InsaneTiger
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That's cool. I DLed all the free stuff but wasn't sure if the SP covered all the paid content and there is A LOT of paid content.
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Driveclub - This game is legit
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That's cool. I DLed all the free stuff but wasn't sure if the SP covered all the paid content and there is A LOT of paid content.
What wheel are you using?
I found the T300 RS, T3PA and TH8A combo to be amazing with the game. Granted it's the only game I've used the wheel with so maybe I'm missing something.
I don't think the frame rate really detracts from the immense sense of speed. Hell, neither do the GIF's of it. I don't think I've personally played a grounded racer that had a better sense of speed. At times it almost feels like Wipeout but in a car.
I agree that Driveclub (and Forza Horizon) is much better at this than most 30 FPS racers but it's hard for me to get a really good sense of gaining speed and overtaking another racer in comparison to (stable) 60 FPS racers.
It's just my preference though. Definitely understand how others can feel differently (due to what I just said above). The recent NFS games are far worse at this which I find funny considering they all use/have "boost" so I can't agree with NFS HP having a fantastic sense of speed. It was still a pretty fun game though. Definitely enjoyed it.
Melchiah
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Eh.. are you explaining how opinions work at the same time as telling me my opinion is wrong? Slightly confusing
If you want to read opinions similar to mine you're in luck though, they make up the majority of the games reviews. http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/driveclub/critic-reviews?dist=neutral
This kinda sums it up
Gamespot 50/100
"Driveclub is ordinary menus and ordinary races, standard time trials, and a few drift events. Driveclub is bland social competition. Driveclub is the fear of risks and the embrace of the ordinary."
Not saying it's the worst game in the world, but hearing "racing game of the gen" is stretching beyond breaking point. I will agree that giant bomb were a bit harsh with their 4 out of ten. A bit.
The game was really hampered by it's terrible release (no online functionality was laughable for a game where you're meant to be in a 'club'), no weather (seriously.... after a YEAR long delay it was still unfinished).
The fact it was meant to be a console launch title is crazy in hindsight, and the massive delay for the promised ps+ edition was just the icing on the cake.
None of that really matters though, because the core game just isn't that good.
Here's actually a review, that judges the game how it's now.
http://www.gamesradar.com/driveclub-review/
People referring to launch reviews in the age of games-as-a-service really aren't "getting it."
Or, more likely, aren't arguing in good faith. Something about platform exclusice games make people crazy.
The game has had a ton of updates, free dlc and a season pass that has a great price/content ratio.
Or, more likely, aren't arguing in good faith. Something about platform exclusice games make people crazy.
The game has had a ton of updates, free dlc and a season pass that has a great price/content ratio.
One man's plain is another man's simple and minimalist.
Im using the same setup, but its also my first racer using a wheel and pedal set and I dont have anything else to compare it to.
TylerDurden4321
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I have the T500RS and the Alcantara rim.
What other games have you tried with your excellent setup? Not really ZERO other games, right?
Edit: I'm guessing your wheel setup is PS4-only. The best FFB-wheel experience you can get on the PS4 at the moment is Project CARS with the Jack Spade FFB-tweaker files (that's MY opinion, but go ahead and ask the guys in the PC racing sims GAF thread and they would probably all tell you the same, considering that there are only a few PS4 racing games out there compared to what you can get on the PC). You can find conversion of the values here: http://pcars.oscarolim.pt/cars/ (I use the "66%" mix between classic and Seat of Pants). In April you'll be in for a treat when DiRT Rally and Assetto Corsa are coming out on consoles. Those have probably even better FFB.
Melchiah
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Yeah, the simplicity of the interface is a big plus for getting those quick gaming bursts.
I don't think the frame rate really detracts from the immense sense of speed. Hell, neither do the GIF's of it. I don't think I've personally played a grounded racer that had a better sense of speed. At times it almost feels like Wipeout but in a car.
In no way does it have any sort of impact on the sense of speed. I almost lose my stomach at times from the sense of speed and power, like I do in a real car.
Isn't it 10 already (at least in the European christmas deals its 9.99!).
TylerDurden4321
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if you have PS+
Neuromancer
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I love the game but I'm ready for some new tracks. I've played the point to point ones (my favorites) approximately one thousand times.
I've only used my wheel for driveclub and grid autosport on the PC a little bit, I should really try out some other games but getting the wheel out every other week for a few hours of driveclub pretty much scratches my driving itch. Iirc the T300 RS is what the devs "recommend", as in its the wheel they always got out for demos, so maybe they spent more time getting that wheel to work well in comparison to the T500.
Saying this my knowledge of wheels and the whole FFB thing is limited as it's the first wheel I've owned.
It sure does for me in the faster cars. This game, as well as Forza Horizon proves that 30 fps can more than suffice.
Ingueferroque
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Honestly whenever I play I get so tense and nervous. There is no problem with how it portrays speed.
This game has been judged so harshly from the beginning.. is it the stupid name or initial pitch?
Well, I'm just going to ahead and say I disagree and think that's nonsense. Games like Driveclub, PGR, Shift etc imo have a far better sense of speed than games like Forza Motorsport or Gran Turismo, despite the former being 30fps whilst the latter are 60fps. I don't think frame rate really impacts sense of speed as much as it does overall smoothness of motion and controls. Sense of speed in many ways can be better portrayed at 30fps (on consoles), because it affords the developers extra resources to put towards things like post processing and visual effects, improved motion blur, more environmental detail and so on, all things which can greatly impact the sense of speed.
FPS doen't have much to do with sense of speed, 60FPS is for smoothness ,you can make a 60FPS game with less sense of speed than a 30FPS.
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Agent X
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I preordered DriveClub way back before it was released. However, when the release day came, I noticed through online reports that it suffered from numerous problems, so I held off on getting it.
When they released the PlayStation Plus edition in the summer, I was finally able to get a taste of the game. It was evident that the developers fixed the problems by then (although the PS+ edition was light on content).
I finally upgraded to the full version, along with the season pass a few weeks ago. No matter what the game looked like at launch, I can assure you that DriveClub as it exists now is solid as a rock, and absolutely packed with content. I am sure that I will be playing this game for years to come!
It was deplorable that DriveClub was released in such shoddy condition, and I believe that tainted its reputation. Likewise, it is admirable that the developers stuck with it and successfully transformed it into the excellent game that we have now. I had my doubts, but they pulled it off. It's great to see that it worked out in the end, and I hope that with future updates and the arrival of PSVR that DriveClub has a long and successful road ahead.
When they released the PlayStation Plus edition in the summer, I was finally able to get a taste of the game. It was evident that the developers fixed the problems by then (although the PS+ edition was light on content).
I finally upgraded to the full version, along with the season pass a few weeks ago. No matter what the game looked like at launch, I can assure you that DriveClub as it exists now is solid as a rock, and absolutely packed with content. I am sure that I will be playing this game for years to come!
It was deplorable that DriveClub was released in such shoddy condition, and I believe that tainted its reputation. Likewise, it is admirable that the developers stuck with it and successfully transformed it into the excellent game that we have now. I had my doubts, but they pulled it off. It's great to see that it worked out in the end, and I hope that with future updates and the arrival of PSVR that DriveClub has a long and successful road ahead.
TylerDurden4321
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I also have the Thrustmaster TX for my Xbox One. The T300RS is a super little updated version of the TX on the inside, the T500 is the older bigger brother, but all are from the same Thrustmaster generation. Pretty sure we are feeling the same FFB and would I not know any other racing games, I would probably like the FFB in Driveclub just like you. I know Grid Autosport's FFB too. It's also not great (I would prefer it over Driveclub though) either and feels last-gen. I didn't like the FFB in F1 2013 neither (haven't tried any newer one) and was super surprised when I tried DiRT Rally. Codemasters have stepped up their game with that. It's among the Top5 FFB implementations in games I've felt so far.
Anyway, if you see Project CARS discounted, you should try it, even if you don't like motorsport-sim racing games. Not convinced? Maybe check some PCARS vids from Alan on Team VVV's youtube channel, he likes Driveclub and loves PCARS.
Edit - On the "Sense of speed" discussion:
You guys are right that Driveclub portraits high speeds in a great way. You are wrong when you say that it has nothing to do with the framerate. It's easier to do with higher framerates, you need some clever effects like tunnel-FOV, motion blur on the trackside etc. to improve the sense of speed and Driveclub does exactly that very well and more than compensates its lower framerate. The comparison with GT and Forza is kinda unfair since the try to be as sim as a mainstream console racing games allows them to be and that includes realistic tracks and realistic braking behavior. Imagine a track like Silverstone with big run-off areas on the trackside in Driveclub, the sense of speed would not be significantly better than in GT or Forza. The comparison is just not fair.
MMaRsu
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Haha okay. sounds like uve barely played it..
dodgykebaab
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Does GAF have a Driveclub club? If not, if I create one who's up for joining?
Melchiah
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Light on content? There were five regions with 6-7 tracks each. That's more tracks than many racers have. As for shallow, what actually makes it less shallow now? I dunno what else it should have offered but pure racing.
I finished the whole main tour in not even a week i'm pretty sure
No weather didn't help the variety, then when the patch released you needed to buy the s.pass to get the Elements tour wich kinda had me mad at the time, i started loving the game only when i had the chance to buy the discounted pass like three months ago
Melchiah
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I bet most players still haven't beaten the last races in the tour, based on the rarity of the trophy, including me.
The tracks are the bread and butter in racing games for me, and it offered a plenty of varied and quality content on that regard right from the start. Hell, some racers have offered less than ten tracks in total, yet have scored better.
I'm a huge fan of minimalist style but I can't say that I like the interface in this game. It's simple but I don't find it clean (with the text/font playing a big role in that). That's just my opinion though -- a bit nit picky but I'm a big fan of graphic design so I probably feel stronger about this than most people.
Melchiah
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I'm a fan of (minimalistic) graphic design as well, and I see nothing wrong with the interface.
Clashing fonts. Just my (nit picky) opinion though.
Clarkus Darkus
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Haven't they got like a watered down version of this for VR aswell?
It's currently in development and might be released later this year.
I have the game + season pass. The only thing that keeps it from being a true competitor to Forza and GT is the lack of upgrade parts, and a small (compared to forza) car list. Other that, the game is a blast, has some really great tracks and the graphics are the true current-gen thing.
Yes, GAF has multiple clubs as you can only have a max of 6 club members.
RPG stuff like upgrade parts would ruin its identity as a 100% skill based racer. That would suck. And it's not a competitor to gt or forza, nor should it be.
OfTheOverflow
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Really hope we get another MotorStorm out of Evolution; Pacific Rift was one of my favorite racing games ever aside from WipEout HD/FURY.
OT: I bought the season pass on the cheap weeks ago and haven't booted the game up yet to give it a whirl, really should. Guess I'm still a bit put out there hasn't been any track DLC yet, although Evo has teased it for this year.
Dust-by-Monday
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I've never played a game that compares to Driveclub. It's really fun getting all the stars in all the events. The season pass is essential though.
sportzhead
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Here's a quick replay video I put together from the first bikes tour event. Get the bikes DLC right now if you haven't already.
http://youtu.be/Gkjgml_Qopc
http://youtu.be/Gkjgml_Qopc
Polioliolio
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Likewise. It's not that I need racing that is unrealistic, but I really like some aggression and wrecks in my racing games. I feel like nothing since has been close to pacific rift.
How do the fonts clash? that's also a little different to calling something plain. The interface is essentially tiles. I'm surprised you don't like it to be honest.
Cthulhu_Steev
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Turning 'camera shake' off goes some way to making the 30fps feel better. Camera shake is nice, but it isn't so good at 30fps.
SeeNoWeevil
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Driveclub was legit the day it came out.
Solaire of Astora
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Just upgraded from the ps plus version a few days ago. Got the season pass + driveclub bikes too.
When the ps plus version first released, I played it once and stopped after 30 minutes or so. It just didn't leave a good impression on me. Decided to give the game another go in November and had a much better time with it. Since upgrading to the full version, I've probably put seven hours into it and have been having a lot of fun.
I'm normally more of a sim/sim lite guy, but something about this game is clicking with me. I think it's the "beat your friend" style objectives.
When the ps plus version first released, I played it once and stopped after 30 minutes or so. It just didn't leave a good impression on me. Decided to give the game another go in November and had a much better time with it. Since upgrading to the full version, I've probably put seven hours into it and have been having a lot of fun.
I'm normally more of a sim/sim lite guy, but something about this game is clicking with me. I think it's the "beat your friend" style objectives.
Evo were clever with the placement of trackside details that enhance the sense of movement, especially at speed, in the game. Some godly motion blur too.
Agree with Ironcreed on the racing too - some of the long fast sections especially turn into real white-knuckle stuff, even in the dry.
Agree with Ironcreed on the racing too - some of the long fast sections especially turn into real white-knuckle stuff, even in the dry.