That would be pretty decent actually.
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Episode VIII is "The Last Jedi"
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That would be pretty decent actually.
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That's a good sign that maybe the title isn't giving away as much as you think.
Kylo at that point is gonna be so powerful he can *kill* force ghosts.
It's about Attack of the Clones level. It says that somethign will happen or will be in the movie, but it's vague to the point where it could be many things. Such as
-Luke is the last Jedi
-Luke and Rey are the last Jedi
-Luke decides there will be no Jedi
-Kylo Ren is the last Jedi
-The Last Jedi is(are) the focus of the movie.
etc.
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I don't find any of those to be as likely as "Rey gets trained by Luke and then Luke dies." Big movies tend walk a predictable path.
Chuckie
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He killed the Emperor and is now leader of the Sith Order. He dismissed the Rule of Two.
Padme has become a hardened Imperial Officer/Grandest Moff under Vaders influence!
The Dark Side is strong enough to change the most enthousiastic defender of democracy into a military facist leader.
Also why am I 'explaining' shitty fan art?
ertitoagus
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imho Luke and Snoke are the same guy, multiple personality problem not resolved in the return of the Jedy. That would fit.
That is going to be the final surprise of this film.
That is going to be the final surprise of this film.
scoobs
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Chuckie
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Even the horror that was AotC couldn't stop me from watching Star Wars movies.... but that just might do it.
That would be worse than the Christmas special.
What if the 'Last Jedi' (plural) are essentially this movie's mcguffin? Luke was at the Jedi temple, trying to track down the other Jedi he already trained. Snoke, meanwhile, believes Kylo is ready for his mission - to lead the Knights of Ren to find and destroy the last Jedi themselves. So the Last Jedi is a collective and the focus of the story that way, not just a singular person or two.
Eventually they track down a female Jedi who we find out is Rey's mother, and it heavily implies Luke is her father. Then, in IX, its revealed that not only is Luke Rey's father, but her mother is actually a Kenobi for a double "I am your father / grandfather punch"
Can we have an anime/manga ending to the trilogy?
Luke: Has he really done it, has Kylo really reached a level beyond an ascended Jedi?
Kylo: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*5 minutes later*
Kylo: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Snoke: Oh my gosh, I thought Super Jedis were largenedary?
Luke: Has he really done it, has Kylo really reached a level beyond an ascended Jedi?
Kylo: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*5 minutes later*
Kylo: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Snoke: Oh my gosh, I thought Super Jedis were largenedary?
Haloid1177
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I'd support this. He did train Jaina to kill Jacen in the old EU.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Could be jedi plular
TheExecutive
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Finn is a hack.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I hope you don't really think this is possible. Because, no.
I really hope they take more chances with this one. Frankly, if they're gonna to the cliché thing by killing Luke, though, then I'll probably feel all the more strongly about the existence of VII (and VII, as a result) being completely pointless. I actually found it kind of odd (and refreshing) that Rogue One seemed to differentiate itself more from the original movies, despite taking place in such close proximity to them in the timeline.
Duane Cunningham
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I actually thought about that after seeing TFA the first time. Maybe up on the hill there he has a little shack with transmitters and stuff and when he sits down to transmit orders to Hux and Kylo, he comes out looking like that on the other end. That's why "Snoke" was so familiar with Han Solo, etc.
bengraven
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Looking forward to it. I really like these movies but I don't treat them as Shakespeare - it's mostly fun nonsense with extremely high production values. I basically want some pretty planets, some cool creatures, some fun action sequences, cool music, a likable cast, some stuff to nerd out over and most of all a fun night out with my friends. I'm pretty much guaranteed all of that, so I'll be fine.
It is what it is, and that's more than good enough for me. I sometimes feel like people want Star Wars to be something it's not. If you want something deeper, there are plenty of films released every year that'll satisfy that need. Even in just sci-fi/sci-fantasy specifically.
I still don't understand so many people assuming the title means Luke is going to die. The movie literally starts with Rey having found Luke - aka The Last Jedi, as he's been alluded to both in the OT and in TFA. That's all it is. Right now he's the Last Jedi, that doesn't mean there will never be Jedi after him (they do have a franchise to run for infinity after all), or that he will die in that movie and that that will be the end of the Jedi. That might be the case if they called the movie The End of the Jedi, or Death of the Jedi, or something similarly crappy. But they didn't. They called it The Last Jedi. Words mean things.
Given the fact that the opening crawl of TFA started with Luke being missing, and Rey finding him at the end, it's reasonable to assume a large part of the movie will concern itself with him as the Last Jedi. That's all it means.
It is what it is, and that's more than good enough for me. I sometimes feel like people want Star Wars to be something it's not. If you want something deeper, there are plenty of films released every year that'll satisfy that need. Even in just sci-fi/sci-fantasy specifically.
I still don't understand so many people assuming the title means Luke is going to die. The movie literally starts with Rey having found Luke - aka The Last Jedi, as he's been alluded to both in the OT and in TFA. That's all it is. Right now he's the Last Jedi, that doesn't mean there will never be Jedi after him (they do have a franchise to run for infinity after all), or that he will die in that movie and that that will be the end of the Jedi. That might be the case if they called the movie The End of the Jedi, or Death of the Jedi, or something similarly crappy. But they didn't. They called it The Last Jedi. Words mean things.
Given the fact that the opening crawl of TFA started with Luke being missing, and Rey finding him at the end, it's reasonable to assume a large part of the movie will concern itself with him as the Last Jedi. That's all it means.
Sapiens
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My expectations are set to "competent" and "inoffensive."
StanleyStutters
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I don't think this guarantees a Luke death. Jedi could be plural or it could mean he is the last Jedi and Rei is the start of something new altogether. Love the red outline, too.
Bobby Roberts
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This that satire I been hearing about I guess LOL haha
Also, I dunno what happened in here after I left for the night but I'm not interested in heading upstairs after the slumber party to pick through the filth, either.
The "OMG LUKE IS GONNA DIE" thing seems to be sourced back to this basic line of thought:
Last = final
Final = The end
Red = death.
Luke is the last jedi so that means he's gotta die.
Now, I think Luke will die in the Sequel Trilogy, but I don't know that it's happening in this movie, and I don't know that it's happening in a battle, or a lightsaber fight, or anything like that. But the title itself (and the color of the title) don't say to me "THIS IS THE END FOR LUKE SKYWALKER" at all. Just that Luke is going to be much more prominent in this film than he was the last one, while still being the focus of most everyone's concern in the story proper.
Snoke: He is the Legendary Super Sith. For you see, Rey, you're no longer dealing with the average Sith warrior anymore.
Into the Light
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Maz said that in the past we had Sith and the Jedi, now its more dark vs light. Maybe they intended to take the two sides in a different direction.
Bobby Roberts
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Lucasfilm's been pointing that way with most every bit of fiction since 2012, yeah.
Skellig Gra
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Do you honestly believe they gave away an important plot point in the movie title? I mean seriously, this isn't Disney's first movie.
Bobby Roberts
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These assumptions have even caused people to claim they've been spoiled, lol.
If there's one thing I've learned about SW theorizing it's that people think they know FAR more than they do.
Lifejumper
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You mean colin trevorrow and co? Pretty curious about his new movie coming out this year 'Book of Henry'. Don't have much faith in him after JW.
Bobby Roberts
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It's also this knee-jerk need to try and "solve" the movie before it comes out based on the marketing. A lot of the disappointment re: Rogue One's trailers wasn't just that there was footage in there that never made it into the film, it's that the footage led them down an incorrect path w/r/t their theorizing, and so they felt cheated when the film came out and they didn't have it guessed correctly.
Which is weird as hell, but I also understand it because I did the same damn thing back in the Prequel days.
The consumption of marketing not as marketing, but as mystery to solve before watching the movie is a big contributor to the idea that blockbusters are a weird competition between the audience and the movie.
Which is weird as hell, but I also understand it because I did the same damn thing back in the Prequel days.
The consumption of marketing not as marketing, but as mystery to solve before watching the movie is a big contributor to the idea that blockbusters are a weird competition between the audience and the movie.
Personally, I absolutely love it if the trailers manage to dupe me in regards to the story, so long as they don't create a totally inaccurate picture of the kind of film I'm about to watch. I'd rather go into the cinema not knowing how the story might play out as opposed to knowing absolutely every plot point and twist in said film before it even has the chance to begin.
To use a video game reference, the makers of The Last of Us intentionally created a rather dramatic scene they could sneak into the trailer so they could deceive people into thinking the story would go a certain way, only to end up deliberately subverting the expectations of the players. I really dug that, personally, although I could see how some players might conversely walk away feeling cheated.
Which has been made far worse due to spoiler-hunting. But yeah nowadays everybody's an expert detective. Like I saw an entire video about how Rey can't possibly be Luke's daughter because it makes no sense for him to have dropped her off at Jakku. Like.. That's the ONLY possible way she could have gotten there.
JeTmAn81
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WhiteRabbitEXE
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Luke ain't her father because Luke ain't her father.
Also, JJ should edit the TLJ trailers just to fuck with everyone.
though the odds are still better than the negative zero chance she's a Kenobi
Also, JJ should edit the TLJ trailers just to fuck with everyone.
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