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Anyone that is a big COD fan would have already bought it for 360 or PS3, not to mention the install base difference.
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Anyone that is a big COD fan would have already bought it for 360 or PS3, not to mention the install base difference.
No one said that. However one can't claim it was day and date or that it being late (because it came out before the system launched) didn't play a role. Activision is known for being late and not acknowledging the existance of Wii versions of Call of Duty. Year after year that's been the case. The lack of confirmation regarding a Wii U version of the game until the New York event and then the denial of a Wii version could have easily made many people simply not bother to wait and picked the game up on other systems. Many Wii players of the series were feed up before that with the hacking in the Wii versions of the games and the lack of support overall. Yes that is on Nintendo as well but there was a point where Activision simply stopped supporting the game with patches while the other versions continued to get them. Early adopters would naturally be the type of buyer to have more then one system. No confirmation about DLC also would make the decision to not buy the Wii U version at launch and afterward easy for a LOT of people.
There a number of reasons why the Wii U version of the game didn't do well and continues to not do well and shouldn't have done well. There is no DLC for the Wii U version but to this day Activision will not say "No" when asked if the Wii U version of Black Ops 2 will get DLC. Guess what, people get tired of that BS and it's something carried over from the Wii versions.
xxbrothawizxx63
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This is essentially my problem with the "it's because the system is bombing argument".
No Fifa, of all the franchises, is honestly EA just telling Nintendo to fuck off...
ClovingWestbrook
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Whose fault is that? Activision or Nintendo for having such a poor online system in place for the Wii that they basically lost a generation of gamers to the competition when it comes to competitive multiplayer games.
Dave Meltzer
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Hey man, if COD9 comes out on 720 at launch a week after it came out on 360, it'll bomb and no one will buy it. I mean come on.
Phonomezer
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The deterioration of their 'unprecedented partnership' must have been pretty severe.
ClovingWestbrook
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Why release DLC for a game that sold terribly? It's not worth the ROI for Activision and I can't blame them. These companies aren't out to get Nintendo. They're out to make $$$ first and formost and the Wii U doesn't present them with the type of opportunity to do that.
Colonel Mustard
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You never answered my question.
Don't be ridiculous.
evilromero
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GCN got REmake, RE4 and BG&E so it's already ten times better.
Sorry, it was more a general response to people saying no one is buying third party games because they're late ports. Five days doesn't matter when the game is as big as CoD, and certainly not enough to justify selling worse than a Vita spinoff game!
eddfromtheriver
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Could Nintendo scrap the Wii U, brush it aside... and introduce a machine that is comparable to what the PS4 and Durango are gonna be doing?... say in one or two years?... or are they going to ride out this upcoming generation on the back of the Wii U?.
redmetal86
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To me, that seems like a long time to wait.
I assume that would be financially disastrous for them; even compared to only eking out 20 million Wii U's sold.
Bwana Whiskey
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So no Madden 20xx Family Fun Mode Crapathon? lol bummer
That would essentially be what Sega did to the Saturn and I have said all along that the Wii U is Nintendo's Saturn. The difference being Nintendo is not in tons of debt at this stage like Sega was.
Eh, Sega only got in trouble for doing it multiple times within a condensed time frame. This would be the first time Nintendo's abandoned hardware since the Virtual Boy. I don't think it would be disastrous. Considering the adoption rate even the core Nintendo audience is holding off on investing in a WiiU, so not as many of their fans would be burned as you'd think. And that massive warchest they earned with the DS and Wii would be better put to use building a console with a future than keep one on life support.
Pull the plug, Nintendo.
Why does anyone think this is because of Wii U's power? It's perfictly powerful enough to handle Frostbite, the reason EA has no games? In development for Wii U is because of Nintendo and EA's current relationship.
If Sony could turn around the PS3, and Nintendo could turn around the 3DS than it's possible to turn around the Wii U.
Right...So will Nintendo give everyone that bought a Wii U a free new system? And holy cow how much doomed articles it would bring.
Nintendo has to fix the Wii U themselves.
Calamari41
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Nintendo can ride it out for a few years before releasing a new console. It's not like sales won't pick up once games start hitting. Even if they lose money this gen, which they won't, they will be fine. They have cash to ride this out, but they can't afford to make mistakes with the next console.
No, and they don't deserve one. Nowhere in or outside of the WiiU packaging is there a guaranteed shelf life specified. Did Sega have to buy every Dreamcast owner a PS2/Xbox/GCN? How long do you honestly expect the WiiU to last? 4 years? 8?
Starphoenix
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Yeah, EA is a company known for their brilliant management. Which is why there are rumors they are letting go as much as ten percent of their workers.
I repeat the same question that has been asked: isn't EA obligated by the NFL to release Madden on every system? Or has even the NFL given up on the Wii U?
I repeat the same question that has been asked: isn't EA obligated by the NFL to release Madden on every system? Or has even the NFL given up on the Wii U?
ClovingWestbrook
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No? It's not released on PC, 3DS (unless I am wrong).
So your saying, we don't deserve anything for buying a new console for $300-350 that Nintendo just gave up on not even a year after release?
And I expect the Wii U to last 5 years, at least till 2017, like every other Nintendo home console.
They are only obligated to release at least one Madden game per system (if I remember correctly). So they have fulfilled their obligation with Wii U with the last Madden.
I was thinking more that scrapping their investment in Wii U would be disastrous, not so much the perception among consumers. (Although that would be pretty bad also). We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars of R&D, software development, supplier & manufacturing costs, distributors, retailers, marketing, etc etc.
They have a lot of money tied up in Wii U. Way too much to pull the plug after only 8 months. Even a historically awful 8 months.
I think its because the tech head at dice stated it couldnt even handle Frostbite 2 that well.
I could be wrong but doesnt EA have more games out for the system then nintendo developed games? Seem EA is just moving development to next gen console engines.
ClovingWestbrook
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I see what you did.
ProtomanNeo
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So Wii U is a "third pillar" confirmed?
prag16
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Madden did get roster updates. But otherwise right on.
The only launch port with a totally level playing field was Sonic Racing. What do you know, it actually sold decently.
You lost me....
and Soul Calibur II the superior edition
ClovingWestbrook
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You said EA moved on to next gen systems inferring that the Wii U isn't a next gen system.
prag16
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Here we go with the self fulfilling prophecy again.
Treat us like second class citizens and we won't buy your games.
IMO the Nintendo's biggest mistake is that they were too optimistic regarding economic situation (for this industry and globally).
If EA didn't have to be tight on their wallets then I'm sure they could have supported WiiU longer, to the point where it gains install base slowly.
If EA didn't have to be tight on their wallets then I'm sure they could have supported WiiU longer, to the point where it gains install base slowly.
I said a next gen console engine. IE frostbite 3 and whatever the sport games are using.
ClovingWestbrook
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Second class citizens? Please. BLOPS Wii U was 5 days late on the Wii U. Had equal if not better graphical quality, good online, gamepad capability and it sold like shit. Nintendo fans for the most part don't buy non Nintendo games on Nintend home consoles. Atleast with the Wii (outside of party games) and Wii U so far.
prag16
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Guys, guys... get your Nintendo bashing back on the same page. this circle jerk is starting to get out of sync. Can't have that.
5 days late (much more in the EU), no preorder bonuses, no DLC, delayed/missing patches, no double XP weekends the first couple times, the list goes on.
Plus Wii remote aiming was broken for weeks after launch.
2nd class citizens. It's a vicious cycle I guess. Only Ubi seems to have any serious interest in breaking the cycle. EA takes their ball and goes home. Blame belongs with various parties including Nintendo, but not just Nintendo.
eddfromtheriver
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If Sonys and Microsofts new boxes are set to have a 7+ years life span... do you think the Wii U will cut it for that long?... and if they (Nintendo) put out a box 4 or 5 years down the line then it's going to be nearly the same thing, putting out a console that puts them on equal footing ( for 1 or 2 years)... but by then the new twins could potentially be around the corner.
What a conundrum Nintendo got themselves in... i still think they should pull the plug and bring out a new box ASAP.
JordanN
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This is my concern as well.
It's better for Nintendo to strike the iron while it's hot. Create a console while people are still being blown away by PS4/720 now rather than wait when PS4 graphics will be considered a thing of the past.
God no. At least not with EA's current roster of games. I'll support them on the PS4 and 720 likely but only if I like the games or think they are promising... which is a big if at this point.
But, that's not the point. If EA is setting sail, I'm guessing more will follow, and soon. Without EA, the system will have only Nintendo and Activision games to live off of. I'm sure Activision will follow EA. If Nintendo loses both of those companies, I don't see the system selling well, which means the third-party support from other devs will probably be non-existent... which means less games... which means I'd be only buying the system for Nintendo games, which means they better be damn good to justify $350.
But that's just me. I really do want one. I'm just worried about the system's future and will consider it a money pit if few of Nintendo's games appeal to me. Oh, who I'm kidding. By the time the next Xeno game is released I will most definitely have one... if it's released.
well that's part of the risk of being an early adopter. Products fail all the time, you think the 660,000 that bought the 32x when it was discontinued got anything for it?? how about the 770,000 that bought the virtual boy? How about the 250,000 that bought the Atari Jaguar??
I personally don't think Nintendo will discontinue the Wii U (i think they are going to ride it out and see if their 1st party software will jumpstart sales), but to answer your question, no I don't think you guys deserve anything. Now will Nintendo give you guys something to help keep you around as customers?? I'm sure they would, maybe some free games, maybe a discount on the new console if you trade in your wii u, i'm sure they'd think of some olive branch for you guys.
My thinking as well. Just start over, get a system with the basics included (which the Wii U does not) and work from there.
ProtomanNeo
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There's a lot of truth in this statement. Furthermore with the Wii U Nintendo has a system that looks like its playing the "set top box" game with Sony and Microsoft, especially with its second screen, but unfortunately under the hood its not up to the task.
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't think nintendo is planning to scrap anything yet. They're going to make one all in balls deep last ditch effort for this christmas, if it's still a flop, then I think they might pull the trigger.
But they'd be trippin on sip if they weren't organizing some sort of contingency plan for the time being, as if they were going to scrap it or something.
But they'd be trippin on sip if they weren't organizing some sort of contingency plan for the time being, as if they were going to scrap it or something.