They way people jump to conclusions around here is ridiculous
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
- Thread starter Saty
- Start date
They way people jump to conclusions around here is ridiculous
Are you saying that based on your inside information or the tweets?
I wouldn't doubt him so quickly.
He mentioned he works at a bank once, and noticing his replies on various threads.... HE KNOWS EVERYTHING =O
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Oh I thought they changed again
Sony: "We will kill the competition!" They could have models walking through JC Penny with them.
Ok joke done.
Agree with all this, exactly what I see happening. I'm not quite sure how Kinect got popular and i'm not entirely sure its as popular as MS thinks it is, just more or less shoved down peoples throat. Still they are going to push it even harder out the gate with Durango and will be their focus, games second no matter what they may say. Make no mistake MS intent from the very beginning even with the OG Xbox was to trojan horse their way into the living room and take over.
StealthGoblin
Banned
If he's in London, there'll be PS4 meetings between developers. Seeing how much input EU developers have had on the PS4, I suspect the initial showing will be SCEE game intensive.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Yoshida is in London right now, related to that?
Nice. Hope we get some damn game leaks instead of just system stuff.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
IonicSnake
Banned
It all makes sense now, Yoshida is the PS4!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
No chance
I agree with you, I was just trying to explain why Proelite's latest power comment was interesting to people who didn't know. I've been pretty vocal about wanting hardware parity for a long time, although I have to admit I can't help but get a little excited at the prospect of Orbis being a bit more powerful given some of the port jobs PS3 owners got this gen. Looking back I think Proelite was commenting on which would be the best choice for a one console gamer and not in terms of power, which would also make sense considering Sony's first party output.
well, it's a little more interesting than just FLOPS. rumours suggest durango will house 32MB of eDRAM which would roughly translate to 100 GB/S of bandwidth. this would mean each frame can contain a maximum of 3.3GBs of data at 30FPS or half that at 60FPS.
while modern high end GPUs can push 300 GB/s, it's rumoured that the orbis is capable of 192 GB/S, facilitated by its plentiful fast ram and wide bus. what does this mean? it means that combined with the greater render grunt that a 1.8TFLOP GPU provides over a 1.2TFLOP GPU based on the same architecture, theoretically the same amount of data can be carried nearly twice as fast (higher framerates), or twice the data can be carried in one trip (higher resolutions/image complexity).
shinra-bansho
Member
Do you mean the eventual unveiling?
I expect Guerilla Games work will showcased, as will whatever Mm have been cooking up (which may or may not actually be a game) but I imagine Naughty Dog and Santa Monica will feature prominently.
There's a press tour too.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
You guys aren't seeing anything till E3, best get used to that.
Apple TV was born out of arrogance and thinking they could sell on name alone. Closed/Walled Garden environment, expensive compare to competition that does similar things and more efficiently (I can get a Roku for $50) and the majority of that functionality built into consoles that people already own.
The Ouya sounds like something Apple would take as a next step (except they wouldn't sell theirs for $99 in a million years) but I don't see that doing very well for Apple either. If someone is going to spend that much money on something they are going to have to hook up to their TV it better do more then just run the app store on their TV.
I think the real threat from Apple for home entertainment is their rumored Apple TV. If it was reasonably priced, emphasis on reasonable, communicates wirelessly with Ipad, iphone, ipod, macbook, etc out of the box streaming everything including all apps and games, that would be something.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
6 hour conference?
shinra-bansho
Member
The PS4 will likely be revealed at a separate "PlayStation Meeting" event, presumably prior.
Oh are we referring to an actual Apple television set?
Wanna bet?
Graphics Horse
Member
More like Vita price cut inbound, Killzone and Tearaway shown off to press. 
I think he was referring to gameplay. I definitely think there will be an event that'll show the console/UI/final name and a few game teasers but we won't see any games until the big show.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Well before then.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Sure. Can't do ban bets so what do you have in mind.
Very much doubt that. One company will want to get a head start over the other in revealing their console, it just depends who it is.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I'm only talking about Sony.
£10 to child's play charity.
Leaks of said console count too*. But I think they will officially announce it too.
* like pics of console..
Good shout on the charity.
But leaks shouldn't count IMO.
FWIW, I expect some sort of official announcement by one/both before E3.
I can step in as intermediary.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Ah kk. Just saw Yoshida's tweet and then zomg's post here. I need to read the thread :/
No, I meant proper pics of said console... Hours before e3..
But I reckon official announcements will be made long before that.
shinra-bansho
Member
I imagine the rollout would go something like:
- Reveal hardware design, some specs - maybe vague, show new UI. Final name PS4, because anything else is a poor choice really.
- Possibly show some sort of tech demo/game teasers.
- Reveal a bit about network and other services.
- Have Yosp/first-party devs talk up the hardware potential in interviews etc. in the interim leading into E3.
- E3 games blowout; announce price, release date.
Dreams-Visions
Member
understood. that's...a lot. On PC that's about 2 years worth of performance difference (assuming equal prices). Give or take. At minimum, the framerates should always be noticeably better on PS3 versions of multiplat titles, with potentially a few more effects added I would expect. But if they lock the fps in games like they generally do now, the difference may not be appreciable.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
LOL good one! Apple TV a "threat".
I'm down but leaks don't count. This is Sony after all
Hmm.. Fair enough.
That's what I'm expecting too, especially if they do wait until May like that recent interview stated. Keep the hype going for the month leading up to E3 and use Last of Us to hype up their first party offerings, then hit us with games at the show. No need to spend time on tech demos or boring stuff.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
There is a slight chance we will get something at GDC but I believe anything related to the next system will be only shown in closed door presentations.
Dreams-Visions
Member
AppleTV is selling just fine. It's a pet project -- not a focal point -- and an unusually solid supplemental purchase for anyone who owns an Apple product that can take advantage of its AirPlay feature. It's not a threat to consoles, unless people are only buying consoles to watch Netflix and stream their computer desktop to their TV or some such.
grimshawish
Banned
By this stage its just a meme. Its no threat.
No, I meant proper pics of said console... Hours before e3..
But I reckon official announcements will be made long before that.
Ahh, gotcha.
It's on!
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Just like the Vita reveal. Specs and design first, drip feed some info till E3, then reveal the price and launch titles along with some tech demos at E3.
I want them to wait for E3 just cause I think it would be amazing to see all the crazy shit stuffed into one conference, but there are an awful lot of rumors pointing to GDC for a public reveal.
It makes 0 sense,that has never happened before either,if Sony wants it's console announcement to make an impact it has to show games at the unveiling.
GDC will likely give us an idea of what some next gen engines are going for and we'll likely get a few leaks from behind closed doors conferences but it's not a venue for announcing a console. A lot of people there will already have devkits.
Yea, there was a gaf thread, maybe a month or so ago in OT. I believe its still in the rumor stages.
edit: not seeing it in gaf search but heres a snippet from wired.