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[zoukka]

Terrible fucking list. So many great studios missing from the list and some total trash in there instead. EDGE really is a shadow of its former self.

So they piss off the average gamer now in contrast to pissing off the average gamers in the past?

 

[CrunchinJelly]

I'm surprised by the absence of Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio. They released two top games in 2012 and didn't make the cut?

What games were they? I thought they only released Yakuza 5 and Dead Souls last year.

 

[Phips]

Really curious to see how they justify putting Mojang so high up that list. Minecraft has had a large impact, sure, but I don't know what criteria could possibly place it above Nintendo EAD.

 

[sacgits]

What games were they? I thought they only released Yakuza 5 and Dead Souls last year.

I was referring to Yakuza 5 and Binary Domain.

 

[DiegoPonga]

Mojang????? I'm a big fun of MineCraft but... Come on! MineCraft has a LOT of bugs, a lot, it's sometimes like a Bethesda game. And hey, Mojang only made one single game. Where is Retro Studios? What's Ubi Montreal doing over there? I cannot be satisfied with such a list, I'm afraid.

 

[Detox]

Can someone who has the issue tell us the context in how Edge came up with the 50 devs.

"we're interested in technical and creative ability, and in studios that realise the most involving and stimulating game worlds, whether that's through visual, audio or game design." Imagination to bring new influences and themes to games, experiment with new ways of interacting, ingenuity in creating enthralling experiences, understand and engage with their audiences and have the vision to know where games are going next.

 

[Pooya]

I don't like lists in general, like to see their description or is it just a list?

anyway;

No Rockstar San Diego?

id? what's good about current id?

Playdead? just because of Limbo three years ago?

Vlambeer? who? I had to google it.

 

[revolverjgw]

"we're interested in technical and creative ability, and in studios that realise the most involving and stimulating game worlds, whether that's through visual, audio or game design." Imagination to bring new influences and themes to games, experiment with new ways of interacting, ingenuity in creating enthralling experiences, understand and engage with their audiences and have the vision to know where games are going next.

That's what they say, but it seems like they just used a dartboard with some dev logos pinned onto it

 

[SJRB]

"we're interested in technical and creative ability, and in studios that realise the most involving and stimulating game worlds, whether that's through visual, audio or game design." Imagination to bring new influences and themes to games, experiment with new ways of interacting, ingenuity in creating enthralling experiences, understand and engage with their audiences and have the vision to know where games are going next.

That's about as abstract as it gets when it comes to objectively ranking something.

 

[saichi]

Hey, I'm one of those 32 million. The fact that I don't know them says a lot.

Might as well put whoever made Angry Birds on the list.

I'm actually surprised Rovio is not on the list

 

[evolution]

Considering all the great games Sony Santa Monica have been a part of they should be much higher.

 

[ponpo]

No need to echo how bad this list is but at least they ranked Platinum up there. Rightfully so ~

Also glad with the 8 for Ni No Kuni. Can't wait.

 

[Zia]

That's a wonderful list, though Vlambeer should have been ranked higher. No disputing Valve at number one, or much of the top ten, though.

Can someone that received their issue post some key impressions from the Ni No Kuni review?

 

[zoukka]

That's about as abstract as it gets when it comes to objectively ranking something.

How can you objectively rank them outside sales and budget, or metacritic rankings?

 

[panda21]

have Valve ever made a good game? what a terrible list.

 

[Risk Breaker]

Only 4 japanese developers, or did I count wrong?

 

[meta4]

Platinum is way too high. Scoring high with reviews doesn't make your company succesfull.

Platinum has one game around 90 right? I dont think they are consistently high scoring.....

 

[rosaceadude2112]

That's about as abstract as it gets when it comes to objectively ranking something.

Why would they be ranked objectively?

 

[EVIL]

have Valve ever made a good game? what a terrible list.

What do you consider a good game? because yeah they have, plenty

Half-Life,
Half-Life 2
HL episode 2
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Portal
Portal 2

All Great games even.

 

[CecilRousso]

have Valve ever made a good game?

Joke question, right?

 

[dark_prinny]

Top lists must DIE.

Also lol @Valve.

 

[dark_prinny]

What do you consider a good game? because yeah they have, plenty

Half-Life,
Half-Life 2
HL episode 2
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Portal
Portal 2

All Great games even.

Mediocre games at best.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Jesus these Edge threads always bring out the worst in people. How dare they value different things than me WAAAAAGHHHHH! Where's my favourite game developer WAAAAGHHHHH!

Yep, the carnival of stupid is in full force.

opinions, look it up people.
The WiiU launch might have done more damage on GAF than to Nintendos bottom line.
Or is this just the usual list insanity?

 

[Flame Lord]

Disagree with Valve and Mojang at top. Especially Mojang.

 

[one_kill]

Nintendo EAD is number 1 IN MY OPINION simply because of all the innovations to gaming they've produced over the years.

 

[SJRB]

How can you objectively rank them outside sales and budget, or metacritic rankings?

You can't, which is why this list is weird and people are reacting so actively.

Everything would've been fine if it wasn't a ranked list. I think it's always good to pay tribute to the many great videogame developers, but now everyone is arguing about their favourite developer not being in the preferred rank instead of talking about the overall quality of videogames and whatnot.

EDGE could have and maybe should have given this just a little more thought to evoke a proper in-depth discussion, I suppose.

 

[faridmon]

No Grasshopper Manufacturer

Spoiler

happy to see no Obsidian. Fix your games first and then we will talk

Mediocre games at best.

You must be trolling...

 

[Metalmurphy]

So a one hit wonder of a terribly made game, only with a great concept (even of not original) is enough to put you in the 2nd pave of all time best developers?

 

[dark_prinny]

No Grasshopper Manufacturer

Spoiler

happy to see no Obsidian. Fix your games first and then we will talk

You must be trolling...

No, I'm not.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

I would have put Rockstar at the top.

What has Valve done for me lately? As a developer I mean.

Also, CD Projekt seems to be missing from the list.

First thing I looked when I thought the first 10 where good.

EDIT After whatching the whole list, no, its trash. WTF they were thinking with some of them.

 

[Zia]

EDGE could have and maybe should have given this just a little more thought to evoke a proper in-depth discussion, I suppose.

Have you read their reasoning for choosing the studios they did, or the write-ups included within this issue? Just because they didn't order the studios in a manner random people on GAF approve of, doesn't mean they haven't put a lot of thought into this feature they worked on for months.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Mojang created 1 fucking game and they are #2...

ok there.

 

[Zweisy1]

Mojang at number 2? Oh come on.. Minecraft is decent fun and all but to rate them above Nintendo EAD is just absurd.

Probably wouldnt put them on top 50 list at all to be honest..

 

[Mik_Pad]

44. Sony Santa Monica

38. Ninja Theory

Wowww... And as much I love Platinum Games they don't deserve #4 specially not over Naughty Dog or Rockstar North.

 

[faridmon]

No, I'm not.

Valve games mediocre?

Hey, I am not a fan of thier games, but I consider thier games top tier because all of the creativity and thier slick design structure.

 

[Kurdel]

Mojang created 1 fucking game and they are #2...

ok there.

This is their office. Needless to say the working conditions seem superb.

And people complaining about Valve are really ignorant. The rolling desk concept and the lack of a hierarchy makes it on the most unique companies in the world, if we also factor in their major success.

 

[zoukka]

EDGE could have and maybe should have given this just a little more thought to evoke a proper in-depth discussion, I suppose.

I have never ever seen that happening in EDGE threads. They are not IGN so their picks always piss off certain folk.

 

[rosaceadude2112]

This is their office. Needless to say the working conditions seem superb.

And people complaining about Valve are really ignorant. The rolling desk concept and the lack of a hierarchy makes it on the most unique companies in the world, if we also factor in their major success.

Why would I, the consumer, care about their office or working conditions?

 

[NinjaBoiX]

No Grasshopper Manufacturer

They are the epitome of style over substance. Their games are real janky, I wouldn't call them great devs, in a technical, coding sense.

 

[Visualante2]

Why would I, the consumer, care about their office or working conditions?

Why would I care as a consumer that my iPod is made in a factory where the staff are killing themselves?

 

[GhaleonQ]

Only 4 japanese developers, or did I count wrong?

4-2 (more high-ranking versus low-ranking, to be fair). I'm glad to see that Australia is rapidly catching up to Japan as the stronghold of game development east of Europe.

*continues to loathe Edge*

 

[faridmon]

They are the epitome of style over substance. Their games are real janky, I wouldn't call them great devs, in a technical, coding sense.

I can see that, but it would be great if they could be appreciated because of thier style. Killer7 is one of my favourite games, if not my favourite game ever created just because of it style and atmosphere.

 

[dark_prinny]

And people complaining about Valve are really ignorant. The rolling desk concept and the lack of a hierarchy makes it on the most unique companies in the world, if we also factor in their major success.[/QUOTE]

Peoples opinion differing on yours Don't make them ignorants.

Also I Don't give a fliying fuck about any developer working method, the only thing that matters to me is the final result of their work. And I've never find nothing special about Valve's games.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Valve baffles me. I really don't get it.

They must have a building full of capable, creative people and they barely put out anything. Half Life isn't rocket science. It's not like there needs to be years of planning for a theme park FPS.

 

[SamVimes]

Mediocre games at best.

4/10 would not bang

Valve baffles me. I really don't get it.

They must have a building full of capable, creative people and they barely put out anything. Half Life isn't rocket science. It's not like there needs to be years of planning for a theme park FPS.

Nobody at Valve cares about Half Life right now, they're making dota and updating tf2/cs.

 

[Dick Justice]

No Grasshopper Manufacturer

Spoiler

happy to see no Obsidian. Fix your games first and then we will talk

And yet Bethesda's on the list.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Peoples opinion differing on yours Don't make them ignorants.

Also I Don't give a fliying fuck about any developer working method, the only thing that matters to me is the final result of their work. And I've never find nothing special about Valve's games.

Well, there's your problem right there. You should read up on Steam and how it completely obliterates any other online service, even the ones you have to pay for and are ad supported.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

This is their office. Needless to say the working conditions seem superb.

And people complaining about Valve are really ignorant. The rolling desk concept and the lack of a hierarchy makes it on the most unique companies in the world, if we also factor in their major success.

So if your office doesnt have leather couches and pooltables, you're working in a coal mine?

 

[rosaceadude2112]

Why would I care as a consumer that my iPod is made in a factory where the staff are killing themselves?

Not exactly the same thing. I'm just saying the Valve/Mojang offices aren't really relevant when discussing their creative and technical abilities.

 

[Alex]

First though is that seems like a cruddy list without any real context to it.

Second though is that a lot of the people here would manage to produce an even worst list, for my tastes. Although I am having fun watching people get legitimately upset and very passive aggressive about this.