The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
and that's sonys fault?!?
how about box gamers demand better from ms?
It's Sonys fault they make the classical mistake to be arrogant because they don't have any competition at all.
and that's sonys fault?!?
how about box gamers demand better from ms?
4. Sony gets away with anti consumerism, and people love it.
5. When Sony kills off Microsoft and Nintendo runs their own weird show, they have monopoly and can give us even worse anti consumer practice. Yay.
Monopoly is never a good thing. Competition pushes the industry, and sadly, Sony hasn't had any competition this entire generation.
I always get all consoles, price is not a factor, I just prefer that extra mile Sony put in. Stuff like this you just dont get elsewhere.
Sony do what they believe is best for their customers and try to take care of them as best as possible.
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Sony does what they believe is best for Sony lol.
It’s very clear you don’t know what consumer even means and what are anti-consumer and which are not.Sony paying to keep otherwise Multiplatform games off other consoles is anti consumer. You have to be so deep in the fanboy mindset to argue it isn’t.
also lol at you thinking the RROD is anti consumer lol. Shows where your mind is at.
A company paying to take a product away from consumers is anti-consumer. The fact that you don't understand this says all that needs to be said.It’s very clear you don’t know what consumer even means and what are anti-consumer and which are not.
So if you buy xbox? Which consumer you will fall in to? What company is responsible for you to enjoy xbox? Don’t ignore this and answer me.
There’s no anti-consumer when a platform holder wants to give you incentive to buy their platform. You have the option to buy it or not.
As a consumer I want you to give me reason to buy your product. If PS5 will have all the gams I want I will buy it vice versa for MS.
Please, RROD fiasco was anti consumer for MS they release a half bake product in order to beat Sony and only admitted fault when it becomes a widespread thing. They know the problem exist and should have been tested more. Imagined the people that wasn’t covered by the warranty that was forced to buy a new one.
A company paying to take a product away from consumers is anti-consumer. The fact that you don't understand this says all that needs to be said.
You also clearly don't understand what was wrong with the RROD if you think it was anti-consumer. It was one of the first consumer products in the world that used the new lead-free solder, and that lead-free solder turned out to not be strong enough for gaming consoles. The YLOD was the exact same thing. It wasn't an anti-consumer problem lol. In fact their handling of the RROD was pro-consumer, offering extended warranties and free replacements.
You can't showcase 120fps on a screenshot, just saying. Just like you cannot showcase it on a PS5.What is the best performing system, remind me again ?
You can't showcase 120fps on a screenshot, just saying. Just like you cannot showcase it on a PS5.
What has 343 has anything to do with it? But to answer your "in the topic" question. They were probably building the engine
Again. If you think, PS vs. Xbox+PC+Stadia will have 70% share, you are just plain fanboy with rose tinted glasses.
You can't showcase 120fps on a screenshot, just saying. Just like you cannot showcase it on a PS5.
And Sony is putting the interest of their consumer base above their business. They're adding value for their customer. This is what an engaging business does.Anti consumer by definition is putting the interests of the business over the interests of the consumer. What you just said is anti consumer.
No, it’s not ok lol. I never said it is. It’s anti consumer too.
ITT: Sony fanboys that don’t understand what anti-consumer actually means.
Sony Exclusivity: Pro-consumer.
XBox Exclusivity: Microsoft money-hatting. Bad for the industry.
... and wanted to play a game on the most powerful system
This thread is one of the biggest WTFs in a while. It really makes me hope that:
- Microsoft secure the WB acquisition
- Makes Batman, LOTR, Mortal Kombat all exclusive.
- Watch people react to it on GAF while I recall this thread excusing that same practice while calling it consumer friendly.
I'm definitely buying a PS5 but I fail to see how them paying out hundreds of millions for timed exclusives helps me. As far as I can see, it's the worst possible use of that money, from my point of view.
I'd much rather they hadn't closed down good studios like Evolution and Guerrilla Cambridge. I'd much rather they buy new studios like Ready at Dawn or the WB developers. I'd much rather they expand their existing studios, or open brand new ones.
Exclusives are great because they let developers harness the unique power of the PS5, and the PS4 before it. That won't be the case with these timed exclusives because developers will know they have to be ported to the Xbox soon after.
Timed exclusives are a zero sum game: Sony win by making Xbox lose.
It's shit.
This I actually agree with, in principle. But I'd that's not a possibility lime with Chinese Disney (Tencent) over there on oneside, and whatever that large Jap conglomerate is that owns FROM, not to mention other players like THQ Nordic trying to gobble-up IP as well, then I suppose it's a good use of the money, right?
Monopoly is never a good thing. Competition pushes the industry said:And look at what don't have given us all while having no competition this gen ... If that's what a monopoly looks like it ain't half bad imho .
Yes. MS ownS Ninja Theory now and paid for development of Hellblade 2. Not the case for Hellblade 1.Would this be different to them having games like Hellblade II when the first wasn't exclusive? I haven't seen many meltdowns over that. Like, I've seen way more over the fact that one character in a crappy looking game is exclusive.
Hellblade was a much more niche title than Batman or the LOTR series. And I don't think people care that much about the exclusivity of a character in a crappy game. It is more the fact that the practice is praised on one platform and chastized on the other.Would this be different to them having games like Hellblade II when the first wasn't exclusive? I haven't seen many meltdowns over that. Like, I've seen way more over the fact that one character in a crappy looking game is exclusive.
This thread is one of the biggest WTFs in a while. It really makes me hope that:
- Microsoft secure the WB acquisition
- Makes Batman, LOTR, Mortal Kombat all exclusive.
- Watch people react to it on GAF while I recall this thread excusing that same practice while calling it consumer friendly.
This was a sad and pathetic attempt. Try harder sport! You can do it.What is the best performing system, remind me again ?
People keep saying this. They can buy exclusive rights to use the license however. That's IF the licenses aren't part of the deal.The WB deal doesn't include batman license.
Sony is bringing out all the stops this cycle.
It's only going to get harder and harder not to choose them as your primary console this generation
Well, sure that works if you are a huge PlayStation fanboy and don't care about them spending money on timed exclusives or your fellow gamers Series Xses not getting game.
But what if you had both consoles and wanted to play a game on the most powerful system
Ok so now you’re resorting to the ridiculous. I’m out.
one last question though - do you believe that there is no such thing as anti consumer behaviour?
Let's talk the very real possibility that this game could have run better on Xbox Series X and certainly on PC, but now that won't matter because you'll have to play the "bad version" or wait on the chance of a port.The crux of this absolutely ridiculous argument stems from some false sense of entitlement.
This thread is one of the biggest WTFs in a while. It really makes me hope that:
- Microsoft secure the WB acquisition
- Makes Batman, LOTR, Mortal Kombat all exclusive.
- Watch people react to it on GAF while I recall this thread excusing that same practice while calling it consumer friendly.
It's not about why Sony should care.
Good grief.. this forum lol
You all just need a basic lesson on monopolies and how they work out for consumers in the long run. The Sony we see today exists because of healthy competition, you remove that and things change. Will they stop producing software for profit? Of course not.. but anything they would be driven to do to compete in a market becomes lessened.. their decisions about hardware, the services they offer, and things like niche games they make to differentiate themselves change and they can just focus on maximizing profit as consumers have no other choice.
So yes, companies making money can be good for consumers.. so can healthy competition. Nobody in their right mind is demanding SONY care.. but gamers should care.
They should want companies to compete by producing better products to vie for our dollars.. not "YAY THIS COMPANY JUST PAID TO MAKE THE OTHER PRODUCT WORSE... YAY!! GO COMPANY!"
(in before "Microsoft does it too!" of course they do, these anti-competitive practices suck all around, doesn't matter who does it)
Like I said, is far from monopoly because every other console maker has the resources to compete against Sony, the choose no to. MS has all the money power to buy many AAA exclusivities, then choose not to because their planification and management. its called a Monopoly when the competitors to top business are not able to invest because those are short of resources which must be verified and validated by a proper government department.
Because nothing more screams ridiculous sense of entitlement than paying for the weakest version of a game to be the only version of a game.
Because nothing more screams ridiculous sense of entitlement than paying for the weakest version of a game to be the only version of a game.
The hilarious thing is how plainly obvious the brainwashing of marketing works on consumers, particularly gamers.
You see yourselves as part of the brand.. you are Sony.. that's why you go to defend them so much. "Why should Sony care!" Why are you thinking/talking/acting on behalf of a faceless corporation who doesn't give 2 shits about you?
This shit is mind numbing.
You're not entitled to play that game on your platform of choice. The sooner this sinks into your mind, the better. You whole post boils down to this...."I want to play the game on another platform because xyz". Well guess what? You're not entitled to do so. If you don't like it, don't buy the damn game. I honestly don't know what is wrong with some of you. On here whining about games like its the only thing of value in your lives. If you can't play a game because its not on your platform of choice, move on. Its not the end of the world.Let's talk the very real possibility that this game could have run better on Xbox Series X and certainly on PC, but now that won't matter because you'll have to play the "bad version" or wait on the chance of a port.
Because nothing more screams ridiculous sense of entitlement than paying for the weakest version of a game to be the only version of a game.
I always get all consoles, price is not a factor, I just prefer that extra mile Sony put in. Stuff like this you just dont get elsewhere.
No need to write around it, pal. I'm not saying Sony can't do it, I'm saying blocking superior versions of the game is probably quite clever, if a bit underhanded.You're not entitled to play that game on your platform of choice. The sooner this sinks into your mind, the better. You whole post boils down to this...."I want to play the game on another platform because xyz". Well guess what? You're not entitled to do so. If you don't like it, don't buy the damn game. I honestly don't know what is wrong with some of you. On here whining about games like its the only thing of value in your lives. If you can't play a game because its not on your platform of choice, move on. Its not the end of the world.
I love Sony as a company. They're my go to for electronics in multiple fields: headphones, cameras, televisions, etc.
They've always been like this though: super proprietary and very Apple like in their practices. Remember the mini disc player? Remember vita and those weird proprietary memory cards? What's good for the goose isnt always good for the gander. I get it, its exciting to see your fun toy box promise you exclusives, etc but these business practices are damaging to the industry overall.
No matter how badly i want to play a third party title like FF16, I refuse for some company to force my hand into buying a lesser product when I already have a PC, etc.
Want first party, second party exclusives? Fine. But this is as bad as Epic Games Store crap on PC. Its dumb and people eat it like sugary cereal.
What is the best performing system, remind me again ?
it is sad yes. fanboys are the cancer of gaming, or any competitive market really, and this is why.
lolWhat is the best performing system, remind me again ?
I always find it funny when people spend a ton of words to dance around what they actually want to say. In this case your postering is as surprising as the rest of the pack.
“I don’t want to buy a PlayStation” is literally all there is to it.