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Edge Rumor: Natal To Cost $149, Bundled With Arcade For $299

If MS launches Natal at $149 USD, they will be burying hardware in the desert with E.T. cartridges, Sega 32x's, and Virtual Boys.

Needs to be $99 tops, w/pack-in and 3 months of XBL. Maybe a year.
 
I haven't followed this stuff lately, but I was honestly expecting around $60. From what I understand they removed the CPU from the device and offloaded everything to the console. So, essentially it's three lenses, and a usb controller. $150 is way too much from where I sit.
 
At this point in the gen why is anyone surprised by this.

Presumably MS will be going after the lucrative TotemBall fan base with this pricing policy.
 
CoG said:
I haven't followed this stuff lately, but I was honestly expecting around $60. From what I understand they removed the CPU from the device and offloaded everything to the console. So, essentially it's three lenses, and a usb controller. $150 is way too much from where I sit.

Considering at one time they charged $100 for a 20GB Hard Drive, this price if true does not surprise me. Microsoft is horrible with peripheral pricing.
 
Looks like I'll be relying on the 3rd parties to make some awesome core Natal exclusive titles to get me to buy one now. I love the menu navigation and voice control aspects on paper, but they aren't enough for me to shell out £100 for this. Even having some functionality in games like Fable III and Gears 3 isn't enough for me to get this at that price. Here's hoping someone really imaginative has came up with something awesome and non-casual for me. See, I'd probably play a few of the casual games if this thing was cheaper but those can't justify Natal for me at that price if there isn't something suited to more my taste in games coming for it.

E3 should be interesting.
 
flamesofchaos said:
Considering at one time they charged $100 for a 20GB Hard Drive, this price if true does not surprise me. Microsoft is horrible with peripheral pricing.

Accessories that consumers already want can be priced like that. (especially if you hold a monopoly on the xbox 360 HDD market) A new accessory like Natal that Microsoft is trying to convince consumers to want needs to be priced accordingly. I can't see a huge adoption rate at $150.
 
Galvanise_ said:
Looks like I'll be relying on the 3rd parties to make some awesome core Natal exclusive titles to get me to buy one now. I love the menu navigation and voice control aspects on paper, but they aren't enough for me to shell out £100 for this. Even having some functionality in games like Fable III and Gears 3 isn't enough for me to get this at that price. Here's hoping someone really imaginative has came up with something awesome and non-casual for me. See, I'd probably play a few of the casual games if this thing was cheaper but those can't justify Natal for me at that price if there isn't something suited to more my taste in games coming for it.

E3 should be interesting.

I would've bought it if it was £30. :lol But thats only because (1) No interest in NATAL. I don't think MS will deliver the games. (2) I barely play my Wii, so I'm far less likely to play NATAL.
 
WARP10CK said:
Hmm unsure about the price but anyway its gonna be really interesting to see what m$ can do with it.

That's genius!

Personally I'd be surprised to see it retail at that price, even $99 is a little steep.
 
Baki said:
I would've bought it if it was £30. :lol But thats only because (1) No interest in NATAL. I don't think MS will deliver the games. (2) I barely play my Wii, so I'm far less likely to play NATAL.

Foolishly I'd taken in Pachters estimates and thought that they'd reduce the price of the 360 SKU's by £40-50 and throw the Natal in the bundle to bring it back up to the same price. I really thought Microsoft would take more of a hit on this.
 
Letters said:
Blow my mind at E3 Microsoft, and I'll pay whatever you want.
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but sadly at this point, due to no leaks or hints about it, for some reason I don't see them having anything mindblowing in store for launch, just some casual fitness apps, party minigames, sports casual games, etc, so yeah, no thanks if they expect me to pay more than $50-$70 for the menu browsing and future potential alone.


I'm not sure everyone wants a real life 'minority report' as much as they think they do. Sure it was awesome to watch, while sitting down and enjoying a well directed movie... but in practice? Unless you are looking for a killer who is about to commit murder, I'm not sure why you'd want to be standing, flipping through multiple screens with every finger like a maniac. Unless you were desperate for some porn before your wife came home.
 
Interfectum said:
I'm not sure everyone wants a real life 'minority report' as much as they think they do. Sure it was awesome to watch, while sitting down and enjoying a well directed movie... but in practice? Unless you are looking for a killer who is about to commit murder, I'm not sure why you'd want to be standing, flipping through multiple screens with every finger like a maniac. Unless you were desperate for some porn before your wife came home.
Wow, grasping for straws.
 
jedimike said:
I LOLed at GAF. GAF predictions have consistently missed the mark:

PS3 #1
PSP > DS
Wii - joke
XBL pricing -nobody will pay for it

.. you name it, and chances are the GAF collective got it wrong.

I'm certain Natal will do just fine... even at the $150 rumored price. In fact, judging by GAF reactions, I'm even more confident it will be a success.
Deluding yourself into thinking Natal will be successful because GAF thinks it won't be is the sure way to failure. I tried that with PSPgo and... Well, you know how that story ends.
As much as GAF is wrong, they are right.
 
WARP10CK said:
Oh fuck off.
DMeisterJ said:
Deluding yourself into thinking Natal will be successful because GAF thinks it won't be is the sure way to failure. I tried that with PSPgo and... Well, you know how that story ends.
As much as GAF is wrong, they are right.
I think we have to wait until after E3 to make any judgements. Natal is certainly not worth $150 based on what I've seen: ie the Ricochet demo. But that's the problem: technology isn't worth anything, it's what you get out of technology that attaches its value.

We need to see the games, the applications, before we can deem its value.
 
DMeisterJ said:
Deluding yourself into thinking Natal will be successful because GAF thinks it won't be is the sure way to failure. I tried that with PSPgo and... Well, you know how that story ends.
As much as GAF is wrong, they are right.

I think I should quote your tag, but I don't want to be rude xD
 
Interfectum said:
I'm not sure everyone wants a real life 'minority report' as much as they think they do. Sure it was awesome to watch, while sitting down and enjoying a well directed movie... but in practice? Unless you are looking for a killer who is about to commit murder, I'm not sure why you'd want to be standing, flipping through multiple screens with every finger like a maniac. Unless you were desperate for some porn before your wife came home.

last sentence made me smile.
 
I'm not really going to comment one way or another on this until I've seen it in action at E3. We'll see what they bring to the table.

I'm hoping for something really unique and creative rather than simply attempting to emulate physical controls in the air.
 
I'm so very interested if Natal will succeed or not. Miyamoto said that people naturally want to hold and feel something to have a connenction to a video game. Could Miyamoto be right?
 
metareferential said:
I think I should quote your tag, but I don't want to be rude xD
but as he said, he's right, there was plenty of people saying 'look at how wrong they were on the DS anyway'.
So yeahh that line of thinking is really without value ESPECIALLY since we didn't see any game or what values they're pushing with it.
Heck what we saw was full of fail so I'd say scepticism is not overdue
 
Piper Az said:
Once Natal is launched, will the stand-alone 360 be gone and only the SKUs with Natal be available?
I would imagine that it would be some time before they do that. They will most likely even release a few Natal-less slim 360 SKUs after E3. They wouldn't want to put all of their eggs into the Natal basket right away anyway.
 
Mael said:
so you explain why Wiifit, guitar hero, rock band, mario kart do WAY better than tony hawk ride and a few other turd
The dude was being sarcastic, but the way you fixed it didn't change the sarcastic tone.
 
TheOddOne said:
Wow, grasping for straws.

No, I think he's right, but I would consider it the other way round : the MR interface looks cool, but you don't really need it when you're doing your job, analyzing a stream of data : a good video mounting table (or the equivalent hardware of the future for "dreams analysis") would do a better job without spazzing out when you try to shake hands with your visitor.
You don't really need it at home either, but the possibility to interact with it at any moment with natural gestures / speech could make it more pleasant to use. Forget Tom Cruise, think Tony Stark in Iron Man...
 
Mael said:
so you explain why Wiifit, guitar hero, rock band, mario kart do WAY better than tony hawk ride and a few other turd
Mass appeal.

We can go on trolling for 20 more pages but a price alone is meaningless. It all depends on what they show at E3. If their killing app is Ricochet then $150 is laughable, but if they have a good fitness game, and this peripheral definitely has the potential to bring the quintessential one to market, a few decent "party" games, a responsive and intuitive controller free UI and a few cool features added to core games then $150 ain't that big of a deal. Hell, Nintendo enlarges the DSi, slaps a $190 price tag on it and millions upgrade just for the hell of it.

Again, the price (if true) isn't the issue here. The real question is whether or not Microsoft has the ability to appeal to the masses with this product. Most people here would rather live their lives without moving at all so they didn't give a shit to begin with. The price is just a perfect opportunity to take another dump on motion gaming.
 
Mr.Green said:
Mass appeal.

We can go on trolling for 20 more pages but a price alone is meaningless. It all depends on what they show at E3. If their killing app is Ricochet then $150 is laughable, but if they have a good fitness game, and this peripheral definitely has the potential to bring the quintessential one to market, a few decent "party" games, a responsive and intuitive controller free UI and a few cool features added to core games then $150 ain't that big of a deal. Hell, Nintendo enlarges the DSi, slaps a $190 price tag on it and millions upgrade just for the hell of it.

Again, the price (if true) isn't the issue here. The real question is whether or not Microsoft has the ability to appeal to the masses with this product. Most people here would rather live their lives without moving at all so they didn't give a shit to begin with. The price is just a perfect opportunity to take another dump on motion gaming.

Well said.
 
Mr.Green said:
Mass appeal.

We can go on trolling for 20 more pages but a price alone is meaningless. It all depends on what they show at E3. If their killing app is Ricochet then $150 is laughable, but if they have a good fitness game, and this peripheral definitely has the potential to bring the quintessential one to market, a few decent "party" games, a responsive and intuitive controller free UI and a few cool features added to core games then $150 ain't that big of a deal. Hell, Nintendo enlarges the DSi, slaps a $190 price tag on it and millions upgrade just for the hell of it.

Again, the price (if true) isn't the issue here. The real question is whether or not Microsoft has the ability to appeal to the masses with this product. Most people here would rather live their lives without moving at all so they didn't give a shit to begin with. The price is just a perfect opportunity to take another dump on motion gaming.

which in the end is just another way of saying a game is "good" or "bad"...
I never said anything different, and for the record I fucking LOVE motion gaming.
To expand on it, I'd say that more than half of the game I bought since the beginning of the gen I woudl never have bought if not for that, and most provide way better experience than what I usually find in your typical AAA crap game which can go f itself in the ass for all i care.
 
Mael said:
but as he said, he's right, there was plenty of people saying 'look at how wrong they were on the DS anyway'.
So yeahh that line of thinking is really without value ESPECIALLY since we didn't see any game or what values they're pushing with it.
Heck what we saw was full of fail so I'd say scepticism is not overdue

I was just joking.

I really don't know what to think about Natal and consumers' reaction.
 
i think the thing with natal and the general opinion here is that everybody's opinion is in the extreme.

either mega succes or mega flop, why is there no middle road.
i expect this to sell maybe 4 million lifetime that is pretty good its no flop but its def not a succes some expect here like its the second coming and will get 100 million people to get a 360.
like for real iv seen people on forums here and gamespot and gametrailers claiming and saying stuff like just wait for natal it will put 360 on the top blabla.
bullshit if you ask me.
 
metareferential said:
I was just joking.

I really don't know what to think about Natal and consumers' reaction.

Oh I know I don't doubt that most of us don't know what to make of it anyway.
I mean we still know next to zilch on that so .....yeah
 
Mael said:
which in the end is just another way of saying a game is "good" or "bad"...
Not at all. Well... of course it's pretty subjective and definitely not mutually exclusive but "mass appealing" and "good" are very different concepts in my mind.
 
Xenon said:
So does this mean they put the processor back into the thing? If so, I’m fine with the price.

yeah. I think thats how i feel as well.

Putting the chip back in could increase the possibility that e3 will have something pretty amazing; giving the price point much more weight.
 
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