SLB1904
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what?Being petty? Didn’t you just down play Persona 5 Royal because it may be coming to Xbox?
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ESRB has rated The Medium for PS5
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
It's a fun little game that steals/borrows ideas from various Mario games for sure, but it's also something you finish in one sitting. I'd be up for a full game.No need when you can play Astro's Playroom right now.
GuinGuin
Banned
RoboEight
Member
The medium was a fun game for what it is. Story was alright and the world was really well done there are some beautiful set pieces in the game. It's nice that more people will get a chance to play it and I'm sure it'll be some more nice adittional sales for Bloober team. Personally I don't know if I'd pay $80 for it but if it comes out at a decent price it's worth a play.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I've been playing games since the 80's and Mario has never impressed me.
Well, seems like Team Asobi don't agree! You'd have to not have played any Mario games since SM64 to not see the very obvious influences. There's the Sunshine hovering, the Galaxy skating on ice, etc.
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GuinGuin
Banned
Mario didn't invent those concepts.
Hayabusabruh
Member
Nope. Look up Madison Beer and you'll know what I'm trying to say.That's her name? LMAO. I'm not seeing it.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I didn't see them in a 3D platformer before that, at least not in that way (which Astrobot copied almost 1:1). But if you have examples, let's see them. Maybe I'm wrong.
LostDonkey
Member
Missed out
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
That is kind of here or there because it is not a direct quote. That is the writer’s saying that and then quoting the actual statement. Can also sound like the writer’s interpretation of what Ryan must have meant.
Ryan is at fault for not contacting the author and getting that edited differently. You can say he omitted the fact that there would be cross generation games too, but then again Spider-man was revealed to be cross generation before launch and PS’s history has plenty of big games released for a previous generation console when the new model is already out on the market: you want to seriously state you expected them not to release even a single title for PS4 once PS5 was out considering all the previous generational transitions?
Feels like we have a bit of different standards applied to/expected from the two companies on the “transparency angle”… but anyways…
Yeah, I am happy to discuss on the actual quote instead of “oh yeah, well that was BS fine, but hear this…”. Maybe that quote will stop being posted without context trying to troll people.
The machine is still offering new content exclusive to PS5 that pushes it. New games are coming out on PS4 and enhanced on PS5 which is not too too dissimilar from what they did in many of their previous transitions (PS3 to PS4 did not have BC to help transition players, so they went with remasters). Without a global chip shortage and much higher sales of PS5 we may have seen less cross generation games too but we may have still seen some.
Demon’s Souls, Astro’s Play Room, Returnal, and Ratchet & Clank are a quite nice pack of PS5 of PS5 exclusives in the console launch window. We can keep trying to twist things and talk about dishonesty, hyperbolic pro and anti consumer statements, or see what they actually have done. Mountains and molehills pretending to have the high mora ground.
The console brought new features on top of HW power and had exclusive games showing them off. On top of that, we are seeing cross generation ganes take advantage of these new features: haptics, adaptive triggers, etc…
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
They keep flip-flopping. Timed-exclusives are the devil until Xbox do it.But I thought Xbox fans hated timed exclusive practice
Acquisitions are fine tho, even for multiplatforms games that are in development for years. MS snatches them up at the end of the development cycle and it becomes a first-party exclusive. Celebration everywhere! This is good!
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
No surprise as it was always a timed console exclusive. Thought it was for a year but appears to be six months.
Great Hair
Banned
"Was wondering: .. now due the faster SSD of the PS5, they might be able and will prolly speed up the game?"
namekuseijin
Banned
looks like gamepass is success
Katt”BuckNasty”Johnston
Member
lol I legitimately forgot Godfall even came out
I'm thought it woulda happened sooner. I know the devs kinda danced around this. This is around 6 months tho, maybe this was always the plan and they just didnt wanna say anything.
Things change. GT7 was also listed as a PS5 exclusive.So, seriously, what are we calling bullshit on? The ESRB rating or what MS has written on their website?
I expect to see ESRB rating for Starfield, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout for PS5 in the coming years ...
At this point, expect the unexpected.
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PropellerEar
Member
Your well know hate( secret desire) for Sony/PlayStation like games is leaking out.
GuinGuin
Banned
Never saw the reason for the hype, however, I am not into horror games.
What hype there was existed because it was an exclusive. If it wasn't I doubt most people would even know it existed.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Yeah awful 3rd-person walkie-talkie simulator until they are on GP then they are good lol. Some posters here with famous reputations should be embarrassed.
yurinka
Member
I thought it was a full console exclusive, but I assume that today all these 3rd party indie/AA exclusives are timed on all sides. It looked pretty meh to me, but I think it's always good to bring games to as much as games as possible.
I prefer to have 3rd party exclusives on all sides as timed console exclusives intead of full exclusives or full console exclusives, I think it's better for everyone.
I prefer to have 3rd party exclusives on all sides as timed console exclusives intead of full exclusives or full console exclusives, I think it's better for everyone.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I bought it despite it being on GamePass as it was from a small studio and seemed to be a solid and passionate effort from them. Glad I could support it
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Derktron
Banned
dcmk7
Banned
This is strange, you sure had no problem at all when Microsoft attempted to silently increase the price of Xbox Live Gold recently. In fact you defended it.
Doesn't sound like they were very up front with their customers in that instance.. Does it now?
You're obviously biased and therefore hypocritical. But don't make it so blatant.
SkylineRKR
Member
Played it for a bit on Series S through GP, its mediocre. Didn't expect this game to come to PS5 nor did I care. Not going to play it again anyway. Its no classic Silent Hill thats for sure.
smart_brazileiro
Banned
Nice. I'm definitely gonna buy this. Was thinking about getting it for PC but I think it runs like ass on my rig. (Ryzen 5 3600 and a RX5700XT overclocked + the obligatory 16gb ram.)
Or...how about when Matt Booty (and later Phil Spencer) straight up said, no Series exclusives for the first 2 years (1 to 2 years) certain folks bent over into backwards pretzels trying to say they meant something else, and tried to count 2019 because Booty said it in 2019, lol. He said family of consoles....there was no family until Nov 2020....because a One X game is an XBO game.....
.......They were completely open about it, and some ppl didnt even wanna believe it....
The same ppl that defend cross gen to death in the first 2 years conveniently forget the PS5 exclusives that are out right now and coming next week trying to do an 'I told ya so'
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Stuart360
Member
You could say the same with a few other exclusives recently too.
GHG
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
hence why some smaller AA games from smaller dev teams choose exclusivity deals. It gets you exposure, and gamepass got this game in front of potential 18 million or so game players at the time. It was blooper teams most successful launch I believe. Not an amazing game but well worth the gamepass weekend bash.
6 month exclusivity is kind of perfect for games in my opinion. means Fans on other platforms don’t have to wait too long.
Oddvintagechap
Member
Ill take the offer. Zoom, Teamviewer, or Tiger VNC?
DarkMage619
$MSFT
"One way to keep PS4 users engaged would be to make upcoming PS5 games playable on the older machine, just like Microsoft is proposing with its Xbox Series X games being playable on Xbox One." That was the direct quote. If the intent of the quote was to indicate they would do the same thing as MS how did the author get it so wrong? Otherwise there does not seem to be a significant difference between what Sony and MS are doing in that regard except MS has focused on improving the way those cross generational titles have run without asking user to pay more for the opportunity. Using haptics and triggers is just like using the SSD and more powerful GPU. Again the difference is that you get access to those features on Xbox without having to have the game specifically coded to take advantage of it.That is kind of here or there because it is not a direct quote. That is the writer’s saying that and then quoting the actual statement. Can also sound like the writer’s interpretation of what Ryan must have meant.
Ryan is at fault for not contacting the author and getting that edited differently. You can say he omitted the fact that there would be cross generation games too, but then again Spider-man was revealed to be cross generation before launch and PS’s history has plenty of big games released for a previous generation console when the new model is already out on the market: you want to seriously state you expected them not to release even a single title for PS4 once PS5 was out considering all the previous generational transitions?
Feels like we have a bit of different standards applied to/expected from the two companies on the “transparency angle”… but anyways…
Yeah, I am happy to discuss on the actual quote instead of “oh yeah, well that was BS fine, but hear this…”. Maybe that quote will stop being posted without context trying to troll people.
The machine is still offering new content exclusive to PS5 that pushes it. New games are coming out on PS4 and enhanced on PS5 which is not too too dissimilar from what they did in many of their previous transitions (PS3 to PS4 did not have BC to help transition players, so they went with remasters). Without a global chip shortage and much higher sales of PS5 we may have seen less cross generation games too but we may have still seen some.
Demon’s Souls, Astro’s Play Room, Returnal, and Ratchet & Clank are a quite nice pack of PS5 of PS5 exclusives in the console launch window. We can keep trying to twist things and talk about dishonesty, hyperbolic pro and anti consumer statements, or see what they actually have done. Mountains and molehills pretending to have the high mora ground.
The console brought new features on top of HW power and had exclusive games showing them off. On top of that, we are seeing cross generation ganes take advantage of these new features: haptics, adaptive triggers, etc…
I do think it is quite odd that people assume that the author of the piece just made stuff up and assumed that Jim Ryan was planning on following the same cross generational game plan MS stated they would take at the outset. Clearly some on this very forum though that 'we believe in generations' meant PS5 games would only be on PS5 and not that PS5 games would obviously have PS4 versions made. If that was the case its funny that only MS received backlash while Sony was praised. Strange indeed. Oh well it's cool that it was clarified eventually despite the authors mistakes.
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CamHostage
Member
Nice. The Medium was always all-but-confirmed to be a timed exclusive, it's a good-enough game within its genre (couldn't withstand the weight of hype of course but if you like adventures, have at) and might be the start of a franchise, and it did its job well for that platform. (Is it still technically the only "Xbox S/X-console exclusive" game released on the platform or has another indie shared that badge yet?) So, it's a good release strategy all around, Bloober played this well and it'll have its place on PS5 while doing whatever business it does on Xbox.
If it helps anybody get over this weird "lies!!" betrayal feeling about timed exclusives, know that I will be super fucking jealous every wretched second I see my Xbox friends playing The Ascent and I'll just be there with my PlayStation hoping and praying that it'll one day come to my console of choice... And then, I'll be playing Kena, and maybe those sad green bastards will feel the same way...
And I still don't have FF7 Pocket to play on my Switch...
If it helps anybody get over this weird "lies!!" betrayal feeling about timed exclusives, know that I will be super fucking jealous every wretched second I see my Xbox friends playing The Ascent and I'll just be there with my PlayStation hoping and praying that it'll one day come to my console of choice... And then, I'll be playing Kena, and maybe those sad green bastards will feel the same way...
I'm still surprised how long Square Enix has managed to keep FF VII-R an exclusive. I thought for sure when Intergrade was announced that that would be the open-floodgates point where the chapters expanded to PC and Xboxes (probably just Series X in this case,) but instead it remains only in the PlayStation ecosystem for now (and only PS5, going forward, although who knows if PS4 will be anything but a memory by the time FF7 R2 is out?)
And I still don't have FF7 Pocket to play on my Switch...
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dcmk7
Banned
It's not a direct quote from Jim Ryan.
You've been told this already.
Why ignore the correction?
Spidey Fan
Banned
i doubt that will comeout soon. ff7 is squares egg, after avengers disaster. they can resell the game again on ps5 with the dlc bundle, and people will buy it (i would have bought it, if werent on ps+).
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
They can have it.
Spidey Fan
Banned
does anyone believe ceo words? werent something like with something cyber, something potato, something delisted. Spencer or Ryan, i wouldnt take their words in face value. While spencer is a gamer, he is a business man. Jimmy is born business man. The man has policy to pay royalty for cross play. that is definition of businessman. Both are there to try to sell you a product. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am just waiting this E3. We will see, if spencer actions paid of, or was he just talking. Jimmy used the old money cash, big house tactic for party. So ps5 has exclusive ready of the bat, compared to the college guy spencer, who come from wrecked house, trying to make a party in his house.
At this point, i dont know what the F i am talking. thank you guys for making me confused.
VolticArchangel
Member
Jokes and memes apart, these guys made Layers of Fear and Observer, both good games. I still haven't played this and have mixed thoughts on this. Comments in this thread and the general consensus online are pretty much identical. Some of my friends on Xbox are saying that it's pretty monotonous in gameplay and the ending is bad/unsatisfactory (this is subjective, so let's give Bloober the benefit of the doubt here).
I do, I have gamepass, and still reluctant to try this one out. Not just because of my backlog and other games I regularly play, but because the core game loop of this revolves around walking and puzzle solving and minimal combat, and most of all, not keeping the player engaged being very slow paced. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the concept of simultaneous dual worlds, that's unique/impressive and a technical showcase for sure, but to support that you need to have engaging gameplay, say for example something like Alien Isolation (minus the dual worlds part).
I initially thought Death Stranding was just another walking sim with a weird story, but absolutely loved the game loop involved in when I got to play it, the world building to resource management, melee combat, driving, (whatever) weapon based combat it had, mechanical complexity and everything till the end was a wild ride, and keeps you not stop in the middle. I couldn't say the same for some of naughty dog's games even post UC1 or at best, 2. Perhaps it's their same linear pattern game worlds with set piece explosions that you get bored too quickly.
The only draw for me into this game, is Akira Yamaoka and their (Bloober's) confession of getting inspired from SH2. I'm not sure if you've played the first 3 Silent Hill games, but they almost follow a same flowchart cue of off-branch (psychological) horror, but the events that happen as you progress, keep you engaged till the end, and not quit. I just don't want to start Medium, play for a couple of hours and go "it's boring, I'll finish it later" and it gets added to my mountainous multi-generational backlog.
I'll definitely play this though. Grab a few beers, sit a weekend out and binge it till the end, or not play at all. That's the only way.
I do, I have gamepass, and still reluctant to try this one out. Not just because of my backlog and other games I regularly play, but because the core game loop of this revolves around walking and puzzle solving and minimal combat, and most of all, not keeping the player engaged being very slow paced. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the concept of simultaneous dual worlds, that's unique/impressive and a technical showcase for sure, but to support that you need to have engaging gameplay, say for example something like Alien Isolation (minus the dual worlds part).
I initially thought Death Stranding was just another walking sim with a weird story, but absolutely loved the game loop involved in when I got to play it, the world building to resource management, melee combat, driving, (whatever) weapon based combat it had, mechanical complexity and everything till the end was a wild ride, and keeps you not stop in the middle. I couldn't say the same for some of naughty dog's games even post UC1 or at best, 2. Perhaps it's their same linear pattern game worlds with set piece explosions that you get bored too quickly.
The only draw for me into this game, is Akira Yamaoka and their (Bloober's) confession of getting inspired from SH2. I'm not sure if you've played the first 3 Silent Hill games, but they almost follow a same flowchart cue of off-branch (psychological) horror, but the events that happen as you progress, keep you engaged till the end, and not quit. I just don't want to start Medium, play for a couple of hours and go "it's boring, I'll finish it later" and it gets added to my mountainous multi-generational backlog.
I'll definitely play this though. Grab a few beers, sit a weekend out and binge it till the end, or not play at all. That's the only way.
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Dr. Suchong
Member
"B-bu-but Gunk!"
It isn't really though. Both split-screen and multi-view horror games existed before.
It's a new coat of paint on the idea by making two views more visually distinct, but that's about it.
It's rough on hw but the bigger problem is that even when framerate is stable, update never is. It always feels uneven and lower than it actually is. It's not a big deal for the type of game it is, but it bothered me as it ruins otherwise really nice presentation.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I'm not sure whether you'll like this game or not. It's more of a puzzle game with a great creepy, eerie atmosphere and really cool mechanics with the dual-world thing. and personally I really liked the story but a lot of other people did not. I will say it's more of a walking sim than even the Uncharted games so that could be a big negative for you, but so are Layers of Fear and The Observer. For me it was the best game from Bloober to date. I would say if it does end up on PS+ give a try and see if you like it.
Yselacrey00
Banned
I
I really don't get it. FFVIIR would have sold at least a couple million on Xbox at $60 each that's easily so how much did Square got paid for this?
I really don't get it. FFVIIR would have sold at least a couple million on Xbox at $60 each that's easily so how much did Square got paid for this?
Spidey Fan
Banned
its a notion that rpg dont sell well on xbox, so they are afraid of their sales. ff7 is big golden goose, that playstation fans want to shill tons of money for part 1. both companies dont want to lose that sale. I hope it comes to pc at least, if it doesnt come on xbox.