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Every next gen game should have 40fps 120hz mode. Damn it's so nice.
- Thread starter ABrokenToy
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Who cares! Why would I want to game on a monitor?
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Swift_Star
Banned
What a bad post. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Exactly, imo Ratchet suffers from soap opera look at 60fps, not to mention noticable reduction in vfx. The 40fps mode is stunningly perfect.
Options are good.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
In a world with VRR I rather have my fps unlocked. 40hz is cool in the world PS5 don't have VRR but now?
TheContact
Member
I haven't tried 40fps 144hz but I can't even do 4K/60 because 1080p/144+ is a much better experience for me despite the downgrade is visuals. FF7 on PC is a great example of this. I tried it on my 4K monitor and loved how much better it looked but once you start to move around and control the camera it's like bleh no thanks.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Mr Moose
Member
Good news! It's for 120Hz screens, not 60Hz. It's even in the title.
40fps cap for 120Hz screens while keeping the 30fps graphical settings, 40+ with VRR.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Shit, you can't connect a PC to a TV? Damn what a backwards platform!
See how annoying you felt responding to my post? Now imagine how annoying it feels to see the "so-called" PC gamer jump into a thread like this requesting that we play on PC, instead of 40 fps on our consoles.
Swift_Star
Banned
Yeah I don't understand why is it so difficulty for pc gamers to grasp the fact that we don't want to play on PC.
StateofMajora
Banned
It's ok for casuals but 60 should really be the minimum and also 120fps modes would be more appreciated 
MidGenRefresh
Banned
Lysandros
Member
It's not just about resolution, they can also push more geometry, physics, lighting, shadows etc. at 30 FPS. This is where the advantage of 40 FPS lies, it combines the graphical fidelity of 30 FPS with the superior smoothness and input latency of substantially higher refresh rate. A win win situation essentially.
nominedomine
Banned
A game will never be made aiming at 40fps, at most it will be an additional mode since it requires the TV to support 120hz. For every game released so far that has offered multiple options the gains you get at 30fps or 40fps do not justify the reduced framerate in any way.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Then keep "begging" for basic features. Why should I try to help/give advice, right?
Swift_Star
Banned
Not interested.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Oh you should defo play on PC if it's a multiplat game on launch date and you have a high-end rig.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Good catch. HDMI VRR doesn't work at 40 fps.
intheinbetween
Member
Nice to have when you can't afford 60fps
yamaci17
Member
"And if the games can already run at rock-solid 40 that means we're just this close to 60,"
lol
no
dunno why the prospect of 40 fps modes triggers some people this much
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Elder Legend
Banned
So you want to play at 40 FPS for a fake 60 FPS experience at 120 hertz. Sure.....I see you been on your meds a bit too much lately there billy.
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Swift_Star
Banned
I swear people should REALLY educate themselves in this matter. The disinformation is embarrassing at this point.
yamaci17
Member
lets be honest with ourselves, aside from niche people like me, most "PCMR" mindset people would not play at 40 fps or whatsoever. prospect of having a smooth 40 fps on their 120 hz screen would be herecy to them. i know, bcoz i suggested the method to couple of my friends, they instead opted lower res/settings and higher fps and i completely respect that
%90 folk wont buy/build pc to get 40 fps/120 hz. it is fantastic for niche people like me though. have i used it personally? i used it in mafia 3 to get a clean, native 4k, since my gpu was not enough to push 4k/60 fps. i was seeing frames between 45-53, decided to hit that sweet 40 fps with low input lag. i also maxxed out Cyberpunk and its RT @4K DLSS Quality and had to resort to 40 fps but it was a damn fine experience. MUUCH better than 30 fps (you can ask why i didn't go the 1440p route. well, game looks bad at 1440p regardless how maximum teh settings are. just like rdr 2, cyberpunk is reliant on 4k lods/assets to look at its best)
i also played valhalla with a 40 fps lock on my gamepad, i can say that i could make some people believe it is 60 fps if they were to come over to me and played it on my setup. it was that good and smooth.
though my motivation to get a 120 hz panel was never the 40 fps mode. it came as a bonus. my initial motivation was that i noticed i can comfortably get 120 fps on many FPS shooters, and also i enjoy playing them a lot, so it was a worth investment on lots of fronts. i cannot even think of returning to any kind of 60 hz screen anymore. i'm happy 120 hz serves more purpose than having 90-120 fps in games though
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I would not use too. Unlocked forever.
rofif
Banned
Yes, it is nice but it's not a deal breaker if the game is 30.
I would just love for stupid nondescript modes to go away.
Just make the game as is and include "fps cap off" setting for vrr users. Thats it.
Otherwise we get stuff like 6 bad modes in ghostwire tokyo or Horizon FW 2 ... they should just focus on 1 mode
I would just love for stupid nondescript modes to go away.
Just make the game as is and include "fps cap off" setting for vrr users. Thats it.
Otherwise we get stuff like 6 bad modes in ghostwire tokyo or Horizon FW 2 ... they should just focus on 1 mode
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yamaci17
Member
nah i became too sensitive for %99 GPU load input lag at this point. unless a game has Nvidia's reflex implementation, i have to make do with a frame limiter . it was refreshing to be able to play god of war with %99 gpu util at all times, unlocked framerate with minimum gpu bound input lag though. sadly, reflex on aaa narrative driven games seems like a rare sighting. i would like cyberpunk to have it, at least... god of war of all games implemented it...
You can force reflex into every game with Special K... but even that is out of my reach. i just want native implementation and not rely on 3rd party mods for this kind of thing
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Decontamination Silo
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's ok for casuals but 60 should really be the minimum and also 120fps modes would be more appreciated
60 fps should NEVER be the minimum. Minimum standards like this for video games are stupid. It's a creative medium. Stop trying to get in the way!
StateofMajora
Banned
Swift_Star
Banned
And who are you exactly to dictate what devs should do? They're free to do whatever they feel its right for their vision.
lukilladog
Member
I still play skyrim at 37fps/74hz, it´s awesome to keep throwing mods at it and still get perfectly even and smooth fps.
StateofMajora
Banned
Sure. Doesn't mean they're appreciating the strengths of the medium and designing their games as such.
MightySquirrel
Banned
So instead of pointing at OP's mistake you try to bash PC chads?
40fps with VRR on = 40 Hz.
MightySquirrel
Banned
Fact. Just cap fps to 40 on VRR display and boom you can enjoy blurry gaming.
rickybooby87
Member
40FPS is where it's at. Obviously 60FPS is better, hands down. But, 40FPS allows us retain higher resolutions/image quality that would otherwise be sacrificed to maintain a stable, steady 60FPS with the added benefit of an additional 10FPS which makes a world of a difference and reduced input latency.
Literally every TV sold in the last 5-10 years is 120hz capable. Also, no one is saying, abolish 60 for 40. But, make 40 a supported minimum.
Literally every TV sold in the last 5-10 years is 120hz capable. Also, no one is saying, abolish 60 for 40. But, make 40 a supported minimum.
ParaSeoul
Member
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
This creative medium is interative, and frame rate affects input latency that less = better.
i think i noticed a difference when i turned on vrr on unsupported games on my ps5. it has a more clear picture during motion .maybe its placebo effect but i think even 30 fps games look more clear in motion
its not about higher fps but hrtz on tv120fps minimum or it's not next-gen. Gotta compete with the PC master race.
60 fps has ben used as a band aid fix to blurry tv motion screens , hrtz and vrr are more impactful fix
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Actually, quite the opposite. People dont want to downgrade the graphics fidelity of 30 fps modes just to get a stable 60 fps. This is about higher standards and higher expectations from the fidelity modes. Too many games have shipped with 1080p 60 fps modes this gen. Fuck that.
nominedomine
Banned
60fps is used because most TVs are 60hz. Devs could still aim for 60fps and allow people with VRR to uncap it.
Targeting 30fps or 40fps these days, I don't know... it would have to be something truly spectacular to justify that. The best looking PS5 games all have 60fps modes.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah, but it wasnt until the most recent HDMI 2.1 TVs came out in 2020 did we start getting 4k 120 hz modes. Before that, enabling 120 hz mode would downgrade the resolution to 1080p in most sets defeating the entire point of a fidelity 40 fps mode.