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[Solo]

Mass Effect is a universe like Star Wars, they can make any game they want. It's like saying that making Tie Fighter somehow affects KOTOR role-playing systems.

It dilutes the brand when you start down this path, as evidenced by tons of franchises over the years.

 

[Empty]

Relax!

2 different teams are working on 2 different games within the Mass Effect universe.

How does this affect your optimism towards ME3?

If ( IF! ) this means anything than propably that Mass 3 will be more of an RPG since the new game seems ( SEEMS! ) to be more action focused.

But we don´t know anything yet.

I agree, but i'd start worrying if Mass Effect Dudebro outsells Mass Effect 2.

 

[Nirolak]

What the hell is wrong with Bioware lately?

Dragon Age 2, now this.

Did you really want former Raven staff designing Mass Effect 3, or would you prefer them to be making a Mass Effect multiplayer focused shooter?

 

[RiotPelaaja]

Make as many games in as many genres as you like. Just dont slap Mass Effect onto them.

Have you seen how badly new IP has done this year? I dont think a potential ME fps would in any way ruin Mass Effect 2, BioWare know what they are doing.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

It dilutes the brand when you start down this path, as evidenced by tons of franchises over the years.

It only dilutes the brand if the games are bad. If they're good, nobody gives a flying fuck about exploitation.

Everyone needs to stop talking about this imaginary dudebro online shooter product. We have zero fucking clue what this is going to be like.

 

[subversus]

It dilutes the brand when you start down this path, as evidenced by tons of franchises over the years.

yeah, like Star Wars for example :lol

or even Warcraft.

 

[Solo]

yeah, like Star Wars for example :lol

Yes, just like Star Wars.

 

[subversus]

Yes, just like Star Wars.

are Tie Fighter, KOTOR, Battlefront the bad games? Or you just haven't played them? :lol

 

[Jex]

Pretty much. Between the direction ME2 took and this news, its like Bioware couldn't be drifting further from my tastes as a gamer.

Mass Effect: Black Ops? Motherfucking PASS.

Mass Effect 3 is likely to be the last title Im interested in from Bioware in the foreseeable future.

Yeah but maybe if they get all their shooting into a spin-off game they can put the RPG back into ME?

Or not, considering their desire to appeal to the widest possible audience, I suppose.

 

[Solo]

are Tie Fighter, KOTOR, Battlefront the bad games? Or you just haven't played them? :lol

Are there good Star Wars games? Yes. But they are outweighed by the metric shitton of crappy Star Wars games. The brand is diluted. The name no longer (although it hasn't since 1983, lolz) carries the weight/promise of a product guaranteed to be solid.

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

It dilutes the brand when you start down this path, as evidenced by tons of franchises over the years.

Like Mario, right?

 

[subversus]

Are there good Star Wars games? Yes. But they are outweighed by the metric shitton of crappy Star Wars games. The brand is diluted. The name no longer (although it hasn't since 1983, lolz) carries the weight/promise of a product guaranteed to be solid.

Well, I agree with you but that doesn't mean that there won't be any decent games at all and that's enough for me. Still my point was that making an online-shooter in ME universe won't affect ME3 and while it might dilute the brand by being crappy I don't give a damn since I don't own the brand.

 

[GlamFM]

I agree, but i'd start worrying if Mass Effect Dudebro outsells Mass Effect 2.

I think this could only be good for Bioware. I´m always under the impression that the Mass Effect games didn´t sell as well as they should have.

The Budgets on these games must be crazy.

This could actually help making the big budget RPGs that we love.

I know I´m very optimistic - but Bioware deserves my positive thinking

 

[Solo]

Pretty sure both ME games sold just fine.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

That's fan art. Tame fan art for that particular character, I might add.

Tame as in good, becuase thats the best Tali fan art out there. Its similar to the one in the concept art, and to the descripitions in the books. Im also impressed that its not a photoshop of a real face, the face its actually a 3D model, theres a work in progress of that image.

But yeah, is tame considered all the strange sex Tali pics in the internet.

 

[erpg]

However creepy Tali fans may be, and they are indeed creepy, the fangirls lusting for Garrus put them to shame.

I think girls and Bioware games in general is a pretty fascinating phenomenon.

My girlfriend has 12 Mass Effect 1/2 playthroughs.

One where she doesn't romance anyone.
- Leading to one Garrus romance playthrough.
- One romanceless playthrough.
One where she romances Liara.
- Leading to one Garrus romance playthrough.
- Leading to a Shadow Broker romance redeemed playthrough.
One where she romances Kaiden and sacrifices him.
- Leading to a no romance playthough.
- Leading to a Garrus playthrough.
One where she romances Kaiden and saves him.
- Leading to a Garrus playthrough.
- Leading to a Kaiden playthrough.


I don't even want to go into the race/origin/romance combinations she did in Dragon Age.

 

[Songbird]

I love the panicking. It sustains me, like some sort of evil caffeine.

I don't even want to go into the race/origin/romance combinations she did in Dragon Age.

Lady Aeducan x Alistair forevah!

 

[Lakitu]

Yeah but maybe if they get all their shooting into a spin-off game they can put the RPG back into ME?

Or not, considering their desire to appeal to the widest possible audience, I suppose.

This is what I'm thinking. This can only be a good thing, I reckon.

 

[gregor7777]

Soooo.....

There was this multiplayer game that I played that got the whole weapons/tech/magic(biotics) thing perfectly balanced and also had 4 distinct classes(races) that were properly balanced.

Just so happens those dudes were laid off. Come to think of it the universe was based on a RPG...........

 

[scarybore]

I think girls and Bioware games in general is a pretty fascinating phenomenon.

My girlfriend has 12 Mass Effect 1/2 playthroughs.

One where she doesn't romance anyone.
- Leading to one Garrus romance playthrough.
- One romanceless playthrough.
One where she romances Liara.
- Leading to one Garrus romance playthrough.
- Leading to a Shadow Broker romance redeemed playthrough.
One where she romances Kaiden and sacrifices him.
- Leading to a no romance playthough.
- Leading to a Garrus playthrough.
One where she romances Kaiden and saves him.
- Leading to a Garrus playthrough.
- Leading to a Kaiden playthrough.


I don't even want to go into the race/origin/romance combinations she did in Dragon Age.

I'm not a girl but I do this as well. :lol I have 9 finished Mass Effect saves from 3 different Shepards (a paragon, a neutral and a renegade) so I could have all possible romance and ending options available to me in ME2.

I'm slowly working my way through doing the same in ME2, but I really do wish I had done this on the PC instead as the amount of loading screens you go through on the xbox version of ME2 are soul crushing.

 

[LCfiner]

well, since it looks like a new dev studio is working on this, leaving Bioware Edmonton free to focus on ME3, I'm actually OK with this.

I think it's too early to talk about brand dilution just yet. we can revisit that topic when Hanar Kart Racerz gets announced

 

[Sir Garbageman]

I'm picturing a Gears of War cover shooter + Team Fortress class system + COD style unlocks set in the ME universe.

Could be awesome.

 

[Raide]

I'm picturing a Gears of War cover shooter + Team Fortress class system + COD style unlocks set in the ME universe.

Could be awesome.

This is the kind of game I could get behind.

Hopefully it has planet mining too...:lol

 

[universalmind]

This is what I'm thinking. This can only be a good thing, I reckon.

They're being made by two different groups of people. If anything, they'll take things from both games and bring them closer so people who buy one are more likely to feel comfortable buying the other.

 

[LCfiner]

This is the kind of game I could get behind.

Hopefully it has planet mining too...:lol

I could see Bioware making an iPhone/ ipad game that is nothing but multitouch planet mining. :lol

 

[Fredescu]

I could see Bioware making an iPhone/ ipad game that is nothing but multitouch planet mining. :lol

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Yeah :lol

The first thing I did before my 2nd ME2 playthrough was to hack the save file and give myself max minerals.

 

[LCfiner]

if those resource credits transferred back to ME3, you know damn well we'd all buy it and play it and hate it and hate ourselves.

 

[Lothars]

This is what I'm thinking. This can only be a good thing, I reckon.

I agree with both of you, I have faith in Bioware that they will come through with a great product, They have released some of my favorite games of the generation, so I have alot of faith.

 

[Lakitu]

They're being made by two different groups of people. If anything, they'll take things from both games and bring them closer so people who buy one are more likely to feel comfortable buying the other.

We'll see but I'd rather they focus on improving and adding RPG features for ME 3.

 

[universalmind]

We'll see but I'd rather they focus on improving and adding RPG features for ME 3.

Me too. I read somewhere they were looking to add more RP elements into ME3.

 

[EatChildren]

The problem with Star Wars is that it's a non-gaming franchise that has been whored, poorly, into every medium known to man. There's no umbrella focus on quality, and products are built to sell for no other reason than 'Star Wars'. There are obvious exceptions, like Tie Fighter and KOTOR, but for most part Star Wars is a brand name and not much more.

Mass Effect isn't anywhere near popular enough to crash like Star Wars. There are only three games, the books are cheesey but enjoyable, and the comics are not too offensive. Even at its lows everything in the series contributes quite well to lore and/or character development.

You cant just create 'Mass Effect (game)' and expect it to be a big hit. Not yet. Plus, regardless of how people feel about the decisions they make, BioWare do put a lot of work into their major games. If this is a multiplayer Mass Effect shooter the only way it will sell is if its quality, and if its to be the debut game from their Montreal studio they'll throw huge resources behind it.

Plus, Manveer Heir is from Raven, and Raven are fucking tight with shooters. Having Raven talent on the team, especially one keen on Mass Effect, is a good omen.

 

[Kydd BlaZe]

This new MP focused Mass Effect spin off sounds great. If the rumors are indeed true, i'll be all over this one.

 

[Kyoufu]

Last week, Drew Karpshyn said in an email that his next project will have an announcement soon. Is he writing the spin-off or was he just referring to ME3?

 

[afternoon delight]

Huh?

*Reads post 426*

Oh. That is a shame.

Yeah. I am a fan of ME universe in a RPG way, not like this. Not like this.

 

[Nirolak]

Last week, Drew Karpshyn said in an email that his next project will have an announcement soon. Is he writing the spin-off or was he just referring to ME3?

While Edmonton, Montreal, and Austin all technically handle different projects, it's very common for them to work on each other's games, so I imagine he's helping to write the single player campaign for this.

 

[EatChildren]

While Edmonton, Montreal, and Austin all technically handle different projects, it's very common for them to work on each other's games, so I imagine he's helping to write the single player campaign for this.

Yeah, and I'm guessing Karpshyn would play some role in the writing of every major Mass Effect game. He wasn't the lead on 2, but he still worked on it.

 

[K.Jack]

Oh good, a game focusing on the rubbishest aspect of that franchise.

How many TPS, release this gen, have better shooting mechanics than ME2?

 

[VaLiancY]

Isn't there a comic coming out in the near future about the Illusive Man and The First Contact War. It could be a cool tie in but if memory serves me good, the war lasted for about a day or two.

 

[EatChildren]

Isn't there a comic coming out in the near future about the Illusive Man and The First Contact War. It could be a cool tie in but if memory serves me good, the war lasted for about a day or two.

Yep, Mass Effect: Evolution. First issue comes out in January.

 

[Arjen]

Last week, Drew Karpshyn said in an email that his next project will have an announcement soon. Is he writing the spin-off or was he just referring to ME3?

Maybe a new book? I could definitly see a new book coming leading up to ME3, maybe revealling a new location or something that will play a big part in ME3

 

[Desi]

So is this a Zaeed backstory game to replace my Canderous from KOTOR war stories?

 

[firehawk12]

I think girls and Bioware games in general is a pretty fascinating phenomenon.

My girlfriend has 12 Mass Effect 1/2 playthroughs.

One where she doesn't romance anyone.
- Leading to one Garrus romance playthrough.
- One romanceless playthrough.
One where she romances Liara.
- Leading to one Garrus romance playthrough.
- Leading to a Shadow Broker romance redeemed playthrough.
One where she romances Kaiden and sacrifices him.
- Leading to a no romance playthough.
- Leading to a Garrus playthrough.
One where she romances Kaiden and saves him.
- Leading to a Garrus playthrough.
- Leading to a Kaiden playthrough.


I don't even want to go into the race/origin/romance combinations she did in Dragon Age.

Clearly they should be making visual novels/dating sims.

How many TPS, release this gen, have better shooting mechanics than ME2?

The shooting could be the best thing ever if the maps weren't so boringly designed.

 

[Somtaaw]

So is this a Zaeed backstory game to replace my Canderous from KOTOR war stories?

So will zaeed will meet jessie in the game?

 

[golem]

So is this a Zaeed backstory game to replace my Canderous from KOTOR war stories?

Tales of Zaeed would be sweet.

 

[scarybore]

Maybe a new book? I could definitly see a new book coming leading up to ME3, maybe revealling a new location or something that will play a big part in ME3

There's a new book by William C. Dietz being released on September 27, 2011. The only book I've read of his was the rather woeful Halo: The Flood so who knows how that will turn out.

 

[Zen]

How many TPS, release this gen, have better shooting mechanics than ME2?

Pretty much every TPS on the market aside from no name shovelware. If it was just a TPS it would have been slammed hard.

 

[Totobeni]

Mass Effect is a universe like Star Wars, they can make any game they want. It's like saying that making Tie Fighter somehow affects KOTOR role-playing systems.

true , Bioware made very big and rich universe , actually it will be waste if it just ended with just mainline Mass Effect story ( Shepard's story ) , Wing Commander was like this in the past and EA can even use their other studios and do many thing here like a strategy StarCrafty like game from EA Los Angeles , or a Horror game about some guy went to a Reaper ship or something (Visceral Games ).

 

[Patryn]

I approve of this idea. I'm all for a multiplayer Mass Effect shooter. Helps to keep multiplayer out of Mass Effect 3, where it doesn't fit at all.

Frankly, the nature of the universe makes this sort of a game a no-brainer.

 

[Kittonwy]

How many TPS, release this gen, have better shooting mechanics than ME2?

Uncharted 1/2, Red Dead Redemption, Infamous, Gears 1/2, Mafia II, how many more would you like me to list?

I wonder how the game would have been reviewed if it wasn't for the whole "this is a BIOWARE RPG with a dialogue wheel" excuse.