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EA has no titles in development for Wii U
- Thread starter strangedopamine
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When COD was released every Wii U basher said it was the worst version - a screenshot of a Wii U video with a jaggy shadow in it, the same guy spamming 50 posts about how the frame rate was terrible, etc.
But now, conveniently, it was the best version all along! Amazing!
It somehow went from being the worst to best, without any actual improvement, just because that fits your argument.
prag16
Banned
I don't see the huge issue. If we're looking at another 7 year cycle, that would be 2020 for the "big boys". A 5 year cycle would give Nintendo a three year head start next time. With the possibility of modestly leapfrogging the twins.
...on the strength of three Espressos stapled together and overclocked to 2ghz.
Visualante2
Member
More of a crutch
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Oh hahahahahahhah
This is not even sad, it's just amazing. To think that I would have problably said "WHATEVER!!!!1 I DON'T LIKE EA SO THIS IS NOT BAD AT ALL!!" Before.
The Wii U is seriously in trouble.
This is not even sad, it's just amazing. To think that I would have problably said "WHATEVER!!!!1 I DON'T LIKE EA SO THIS IS NOT BAD AT ALL!!" Before.
The Wii U is seriously in trouble.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Dead console is dead.
Current gen HD twins ports to Wii U power excuses are definitely bullshit. It comes down to ROI for the companies, same reason for Vita's lack of big 3rd party support but growing indie support.
There is a big difference between PS3 and 3DS turning around and Wii U. Much, much different challenges. PS3 had a whole generation to turn around while still being relevant, and the added benefit of STILL being the best blu ray player on the market. Wii U is perceived as current gen fidelity, premium price, small library and bad word of mouth. With Nintendo not doing much of anything to try and combat it. Oh, and two next gen consoles about to onslaught the market with hype and marketing. It's a very poor position to be in that requires a hell of a lot more effort. It's almost like Vita and Wii U share the same marketing teams, a couple drunk/high guys in a van.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
I didnt buy it. I'm going by Wii U owners who did and some reviews. Your accusation aimed at me can also fit those folks who have blamed Activision for the poor sales.
Yeah, but that Meelow guy thought there was a chance.
Please understand.
prag16
Banned
To be honest, I've spent $600 on my system and games so far, and played for almost 300 hours. Even if it exploded right now, I've seen much worse bang for buck than that.
Nintendo will ride it out. 2016 or so we should have a good idea where they're headed next.
Fourth Storm
Member
With new tech like HMC around the corner, Nintendo could wait until 2015 and pull a true Dreamcast by leapfrogging. Then release their next console same time or year after the Durango/PS4 successors. We will see how many gens until cloud completely makes consoles processing unnecessary.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Why should Nintendo do that when according to many folks who defend the Wii U's tech that more powerful graphics arent needed? That Nintendo makes games that are all art style not graphically powerful. Also, the Wii U having a full year to itself from the PS4/Nextbox was suppose to be a big deal. Instead it will be a year of wasted opportunity.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Unprecedented partnership = no games in development?
Liars. Somebody should sue them or something.
In the meantime we should go used games only for EA games. Unprecedented customer support.
Sue them? You're not serious right?
prag16
Banned
You're trying too hard at this point.
Why would anyone buy that when they could buy a PS4/720?
I don't think there's anything that can save Nintendo home consoles. They'll always be behind in online and 3rd party support.
JordanN
Banned
Would Iwata do this though?
The guy just made a console that struggles against 6 year old consoles. I have little belief Iwata can even create a console 2x better than PS4 in 2015 and even then, we're probably looking at huge sacrifices on the CPU.
Nintendo themselves made their system the "2nd class citizen" by delivering a greatly inferior product to existing machines with the Wii U: The reason Black Ops 2 for Wii U lacked the Nuketown map was due to the fact that Nintendo didn't support DLC at launch - that was patched in later (December).
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Its a fair response. The Wii was all about the Wiimote and casual crowd. Graphics werent an issue. The assumption was that the Wii U was good enough power wise and the gamepad would be a repeat successful gimmick. You're arguing that Nintendo will leapfrog the PS4/Nextbox in 4-5 years and that will help the system be a success?
Fourth Storm
Member
He likely would not, but he may not be around to make that decision.
specialguy
Banned
beginning of the end for wii u?
did ea make wii games towards the end?
did ea make wii games towards the end?
I really wish there was a gaming journalist who could ask some serious questions about this relationship right now.
In the mean time we're stuck with stupidity.
Ha, yea right. We had a "journalist" comment not long ago about not delving into the Amazon/Nintendo thing afraid of burning bridges. Yea, some real hardcore, investigative gaming journalists out there. If it doesn't drop in their lap or posted to GAF its too much work.
I really wish there was a gaming journalist who could ask some serious questions about this relationship right now.
In the mean time we're stuck with stupidity.
I really don't understand what kind of insights you hope to glean from any journalistic interview: The numbers we have speak for themselves, EA is in this for the money. They obviously don't see any future sales potential in the platform for their games, there's no need for pointless interviews that won't give us any more hard facts than we already have.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
There really is no mercy. Hardware sales haven't reached expectations in the first 6 months, time to pull development.
The hope was that FIFA 14 was not announced because they were waiting for next gen consoles (Xbox) to be unveiled, and there you would hear about next gen FIFA, which would in theory include the Wii U
The problem that some were ignoring is that EA does not refer to the Wii U as next gen, this is back when "Gen 4" was referring to 720/PS4, if there was a FIFA for Wii U it would have been announced when the PS3 and 360 versions were announced.
Big question now is, who else other than EA is going to be doing this
The problem that some were ignoring is that EA does not refer to the Wii U as next gen, this is back when "Gen 4" was referring to 720/PS4, if there was a FIFA for Wii U it would have been announced when the PS3 and 360 versions were announced.
Big question now is, who else other than EA is going to be doing this
Honestly, I don't think it is possible. Those were all entirely different circumstances. The PS3 wasn't severely gimped compared to its competition, and the 3DS had no competition. The Wii U has the PS4 and the 720 breathing down its neck.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Seriously, how can it get any worse.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Ubisoft doing the same? Activision doing the same after CoD Ghosts? Sales staying stagnant or going lower?
Seriously, it's pretty fucking obvious. EA made an effort to put shit out on the Wii because there were obviously a ton of those out there. Where's the incentive now? When you consider it's underpowered, saddled with a gimmicky gamepad, still years behind with their online services, and not likely to ever sell as well as the Wii, it's plain to see what EA's thinking. Why make that extra effort for meager return?
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Well if you have games that are going to transition from the Xbox 360 and PS3 to at least 8gb of ram and millions of people online daily why change your vision of the game to accommodate a console like the Wii U? How well does DLC sell on the Wii U? That is one of the key areas EA is moving to, micro-transactions.
The whole EA sports catalog/Sims? If your talking about stuff like Spongebob then no outside Fancy Pants Adventures/Popcap Games.
prag16
Banned
Source? I could swear Just Dance 4 had DLC pretty close to day one.
But even so, five months later there's still no Nuketown.
This, in my opinion, makes me think less of EA. If Activision, and Ubisoft for gods sake can support the Wii U, so can EA. The amount of hyperbole over the Wii U's death is staggering right now, but most of you guys know, even if it is comedic gold to lambaste Nintendo right now, they will turn the tide.
EA knows this as well. Now if this is only a temporary lapse of support, which would seem better than no support at all, is still silly. Not building an audience with the growing cliental can lead to laggard sells in the long haul.
EA knows this as well. Now if this is only a temporary lapse of support, which would seem better than no support at all, is still silly. Not building an audience with the growing cliental can lead to laggard sells in the long haul.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
How well has it sold? There's your answer.
I think that might be to do with it as well tbh, Ubisoft still have Rayman type of games and they are/were making a point of getting in on the userbase early.
I think they don't see the console as really having properly launched yet, maybe down the line we'll see some newer IPs (as well as their regular sports titles etc at least). But you can't blame them for waiting till after Nintendo puts out Mario Galaxy and Kart at least.
prag16
Banned
Nintendo fans aren't a hive mind. I never personally said graphics don't matter (along with many others). I have a gaming PC as well as a Wii U.
If Wii U struggles and Nintendo does another five year cycle, why not leapfrog PS4 in 2017...
Iwata wouldn't do it probably but as Fourth Storm said, he may not be around to have a say in the matter.
I realize it's probably comfortable to not live in reality, but I'm sorry to have to break this to you - Wii U is dead.
Quadraphonic
Member
Doesn't that sound like the most depressing thing to hear for a console that launched last year?
It didn't launch with DLC support.
Nintendo had a press release about the fact that they were adding in proper DLC support to the eShop at a later date: Considering you've been a staunch Wii U aficionado this whole time, I'm a bit surprised you don't know about this. Just Dance 4 had its additional song downloads added in January (the DLC page itself appeared in late December).
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Not easy to develop for, not cheap to develop for, not widespread enough to develop for, not smart to invest it, not smart to acknowledge relationship.
Well, it seems like devs certainly want to end the 6 month (year)-old console's life cycle, and push for a true next-gen successor.
Consumers certainly don't want a piece of its expensive booty.
You don't come to a race with a steamboat.
Hardy-har-har!
Well, it seems like devs certainly want to end the 6 month (year)-old console's life cycle, and push for a true next-gen successor.
Consumers certainly don't want a piece of its expensive booty.
You don't come to a race with a steamboat.
Hardy-har-har!
prag16
Banned
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
EA leaving is already as bad as that. I can't see sales plummeting any more than they already have regardless of more third parties leaving. It will have plateaued so to speak until the next big 1st party release.
Basically, there's little Nintendo can do other than treating this as the Mario/Zelda machine. Pump out some quality handful of first party titles for the next four years and launch a new console after that.
Quadraphonic
Member
Any chance we can get the monthly sales rate of the Virtual Boy added to the charts? That way at least it looks like the Wii U isn't their worst selling device ever.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
I never said Nintendo fans are a hivemind. I'm a Nintendo fan too for crying out loud. Also Wii to Wii U was 6 years FYI. You're assuming PS4/NextBox will be 7+ years.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Sheeeesh! Third party support for this is even worse than Wii.