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[Yoboman]

I just watched it again and something that caught my eye was how the "outside" had changed drastically afterwards

Before:

After:

The film takes place over 4 days but when they emerge back in the real world it looks like a couple decades have passed, I mean even the building is completely different. Plaster is stripped away, moss everywhere, greenery overgrown. Is this just inconsistent art or was there a reason for this?

 

[Peru]

Um, the characters even comment on it. Obviously they've been away in fantasy world for some time.

 

[disappeared]

I think it was basically one of those paradoxes wherein as soon as the characters passed through that tunnel, much more time passed in the "regular" world than it did in the "spirit" world. I'd assume too, that once everything turned back to normal, the parents would have no recollection of what happened.

 

[Yoboman]

Um, the characters even comment on it. Obviously they've been away in fantasy world for some time.

They comment on it, but they don't explain why there's decades worth of change there. The father says "there's dust in here too", that could happen in four days - so why the huge difference?

 

[tokkun]

I think it's evident that a lot of time had passed, since you would expect it to take months or years for a sealed car to become noticeably dusty.

I suppose it's somewhat consistent with Haku's appearing young, even though his river was gone a long time in the past.

 

[FlyinJ]

Goddamn I loved this movie. And I hate anime in all forms. It's just an amazing blend of forboding, emotion and discovery. It's my favorite Gibli film by far.

I need to watch it again.

 

[Dali]

...I loved this movie.

It's my favorite Gibli film by far.

I hate anime in all forms.

Does not compute.

 

[aceface]

I'd suggest something along the lines of: humans were never supposed to find that entrance in the first place so the spirits (?) took more care to hide it. Remember also in the movie that a trickling stream turns into a river the size of the Mississippi in a matter of minutes, and the countryside around the bathouse turns into an ocean after one rainstorm.

 

[Flynn]

Does not compute.

I'll do the math for you:

Kon+Miyazaki+Bebop+A Few Other otable Exceptions = All Worthwhile Anime

 

[Wario64]

I'll do the math for you:

Kon+Miyazaki+Bebop+A Few Other otable Exceptions = All Worthwhile Anime

I'm in the same boat.

 

[DarknessTear]

Bebop

Always wonderful when an anime hater lists a show with 98% filler crap as their favorite!

 

[Ether_Snake]

There are not decades of changes. When they got there to begin with the red wall and such was already the fantasy world. What you see at the end of the movie is that they had really made their way into some forest, and the car stayed there for a few days while they went into the fantasy world (hence why there are some leaves and stuff on the car).

So the scenery you see at the beginning is not the real world to begin with.

That's how I see it anyway.

 

[Dali]

I'll do the math for you:

Kon+Miyazaki+Bebop+A Few Other otable Exceptions = All Worthwhile Anime

Yeah but if you like some anime, you probably shouldn't say stuff like "I hate anime in all forms." Hence the "does not compute."

Always wonderful when an anime hater lists a show with 98% filler crap as their favorite!

What? Bebop is a great anime... one of the greatest. It has almost zero filler. Yes it is episodic, but episodic != filler.

 

[Flynn]

Always wonderful when an anime hater lists a show with 98% filler crap as their favorite!

The so-called filler crap is what makes it a great show. And, I'm not really an anime hater, just a true believer that Sturgeon's Law applies to the genre and that most anime fans don't realize it.

 

[Flynn]

So the scenery you see at the beginning is not the real world to begin with.

That's how I see it anyway.

That's a good reading.

 

[Yoboman]

There are not decades of changes. When they got there to begin with the red wall and such was already the fantasy world. What you see at the end of the movie is that they had really made their way into some forest, and the car stayed there for a few days while they went into the fantasy world (hence why there are some leaves and stuff on the car).

So the scenery you see at the beginning is not the real world to begin with.

That's how I see it anyway.

...But they specifically showed the hairband that Granny and No-face had woven for her at the end to signify that it had been real.

 

[Ether_Snake]

...But they specifically showed the hairband that Granny and No-face had woven for her at the end to signify that it had been real.

The events are real, but when they arrive at the red wall they are already in "the other world". You only see what the location really looks like at the end of the movie when they get out of it. Turns out no road actually led to that place, it was just some old abandoned tunnel in a deep forest. The scene you see in the first image with the road that leads to a statue and a building is "the other world".

 

[Flynn]

EDIT: Also, I expected better of you, Flynn, than "lolz anime sux lolz."

There's just so much awful, mediocre and turgid anime out there. And, you have to admit, that anime fans tend to especially undiscerning.

 

[speedpop]

I enjoy movies (not just anime) that don't have to grab you by the head and explain to you why an ending happened or what that character had done. Being walked through something like that makes me feel like a toddler.

 

[tnw]

There's just so much awful, mediocre and turgid anime out there. And, you have to admit, that anime fans tend to especially undiscerning.

naw, this is pretty much true. The miyazaki stuff is beautifully illustrated. Pretty much the only anime I like is Grave of Fireflies, which isn't done by miyazaki.

 

[tnw]

...because of the poor character development or the contrived attempt at tearjerking?

Because of its illiustration of the firebombings (which most western audiences don't know anything about) and what life might have looked like during the war.

 

[Saoh]

damn it, this movie is awesome, don't criticize it.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

They comment on it, but they don't explain why there's decades worth of change there. The father says "there's dust in here too", that could happen in four days - so why the huge difference?

It isn't a couple of decades: it's a couple of weeks.

 

[bjork]

Always wonderful when an anime hater lists a show with 98% filler crap as their favorite!

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Will do, that's just crazytalk.

 

[Flynn]

Also, you seem to be a pretty sharp guy, Flynn, so I figured you'd have that all figured out already. And no one on a video game forum has a right to look down on anyone else. :lol

You're right. I'm in a bad mood about anime lately, partially because I hate the level of quality in the dubs (I was psyched to download Akira or Galactic Railroad on video marketplace then realized that there probably wouldn't be language options) and I hate that those same voice actors are ruining half the games coming out too. Sometimes I just get the feeling that anime is dragging us all down.

 

[cryptic]

Kon+Miyazaki+Bebop+Otomo+A Few Other otable Exceptions = All Worthwhile Anime

Fixed.

 

[Tokubetsu]

I don't care for most of Studio Ghibli's stuff, except for maybe Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

The film takes place over 4 days

Pretty sure that's where you are tripping up. Didn't she spend a couple weeks working?

 

[probune]

This movie was quite boring to me. It's all I came to say. I suppose to be on topic I could say that by the end I didn't care enough about anyone in the story to figure out what was going on.

 

[fmcato]

...because of the poor character development or the contrived attempt at tearjerking?

It's the faithful adaptation of an autobiographic novel.

 

[Great Rumbler]

There's just so much awful, mediocre and turgid anime out there. And, you have to admit, that anime fans tend to especially undiscerning.

At the risk of causing the topic to go further off-topic and into the realm of heated debate, it's actually possible to watch a wide range of anime from multiple styles and genres while still getting quality series. Toss out the all the overblown actions series, goopy harem series, borderline hentai and vapid kid's show and you're well on you're way.

 

[pj]

I happened to catch Spirited Away on TCM last week. Are Ghibli movies in the rotation now, or was it a one off thing?

 

[7Th]

I don't care for most of Miyazaki's stuff, except for maybe Princess Mononoke, Laputa, Lupin the 3rd and Nausicaa.

Now that's something I would say, Ghibli has some other great directors in there.

At the risk of causing the topic to go further off-topic and into the realm of heated debate, it's actually possible to watch a wide range of anime from multiple styles and genres while still getting quality series. Toss out the all the overblown actions series, goopy harem series, borderline hentai and vapid kid's show and you're well on you're way.

Dead Leaves > Kino no Tabi, even if they're both great.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

I happened to catch Spirited Away on TCM last week. Are Ghibli movies in the rotation now, or was it a one off thing?

Pretty sure it's a one off thing, or at least a rare occurance. Don't think TCM has shown SA since that time they had the Ghibli marathon.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Spirited Away is so amazing. I loved every second of it.

 

[Great Rumbler]

Dead Leaves > Kino no Tabi, even if they're both great.

I've almost bought Dead Leaves several times, but never actually did. I'd better get it up on Netflix before I forget about it again.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

I've almost bought Dead Leaves several times, but never actually did. I'd better get it up on Netflix before I forget about it again.

It's okay. It's not as mind blowing as some others like Mind Game...but it's fun to watch.

 

[J2 Cool]

Miyazaki has to have a director survivor next. Even though I think I might like Isao Takahata a little more. He's got 8 amazing films, and 1 enjoyable film that would get knocked off first.