they hated it. The things they had to do with their alpha effects....
 
It will be very tough due to 60fps. But I expect great things from PD because they don't have to fight with the shitty PS3 GPU anymore, I am sure they hated it. The things they had to do with their alpha effects....

Ya well now they have to fight the slow PS4 CPU :-/
 
Ya well now they have to fight the slow PS4 CPU :-/

Polyphony does not need a strong CPU, AI will be brainless either way. :p

(I don't know how CPU-heavy racing sims are in general, but I am thinking they might prefer this new architecture very much)
 
why should I play a game that is broken?

I will play this game when it is released on PS Plus, until that happens the only example drive club is fit to prove is how broken many of this current gen games are.

But there's no broken game...

There's a game almost everyone who bought it is enjoying and a game that people who wants it for free are dismissing clueless about its quality.
 
yet it still is not PS+

until they can release it on PS+ it is not fixed
Yep, much props to evolution for doing a lot to get this game where it needs to be and then comes the weather update. But deserve criticism for the PlayStation Plus version issues. Fair is fair and they deserve a lot of credit because I think with adding weather, there is things you are seeing as far as under the hood calculations and physics. The amount of things going on affecting the driving on top of the calculations and place for day and night cycle are making this something that just wouldn't be as possible last generation.on top of the other kind of social features and connected online operability I think evolution deserves a lot of credit as much as they deserved the criticisms.
 
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Also "corridor racer" is a pretty stupid term. By that logic most types of competitive racing are corridor racing.

Of course the corridor racer/open world argument is ridiculous. Why should every racer be open world? Is real life racing open world? Why should everything copy Burnout Paradise?
 
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why should I play a game that is broken?

Fair.

I will play this game when it is released on PS Plus

Fair

yet it still is not PS+

until they can release it on PS+ it is not fixed

Fair

until that happens the only example drive club is fit to prove is how broken many of this current gen games are.

Bullshit. Just because an aspect of the game still needs work doesn't mean other aspects of the game should be ignored from all discussions.
 
Someone called this a "corridor racer"? I don't even know how to respond to that.

I hope publishers don't see that kind of thing. I'm sick to death of open world racing games.
 
So yes, topic says it all.

Well, discuss.

Just no. It's a mediocre racing game, with limited modes, poor online play, broken and incomplete release, unreliable connections to this day.

If all it takes to you is nice looking graphics, well, sucks to be you.
 
I really hate that they released this game broken and uncomplete, they should've waited just two more months, since now a lot of people won't play the game just because the metascore says it's bad. Since october and november were packed with games, december would've been a much better release date anyways...

Well, discuss.

You reap what you sow. They released the game broken and now they must pay the price.
 
So what does the game do that no other racing game was doing last generation exactly?

Is this simply a graphics thing or something? Because it's not actually doing anything more than NFS games from last gen as far as content and online connectivity is concerned.

I mean the visuals are pretty incredible in the gif's but it seems like Horizon 2 does a shit load more in content, online features, community and diversity.
 
Messed with the weather update this morning and yeah this is just crazy good looking. The rain detail with the wippers and how rain moves... it's fucking nice !

Not only that but the game is fun as hell. Driveclub is one of my favourite arcade racers of all time, yeah close to F-Zero, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Burnout... it's actually so simple yet so deep in its gameplay.

The only thing i'm kind of disapointed with is the fact that Driveclub didn't ship like the way it is now on day one. This is the kind of game that Sony needs to pimp more imo. Graphics shit on every other game i've seen.
 
So what does the game do that no other racing game was doing last generation exactly?

Is this simply a graphics thing or something? Because it's not actually doing anything more than NFS games from last gen as far as content and online connectivity is concerned.

I mean the visuals are pretty incredible in the gif's but it seems like Horizon 2 does a shit load more in content, online features, community and diversity.
The amount of features make it next gen? Pretty sure most people look at graphics before anything else regarding what they consider a next gen game.
 
I agree this is the one of the best looking racing game I have seen. Can't wait for my PS4 to get back from service.

P.S. is there a button to stop the wipers?
 
The amount of features make it next gen? Pretty sure most people look at graphics before anything else regarding what they consider a next gen game.

Well sure if you plan on going backwards. OP explicity mentioned online connectivity as being one of the other facets to the game that made it next gen when it really isnt doing anything outside of visuals that weren't done last gen with things like Autolog.

If your setting the bar for next gen as 'it does as much as last gen but prettier' thats not exactly pushing the envelope very far now is it? Considering what the team behind Horizon did with game modes, club integration and online connectivity.
 
So what does the game do that no other racing game was doing last generation exactly?

Is this simply a graphics thing or something? Because it's not actually doing anything more than NFS games from last gen as far as content and online connectivity is concerned.

I mean the visuals are pretty incredible in the gif's but it seems like Horizon 2 does a shit load more in content, online features, community and diversity.

It's not about features and some fancy stuff that is unimportant in a game to most people. It's about how the gameplay is fierce, addictive and fun partly because of graphics and sense of speed.

Driveclub is the perfect example of minimalism. It's a simple closed concept yet very very deep. Every track has its personality and tricks. Everyone is on the same boat too which makes competition even better. It's like a fighting game, you take a character, learn his/her tricks and challenge people and learn to get better by failing.

The thing with Horizon is that it's like Call of Duty, it's easy even on hard and everytime you finish a race, the dude is like "awesome mate you did great" even though you sucked. It wants to make everything easy for you and even has a rewind button. Yeah you can disable all of that and make the game as hard as you want but what's the point ? why should i do that when another guy racing me has all easy options enabled. The overall experience is not the same for everyone and that is why i didn't like it as much as DC. I still do like Horizon 2 but for different reasons.

I think what DC brings new to the table other than graphics is sense of speed, challenges, community features, closed very well designed tracks, super tight gameplay. Not saying it has never been done before, it's just the overall package is well done and addictive. Sometimes, simplicity brings the best and DC is a perfect example of that.

I think it's nice that there's still developers that bring this kind of simple old school experiences where challenge and learning by your failures makes you a better player. I really hope Evolution works on more Driveclub for the future, it's a franchise that i love now.
 
Polyphony does not need a strong CPU, AI will be brainless either way. :p

(I don't know how CPU-heavy racing sims are in general, but I am thinking they might prefer this new architecture very much)
Sims need some clock speed to run the physics at a high rate. The reported 1.6GHz isn't ideal but I'm sure they can make it work.
 
Yes, DC is the best looking racing game on any plataform, by far.

But outside of the racing genre, i think Infamous SS/FL and Killzone SF are at the same league.
 
Yes, DC is the best looking racing game on any plataform, by far.

But outside of the racing genre, i think Infamous SS/FL and Killzone SF are at the same league.

LOL. Coincidentelly, everyone of those is a PS4 game, right?
PS4 is the only real next gen confirmed.
 
It's not about features and some fancy stuff that is unimportant in a game to most people. It's about how the gameplay is fierce, addictive and fun partly because of graphics and sense of speed.

Driveclub is the perfect example of minimalism. It's a simple closed concept yet very very deep. Every track has its personality and tricks. Everyone is on the same boat too which makes competition even better. It's like a fighting game, you take a character, learn his/her tricks and challenge people and learn to get better by failing.

The thing with Horizon is that it's like Call of Duty, it's easy even on hard and everytime you finish a race, the dude is like "awesome mate you did great" even though you sucked. It wants to make everything easy for you and even has a rewind button. Yeah you can disable all of that and make the game as hard as you want but what's the point ? why should i do that when another guy racing me has all easy options enabled. The overall experience is not the same for everyone and that is why i didn't like it as much as DC. I still do like Horizon 2 but for different reasons.

I think what DC brings new to the table other than graphics is sense of speed, challenges, community features, closed very well designed tracks, super tight gameplay. Not saying it has never been done before, it's just the overall package is well done and addictive. Sometimes, simplicity brings the best and DC is a perfect example of that.

I think it's nice that there's still developers that bring this kind of simple old school experiences where challenge and learning by your failures makes you a better player. I really hope Evolution works on more Driveclub for the future, it's a franchise that i love now.

So to put it succinctly, it's the dark Souls of racing games
 
It's not about features and some fancy stuff that is unimportant in a game to most people. It's about how the gameplay is fierce, addictive and fun partly because of graphics and sense of speed.

Driveclub is the perfect example of minimalism. It's a simple closed concept yet very very deep. Every track has its personality and tricks. Everyone is on the same boat too which makes competition even better. It's like a fighting game, you take a character, learn his/her tricks and challenge people and learn to get better by failing.

The thing with Horizon is that it's like Call of Duty, it's easy even on hard and everytime you finish a race, the dude is like "awesome mate you did great" even though you sucked. It wants to make everything easy for you and even has a rewind button. Yeah you can disable all of that and make the game as hard as you want but what's the point ? why should i do that when another guy racing me has all easy options enabled. The overall experience is not the same for everyone and that is why i didn't like it as much as DC. I still do like Horizon 2 but for different reasons.

I think what DC brings new to the table other than graphics is sense of speed, challenges, community features, closed very well designed tracks, super tight gameplay. Not saying it has never been done before, it's just the overall package is well done and addictive. Sometimes, simplicity brings the best and DC is a perfect example of that.

I think it's nice that there's still developers that bring this kind of simple old school experiences where challenge and learning by your failures makes you a better player. I really hope Evolution works on more Driveclub for the future, it's a franchise that i love now.

Ansolutely nothing you mentioned has anything to do with the topic. Your arguing whether the game is good or not; that wasnt the OP's point and ita not what I am responding too. The question (or statement as it seems) is whether this is the first game to really make you think 'ok. This is the first game to make me think yeop, next gen is here.'

I am not arguing what the game does or does not do right. I am asking what it does that makes you feel like it really is a generational leap over anything that could have been done before and the answer from what I can see is; it looks awesome and better than anything from last gen (and arguably anything else out there right now visually) but outside of its visuals, what is this game doing that hasnt already been done before and as I mentioned previously the OP mentioned it wasnt just the visuals he / she felt were ahead of the last gen curve which I questioned by stating that outside of those visuals that it doesnt appear to be doing anything new.
 
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