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Embargo on PS4 UI and Store busted, Greg Miller to share details

I don't think the entire OS runs on 8gb of RAM. Only a portion of that RAM is partitioned for the OS. Or am I wrong?
Only 2gb out of the 8 are for the OS i believe.

That's not the point.... This is a brand new machine with top of the line hardware. The OS should have 0 slow down or hiccups when switching menu items particularly when there is absolutely nothing at all going on the screen that would warrant any sort of hiccup.

There are other factor other than the machine for slowdowns, maybe it was caching something, maybe it was waiting for a network confirmation while doing something else no OS is 100% smooth no matter how many ram or power you have because there are always other things happening.
 
Yeah I don't really have a clear understanding of the the games library, if there even is one etc. I get the feeling that most of the impressions coming out about the UI right now are from people who really haven't been able to touch it as much as we may think. Sounds like it was a fairly controlled environment.

They were all given PS4s. They can now do all the messing around and experimenting they please. That's the opposite of a fairly controlled environment. In the next 12 hours we're going to have an absolute explosion of videos, coverage, and details about the intricacies of the UI.
 
That's a massive overstatement on your part. We have definitely seen the UI, and in fact Sony had the gall to do a live demo of it at a major conference to start the show.

My problem is that Sony has not shown their stuff to the degree that MS has gone out of their way to show the UI and games like KI. Just look at how GAF has gone from "Double helix KI HAHAHAHA OMG ITS GONA SUCK" to "HOLY FUCK ITS ALMOST HERE". They have done a solid job the past couple of weeks selling the games, and the xbox UI.
 
How "lifted" is this embargo, really?

Multiple outlets now talking about UI.

Multiple twitter heroes talking about UI.

Where are the videos/screens?
 
Nah... Im here for the games.. But it doesn't excuse the fact that we should have been shown this UI running weeks ago and it should run smooth as butter....
Smooth as butter doesn't mean there won't be hitches from time to time. Every OS has at least occasional hitches, regardless of hardware, software maturity, etc.
 
All I ever needed in PSN was Party Chat...

If the UI/PSN was the exact same as PS3, with Party Chat, I'd be happy with no complaints.

All I want my console to do is play games, send/invite buddies to a game, create a party we could chat in during games or out of them, watch Netflix...
That's it...

So, I'm happy no matter what bells and whistles they throw at me.

I also can't stand the bombarding of shit on the screen like the 360 and Xbone have done..I instead like a very bare XMB bar. I enjoy the very simplified look.
 
They were all given PS4s. They can now do all the messing around and experimenting they please. That's the opposite of a fairly controlled environment. In the next 12 hours we're going to have an absolute explosion of videos, coverage, and details about the intricacies of the UI.

Yeah. What i mean was the impressions so far. Like the remote play stuff is coming from people who were given demos of it at Battlefield and Need for Speed stations. They also aren't logged into their own profiles are they? They can't check out the streaming themselves either it seems.
 
Smooth as butter doesn't mean there won't be hitches from time to time. Every OS has at least occasional hitches, regardless of hardware, software maturity, etc.

Well it gives me pause when seeing a basic menu switching having a hitch. Maybe its because it wasn't connecting to the network, maybe it was just a camera issue.

3 days can't come soon enough.
 
Yeah. What i mean was the impressions so far. Like the remote play stuff is coming from people who were given demos of it at Battlefield and Need for Speed stations. They also aren't logged into their own profiles are they? They can't check out the streaming themselves either it seems.

So here's how it happened, from piecing together Greg Miller's tweets throughout the day:

They wake up, and demo stations are ALL over the hotel. They can demo games, see the UI and streaming demos, try remote play. At some, rather early point in the day, they are given PS4s. They still go about going to demo stations, etc. They can't to direct feed of any of this, they have a few off-screen shots. Sounds like they could only film certain games/experiences etc. Then, as Greg Miller tweeted, UI embargo breaks. He tweets that the hotel room TV's don't allow for hdmi in, a hotel policy, and that Sony opened up rooms that allow HDMI in, where they and others are setting up their own PS4's and going to town. I expect to see a load of offscreen videos of the UI, remote play, very soon.
 
Guess the embargo is more about showing video/live demos rather than talking about it.

I can't imagine Sony really care too much at this point. They must know how much people want to know about this stuff by now.
 
I start a new job I'm pretty excited about tomorrow, a pretty large raise from what I'm used to and great benefits... I'm jealous as shit about these editors every time I see them post this stuff today

I'm lucky enough to also have a job like the one you describe, but I'm a 40 hour a week guy. I like games to be my past time, not my all the time. These guys work bonkers hours and have to travel around. I know there are some that would love that, but I'm content going about my life while they get the news for me.
 
Okay, so for anybody who cares about what I was hinting at earlier. And feel free to be all "OMG who the hell cares about that?!"

Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've also been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now. Why do you hate alphabetization Sony? :(

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Also, I harassed Grace Chen.
 
Okay, so for anybody who cares about what I was hinting at earlier. And feel free to be all "OMG who the hell cares about that?!"

Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've also been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now. Why do you hate alphabetization Sony? :(

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Also, I harassed Grace Chen.

I don't think this is exaggerated or being nitpicky. Sounds like reasonable criticisms to me. It might not bother everyone, but it's valid. Thanks for sharing.
 
Okay, so for anybody who cares about what I was hinting at earlier. And feel free to be all "OMG who the hell cares about that?!"

Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've also been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now. Why do you hate alphabetization Sony? :(

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Yeah... Considering the games are 30-50 gigs a piece I don't see anyone racking up 100 games, gonna be honest. Maybe with indie titles?

Also personally I prefer sort by use. I'm not happy about it, just wondering how much of an issue this will be all things considered. Hope they fix that and/or have options in the system settings like you said.
 
Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've always been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now.

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Sure they could provide an option but ask yourself, not in your case, how would not sorting the games by use be intuitive?

Though I'm pretty sure the UI can be revised in future updates regardless. Everything can't be perfect at launch and we have to give credit that Sony has done a lot of things right so far and that some things can go wrong.
 
Just to clarify, do you know if what was being shown to you firmware 1.5 or 1.0 or something in between?

I'm not positive. But I asked about how unwieldy the list could quickly become, and there was no hint in the answers that I received that it was something that was fixed as part of any known firmware update.


What IS the library option anyways? What does it do?

There's a Library in the PlayStation Store now that shows your purchased content. This is a quick link to that.


Sure they could provide an option but ask yourself, not in your case, how would not sorting the games by use be intuitive?

For things you've used in the last week or two, no big deal. But what about a few months ago? If you don't remember when you've played X game in relation to Y or Z game, you'd need to actively search for where a game is in the list (version knowing a near specific location dependent on title).
 
Okay, so for anybody who cares about what I was hinting at earlier. And feel free to be all "OMG who the hell cares about that?!"

Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've also been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now. Why do you hate alphabetization Sony? :(

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Also, I harassed Grace Chen.

ugh. Even just 20 games sounds like it would be a pain. Hopefully Japanese UI designers discover the magic of folders.


thanks for the details.
 
My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.
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I concur. In my opinion, something like a grid(detailed) view would be best if you have 50+ games. I never used tile/cover views in Steam or even in file manager. Searching as you type works well in this situation, and that touchpad on DS4 can be effectively used for this function.
 
The reason there is no video yet is most of these people have to fly back home. There is going to be an overload of video come Tuesday afternoon, once they are able to hook their systems up to their capturing devices.
 
For things you've used in the last week or two, no big deal. But what about a few months ago? If you don't remember when you've played X game in relation to Y or Z game, you'd need to actively search for where a game is in the list (version knowing a near specific location dependent on title).

Minor question, can you use the touch pad to navigate it? I can see that quickening things like on an ipod.
 

Not having lot of different sort options on PS3 was a huge oversight on Sony's part.

But from what you are describing, it sounds like it's an evolution of vita UI. So one would think that they will let to move titles and arrange them the way you like. Kinda like vita bubbles.

Edit: I think I misunderstood what you were saying. nvm.
 
I want to treat my digital games library like my physical games library. We all have different ways we sort. I would hope Sony fixes this in a couple months when there are enough games to warrant it.

I am assuming that it works like the Vita too? When you delete a game the icon stays and there is no memory manager for saves?
 
I am assuming that it works like the Vita too? When you delete a game the icon stays and there is no memory manager?

I asked about "removing" games from this main list, and was told that you can delete a game from the list, but that's basically deleting the game from the system. That's the only answer I can give in that regard, though.
 
Okay, so for anybody who cares about what I was hinting at earlier. And feel free to be all "OMG who the hell cares about that?!"

Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've also been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now. Why do you hate alphabetization Sony? :(

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Also, I harassed Grace Chen.
Your concerns are valid. As somebody who is mostly a digital gamer, I'm worried about not having a dedicated games library. I really hope that gets fixed soon. Did they talk about the slow PS Store updates?
 
Okay, so for anybody who cares about what I was hinting at earlier. And feel free to be all "OMG who the hell cares about that?!"

Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've also been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now. Why do you hate alphabetization Sony? :(

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Also, I harassed Grace Chen.

Yeah, that's a legit concern. Thanks for bringing that up. Hopefully they do something about it as soon as possible.

Edit: Is there a use for the touchpad while going through the UI?
 
I want to treat my digital games library like my physical games library. We all have different ways we sort. I would hope Sony fixes this in a couple months when there are enough games to warrant it.

I am assuming that it works like the Vita too? When you delete a game the icon stays and there is no memory manager?

On vita you can sort things how you like, but downloaded games are gone(with their save data) once deleted. Worst part of the Vita is that detail, but it's easy to get around by just using your computer for storage, only a couple minutes back and forth over the vita's usb.

Edit: Which leads me to a very important question. Save data does not equal game data I hope? They wouldn't do that again would they?
 
I asked about "removing" games from this main list, and was told that you can delete a game from the list, but that's basically deleting the game from the system. That's the only answer I can give in that regard, though.


looks like these are not treated as shortcuts but actual representations of the games.

sucks that some of this basic stuff is not currently available. Almost makes you feel that they learned nothing from xmb.
 
If there is no way of sorting my games and hiding them in the library then this is absolutely ridiculous. I don't want to be scrolling through a bunch of games to the game that I want to play.
 
Okay, so for anybody who cares about what I was hinting at earlier. And feel free to be all "OMG who the hell cares about that?!"

Also, let me be clear: this comes from having the UI demonstrated for me, and from asking questions of Sony folk during that demonstration. I have not used the PS4 that I was given as part of today's events as of this point. So, I'd love for some of my problems with the UI to be fixable with system options (either already there or added later).

So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

My other frustration? On the machine I was shown, those items are sorted by use. NO. I hate hate that. (To be fair, this is becoming a disgusting industry trend that extends beyond Sony and game consoles.) I'm really hoping that there will be an option in the OS that can set this to be sorted alphabetically, but I've also been waiting for the ability to sort folder contents alphabetically on the PS3 for years now. Why do you hate alphabetization Sony? :(

My frustration is that this is another example of how I feel like, sometimes, companies build UIs that work great when you've purchased 4-5 things, but quickly fail the more you purchase. If things work exactly as they did for the demonstration today, and there's no options for better organization, I hope enough people complain to Sony for them to realize that this is something that needs to be better ASAP.

Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Also, I harassed Grace Chen.

Yeah, this will probably make my OCD go nuts. Tiles suck, and I've never been a fan of the in your face new GUI's that make sense on mobile, but not dedicated hardware.
 
So, that main strip of titles that serves as the most notable way to get to your content. Your games go there, items like Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited go there, options like your Library, the web browser, and a few other things go in there.

All of your games go there. Of course, this lead me to ask, "So what happens when you have, say, a hundred games?" Because it wouldn't take long for that list to become one super long horizontal line of content to wade through.

For now, it seems that that's how it's going to be. I was told that, as of now, you can't hide items from this list. The list already had that Library option, so why not have the list be either the disc you've got in the machine, or games you've specifically pinned? It reminds me of how the PS3 originally was, where it dumped all of your games under the Games tab and called it a day.

Pretty damn disappointing. Folders on the PS3 were serviceable, functional, and most importantly, necessary. Seems like a stupid thing to omit to me.
 
Dear Sony,



Just copy Steam's games list and give it to us as an option somewhere.



Thanks,
Me.

This. Please this. I don't want to hunt down content in the store or download list. Simply show me what I have and let me download it quickly. I love that about Steam because I can install/delete games super quick. It makes hard drive space juggling non-existent.
 
Again, these are early impressions from a UI/system demonstration today. I would be happy to be wrong in my panic over any of this. *laughs* There's a lot I liked about the interface, but other instances (like the above) where it unfortunately feels like a 1.0 user interface, and I always get very bitchy when companies make a UI advancement and then lose it when doing a major interface update. (Sony, of course, is far from the only one who does this.)

Also, I harassed Grace Chen.
You should ask her if she'll ever do more videos.

You should have come by earlier. People call random criticisms, especially those that are contrary to others FUD. Really quickly. Keep in touch, eh?
What IS the library option anyways? What does it do?
It's a secret to everybody.
 
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