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Erdogan accuses Germany of 'Nazi practices' over blocked political rallies

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Muffin1611

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The Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has lashed out at Germany for blocking several rallies on its soil before an April vote in Turkey on boosting his powers, likening its stance to Nazi practices.

“Your practices are not different from the Nazi practices of the past,” Erdogan said of Germany at a women’s rally in Istanbul, ahead of a 16 April referendum on whether to approve changes to the constitution.

“I thought it’s been a long time since Germany left [Nazi practices]. We are mistaken,” he said.

Several German towns prevented appearances by Erdoğan’s ministers last week, citing security and safety concerns.

The cancellations have infuriated the Turkish government, which accused Berlin of working against the “yes” campaign in the referendum and summoned the German ambassador to the foreign ministry in protest.

“You will lecture us about democracy and then you will not let this country’s ministers speak there,” said an angry Erdoğan, adding that Germany was not “respecting opinion and thought”.

Angela Merkel, Germany’s chancellor, on Saturday called Binali Yıldırım, Turkey’s prime minister, to try to defuse the row, and the two countries’ foreign ministers are set to meet later this week.

Relations between Turkey and Germany lurched into crisis after the arrest and incarceration of a German-Turkish journalist in Turkey.

Deniz Yücel, a correspondent for Die Welt, was formally arrested last week pending a trial on charges of propaganda and incitement to hatred. Erdoğan claimed the journalist was a German spy and a representative of the outlawed Kurdish rebel group PKK.

Erdoğan accused Berlin of harbouring him for a month at the German consulate in Istanbul before agreeing to hand him over to authorities. “They need to be put on trial for aiding and abetting terrorism,” Erdoğan said during a speech on Friday.

His comments came after hours after Turkey’s justice minister, Bekir Bozdağ, was prevented from holding a rally in a south-west German town.
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I think someone is projecting here.
 
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Piecake

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Pod Save the World had some pretty amusing comments to make about Erdogan in one of their episodes.

Basically he spends all of his time while meeting with foreign diplomats/state department officials complaining about attacks on himself and his wife and what he can do about it.

Dude doesn't sound right in the head if true.
 
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Nere

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Angela Merkel, Germany’s chancellor, on Saturday called Binali Yıldırım, Turkey’s prime minister, to try to defuse the row, and the two countries’ foreign ministers are set to meet later this week.
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And there is Merkel running to defuse the situation as fast as possible. He can say whatever he wants and all is forgiven.
 
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CTLance

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Geez, won't someone please stop spiking his drinking water with hallucinogens.

Anyway, this is a surefire way to really piss off German politicians. Then again, the related fallout is exactly what he wants, so ... yeah.
 
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Kinyou

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“Your practices are not different from the Nazi practices of the past,” Erdogan said of Germany at a women’s rally in Istanbul,
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I worry about what a women's rally looks like that has Erdogan speaking
 
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2San

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Kayhan said:
Erdoğan is a ridiculous clown. Well, good job ensuring Turkey will never join the EU.
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I agree on Edogan, but EU was never going to let Turkey no matter what they do, with the level of Islamophobia atm there would definitely be a country that would veto.
 
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Chairmanchuck

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Zatoth said:
To get the votes of the Turks that live in Germany.
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I dont even get why people in Germany would vote for him, when they have free internet, free speech, wont just get replaced etc.

But there is a pretty huge defense force for him here in the turkish community that lives in Germany, that enjoys exactly the stuff that he is slowly removing in Turkey...
 
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Sho_Nuff82

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The vote he's campaigning for would expand the powers of his presidency, and he's the one throwing out Nazi insults?

This guy.
 
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2San

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Chairmanchuck said:
I dont even get why people in Germany would vote for him, when they have free internet, free speech, wont just get replaced etc.

But there is a pretty huge defense force for him here in the turkish community that lives in Germany, that enjoys exactly the stuff that he is slowly removing in Turkey...
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Immigrant communities can be more conservative than their country of origin as they take their values from the time that they left, while the country itself can become more progressive.
 
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commedieu

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Sho_Nuff82 said:
The vote he's campaigning for would expand the powers of his presidency, and he's the one throwing out Nazi insults?

This guy.
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For whatever reason turkey has everyone by the balls/ovaries. Erogan has nudes of everyone / using refugees as a deterrent..

It's really par for the course of 201+ people aren't being checked anymore for shit they say or do. Its insane to watch.
 
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Benjamin1981

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Hopefully Merkel won't fall for those comments. Turkey should do their campaigning on turkish soil and not in our country. It's none of our business and just creates turmoil.
 
Daria Morgendorffer

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Same thing is happening here in the Netherlands, Turkey's Foreign Affairs? minister was going to speak here on the 11th, but the government doesn't really want to give them a platform here.
 
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Muffin1611

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CTLance said:
Geez, won't someone please stop spiking his drinking water with hallucinogens.

Anyway, this is a surefire way to really piss off German politicians. Then again, the related fallout is exactly what he wants, so ... yeah.
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Yeah. Pretty sure he just wanted something that deflects from him not releasing that German-Turkish journalist.

And Merkel won't stand against it because of the "danger" of him breaking agreement and letting through more refugees again. Ugh.
 
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Diancecht said:
CHP and HDP has 35 percent of the votes.
His fuckbudies MHP are crumbling from inside and a lot id AKP voters aren't gonna vote for this regime change. It's is a possibility, yes.
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I dont see how AKP people aren't voting for AKP. Probably a very, very minority few.
 
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Steel

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I could totally see this exactly sequence of events happening with Trump. Like almost word for word, just replace Erdogan with Trump and Turkey with the U.S.

Why did so many Trump-like leaders emerge around the same time?
 
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GAMEPROFF

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Another important information, in germany, this kind of events are organized on a local level, so unless Merkel phones the small arranger in the public service, the government had no involvement.
Also, there was a bomb threat for the town hall after the first event was canceled by the town government. But I guess Erdogan thinks thats fine.
 
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Guy.brush

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Steel said:
I could totally see this exactly sequence of events happening with Trump. Like almost word for word, just replace Erdogan with Trump and Turkey with the U.S.
Why did so many Trump-like leaders emerge around the same time?
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Easy answer:
Part1: Politicians thought it to be in their and their system's best interest to keep the populace relatively dumb and under constant toxic propaganda. Educated enough to cast a ballot every few years for the choice they are seeing day in day out on their favorite state sponsored TV network/social network, but please lets not have them educated an inch more than that.
Problem is that the global uneducation and intoxination level has reached critical levels and is causing some serious blowback to the systems that thought it to be ok.

Part2: The system of globalist capitalism is failing and the intertwined modern world has become fucking complicated. People rally behind any populist that promises them easy answers to complex questions that only they with their simple solution can solve. And because of Part1, Part2 has success.
People got so dumb they would vote for the next clown if he explains the world in simple terms for them and pretends their lives and desires mean something again.
 
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RamzaIsCool

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Frustrated_me said:
I dont see how AKP people aren't voting for AKP. Probably a very, very minority few.
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The AKP voters base consists of various groups and ideologies. The hardcore AKP lemmings probably don't exceed the 25% (religious conservatives) and even then there is a part of them who are iffy on this referendum. Just look to the Saadet Party (hardcore İslamist Party who got around 2-ish% of the votes), they are squarely against it. The other chunks of the AKP voters are nationalists who were generally disgrunted MHP voters and Conservative Kurds (50% of the Kurds in Turkey vote AKP). Both those groups vote AKP simply because of lack of alternatives. Don't see their vote as lock either.
 
Caayn

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Isn't Erdogan trying to make himself Sultan? Can he explain what's democratic about that and altering the law in his personal favour?
 
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GAMEPROFF

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Caayn said:
Isn't Erdogan trying to make himself Sultan? Can he explain what's democratic about that and altering the law in his personal favour?
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Its always the other who are at fault. Also, this is gernany where he is angry at, so Nazi-Accusations are the easiest way to talk shit.
 
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oti

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The funny thing about this is that one of those rallies was deceivingly booked as a club meeting for 400 people lol. The German authorities found out the Turks lied, so they canceled. A day later the town hall received a bomb threat so they had to evacuate.

Just to add some context to this shitshow.
 
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