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Extra Punctuation: Don't Use the Word Gamer

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/art...031-Extra-Punctuation-Dont-Use-the-Word-Gamer

I have a request, planet Earth. I have graced you with my presence for 27 years and I think it's only fair you do something for me in return. I want everyone to stop using the word "gamer".

I know it's going to be tough. Language shifts always are. It's going to be a hard word to let go of. It's been a great comfort in all the years that hardship gamers - I mean, "people who play videogames" have spent battling for acceptance. To say one is a gamer is to belong to a group, and it's human nature to want to belong, to know that there are others carrying the pennant alongside you, even if it they have acne and smell faintly of milk.

No, you probably don't have acne and don't smell of milk (although some of you almost certainly do) but "gamer" is a label, and whenever a label is used, an image of the stereotype attached to that label flips up unwarranted into your unconscious mind. Anyone who identifies as a "gamer" will create a very specific image in the mind of the layman. Probably something somewhere between one of the Columbine killers and that shouty German kid from YouTube. Or a sweaty, fat, neckbearded manchild weeping over their Aeris body pillows (or is it Aerith? I can never remember).

It is frustrating that this image exists, but it's nothing anyone can help. It's a status quo thing and a mass media thing and those are always hard to shift. But people who completely aren't helping the case at all are the ones who take an almost revolutionary pride in their "gamer" status. "I am gamer", they say, "hear me whine". If you want an example of the kind of person I'm talking about, click on the comments link down below, and there'll probably be a few who fell for the bait in the last paragraph and are now arguing over the correct spelling of whatever that flaky bint's name was. These are the people who hurl abuse at film critics who question the artistic potential of games and send death threats to Jack Thompson - which only proved his point. Whatever happened to that guy, by the way? I guess after he got disbarred he slipped back down to the "strange man yelling from porch" level on The Sims career track for Moral Guardians.

I'm not saying you have to be ashamed of playing videogames, but I'm not saying you should be proud and shouting it from the rooftops either. It's not like being a gay vicar or a female boxer or a quadruple amputee ping pong champion. Being a player of games does not make one a minority or part of an elite club, as employing a label like "gamer" wordlessly implies. Games aren't important. Well, they are for me, because they're my job. I am professionally obliged to critique, analyze and catalog games, and I wouldn't have it any other way. But that's just me. I'm like some esteemed professor of pizza-making who aspires to know everything about the process of pizza and devotes their life to finding the greatest pizzas of all time. Society does need these people because you never know when some pizza issue will come up that requires an expert's consultation, but they're not exactly changing the world, and they don't expect their customers to call themselves "Pizzarillas" and run around wearing pizza-themed T-shirts....

.....continued in the article....


The point I'm trying to reach is that playing games, as entertaining and fascinating and beneficial as it might be, is just something people do, not something they should be defined by. People don't call themselves moviegoers, or TV watchers, or book readers. That's the job of marketing agencies.


I have to say I kind of agree with him here. As huge of a gaming enthusiast as I am, I don't take pride in playing video games.

It doesn't make sense to define your entire personality and persona by your hobby, not unless you have the rare kind of passion that appreciates game design and mechanics and artistry from a critical standpoint. Which I would argue the majority of self-labeled "gamers" don't. (although we have a much higher concentration of them here on GAF then usual, and I feel that I am one)

And yes, I fully comprehend that I am in fact posting this on NeoGAF. Kind of curious to see what people say.
 
I've been foaming at the mouth for about 775 million years at people using gamer to describe bros sitting in their basement playing MW2 in their MW2 pajama pants. As far as I'm concerned, nobody being called a gamer is better than the current situation.
 
Film connoisseur
TV Buffs
Bookworms

Littlegator said:
I've been foaming at the mouth for about 775 million years at people using gamer to describe bros sitting in their basement playing MW2 in their MW2 pajama pants. As far as I'm concerned, nobody being called a gamer is better than the current situation.
Bullshit. MW2 didn't exist 775 million years ago.
 
I take pride in playing video games and having it delve into every part of my person. I'm proud to call myself a gamer despite the negative connotations it has amongst others. I don't play games to learn about game mechanics and I sure as hell don't have the talent to design a game or an asset for a game. I just enjoy playing the finished products, discussing those products in a variety of ways and getting others to try those products. I'm a gamer and proud of it.
 
Well, I suppose it's always nice to read it, but it's not like OMG nobody ever thought of it that way.

But yeah, I dislike the word gamer myself. Its silly label quality is shown in all its glory when the word is used as is in other languages than English. 10 years ago nobody would have called themselves (or somebody else) a "gamer", and that goes for both the press and the general populace.
 
Rorschach said:
Film connoisseur
TV Buffs
Bookworms


Bullshit. MW2 didn't exist 775 million years ago.

This made me laugh when I don't think it should have :lol

I have no problem really w/ the term gamer. I have other hobbies, but one of my largest is easily being a gamer. If you hang out w/ me for 5 minutes I don't fit most of the stereotypes and my friends know this. If someone new I meet gets turned off by the fact that I play games, I don't really care to prove them wrong, that's on them that they judge so quickly.

The only time I ever try not to bring up my games is @ work, as I'm a CPA.
 
Rorschach said:
Film connoisseur
TV Buffs
Bookworms
Exactly. Those labels exist, and they apply to true enthusiasts. Which the vast majority of modern "gamers" are not. I personally am a connoisseur of books, films, and games.
 
The_Technomancer said:
I have to say I kind of agree with him here. As huge of a gaming enthusiast as I am, I don't take pride in playing video games.

And perhaps that's why you shouldn't refer to yourself as a gamer.

I think it's a perfectly apt term and never feel as if I'm pigeon-holing holing myself when I used it. It's a large part of my life (though I also work in the industry) and feel no shame in using it.

Though granted, it's also contextual. I don't often introduce myself as a "gamer," but I'm happy to use it to describe myself quickly or an aspect of my life.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Exactly. Those labels exist, and they apply to true enthusiasts. Which the vast majority of modern "gamers" are not. I personally am a connoisseur of books, films, and games.

You know how I know you're a gamer? You're posting on Neogaf. :lol
 
No, this is mostly stupid, with a kernal of a point inside it.

The word "gamer" is not new in its usage, though people like the author think it is because it's become trendy in the last decade. "Gamer" has shown up for decades. In point of fact, the first place I saw gamer in usage was among tabletop war gamers.

And people DO call themselves moviegoers (moviegoer is, in point, a term used by critics, analysts, film studios, etc), as one comparison.

This isn't the first time I've seen this rant. A few months ago I saw some blog with a lady decided to act arch and say that "gamer" is a foolish made-up word that has only existed in the last couple of years, by nerds trying to seem special - but in her case she actually did look down on computer games and thought they were a waste of time.

The real point the author has is that some "gamers" may try to use their label to elevate themselves in status. But /this happens in everything/. Every niche, fandom, hobby, genre, whatever. NASCAR fans have slang they use to make themselves seem cooler and more of a clique than other racing fans. Football fans, Rush Limbaugh fans, fans of even specific film genres, etc etc.

There is a wider and more common term for people who are deeply into something however - "buff". Film buff, music buff, car buff, you name it. Sure - I think it's just as acceptable and does go with established trends to call someone who plays a lot of games a "gaming buff". But using the shorthand "gamer" causes no particular issue. Only in specific instances does someone use gamer in a stupid way.

Also, articles like this strike me as a lost cause. People are not really going to drop "gamer" until, at least, until a more popular term comes along.
 
When does a person call himself a gamer? It's not a job title, don't see why hes getting his panties in a bunch.

Also gamers for years was people who played Roleplaying games, boardgames, miniatures games etc. It only recently became the "cool tag" for video game fans.
 
Until there is something decent to replace it, I don't see the option. It's true though, a 'Filmer' would be someone who films things, a 'Photographer' already is the person who takes photographs. A gamer should really mean someone who builds games as appose to plays them.
 
Rorschach said:
Film connoisseur
TV Buffs
Bookworms


Bullshit. MW2 didn't exist 775 million years ago.

I never, in my life, ever heard someone say "Well, as a bookworm, I ______________" or "We bookworms _____________________." Never will either.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Right but, and this is an honest to god question, why do you take pride in it?

it's something I love doing. I like the separation from reality to live a fantasy, because reality is kinda boring for me. pretty much why I like any kind of fiction.
 
Mr. B Natural said:
I never, in my life, ever heard someone say "Well, as a bookworm, I ______________" or "We bookworms _____________________." Never will either.
You have obviously never ventured into the dark musty lair of a bibliophile.
 
Rorschach said:
Film connoisseur
TV Buffs
Bookworms

Yeah, I was thinking that too. You would think a guy like Yahtzee wouldn't overlook labels like those in an article about a label stereotype.

Mr. B Natural said:
I never, in my life, ever heard someone say "Well, as a bookworm, I ______________" or "We bookworms _____________________." Never will either.

I have A LOT. Elitists exist in every medium from video games to bird watching.
 
I don't think as ever use that term. If I was forced to label myself I'd probably use "nerd". Which I think is a more apt term anyway since it covers more than just a single hobby of a person.
 
Mr. B Natural said:
I never, in my life, ever heard someone say "Well, as a bookworm, I ______________" or "We bookworms _____________________." Never will either.

Because "gamers" as a whole do fall into common conventions of interest. Bookworms, movie buffs, etc just like a hobby but often have wildy different takes on things and don't really "hang out". Course you can focus either of those categories to something like Trekkies, Harry Potter fans, etc, etc.
 
Totally agree. Let's not say "gamer" anymore, as it doesn't further the industry toward better public acceptance.


Also: say "twenty-ten" instead of "two-thousand ten"
 
ILikeFeet said:
it's something I love doing. I like the separation from reality to live a fantasy, because reality is kinda boring for me. pretty much why I like any kind of fiction.
Right, okay, thats why you enjoy it. But why do you take pride in it?
 
Rorschach said:
Film connoisseur
TV Buffs
Bookworms
First things I thought of.


I mean, it doesn't really change his point

Yahtzee said:
playing games, as entertaining and fascinating and beneficial as it might be, is just something people do, not something they should be defined by.
but I don't agree with it anyway.

Hobbyists define themselves through their hobby, news at eleven. We all have our various roles to fill in the different areas of our lives. Being "a gamer" is just one of the many.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Right, okay, thats why you enjoy it. But why do you take pride in it?

Who says people all take pride in it?

Really it's just a fancy name to cover up what is considered nerdy/geeky. "oh I'm a geek who plays games all day", no no no. "Oh I'm a gamer you know...."
 
The_Technomancer said:
Right, okay, thats why you enjoy it. But why do you take pride in it?

because i can play games where i am a witch with guns on her feet who's clothes are actually her hair
 
The point I'm trying to reach is that playing games, as entertaining and fascinating and beneficial as it might be, is just something people do, not something they should be defined by. People don't call themselves moviegoers, or TV watchers, or book readers. That's the job of marketing agencies.

Er, people are referred to as movie goers. And this is so stupid. The idea that you should not label a person as owned by a trait goes back further to the idea of using the word Oriental or saying a person is "a homosexual."

This is just another embarrassing example of how gamer culture has it's head up it's solipsistic ass.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Exactly. Those labels exist, and they apply to true enthusiasts. Which the vast majority of modern "gamers" are not. I personally am a connoisseur of books, films, and games.
The people who self-identify as gamers tend to fall heavily into the connoisseur category.
 
Most people also don't go calling themselves TV watchers, book readers, etc because they are common things that everyone does. People label their hobbies generally for being more unique, such as Skaters, potheads, golfers, whatever the fuck you can think of. No one goes "i'm a tv watcher" because everyone pretty much watches TV.
 
BattleMonkey said:
Who says people all take pride in it?

Really it's just a fancy name to cover up what is considered nerdy/geeky. "oh I'm a geek who plays games all day", no no no. "Oh I'm a gamer you know...."
I'm not saying people all take pride in it. I'm honestly trying to understand why some people do.
Part of it is definitely the social thing; if you just enjoy playing MW2 or Assassin's Creed 2 you can still identify as a gamer and find people with similar interests. That's one reason to broadcast it, certainly.

SapientWolf said:
The people who self-identify as gamers tend to fall heavily into the connoisseur category.
I respectfully disagree. One thing I discovered living in a dorm last year was how many guys there were who proudly called themselves gamers who owned a 360 and bought maybe the three biggest most hyped AAA titles of the year. That pride, that "badge" didn't make a lot of sense to me.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Exactly. Those labels exist, and they apply to true enthusiasts. Which the vast majority of modern "gamers" are not. I personally am a connoisseur of books, films, and games.
Yeah i'm all against "gamer" as well.
Also, it's goddamn motherfucking connAisseur, unless you're living in 16th century france, which for some obscure reason a lot of english speakers seem to be, or at least talk as if they were, which drives me NUTS, because they ARENT!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Rorschach said:
Film connoisseur
TV Buffs
Bookworms

These are passive entertainment skills. The word "Gamer" to me means an active participation to get value/enjoyment for your entertainment. I would categorize playing games to a sport. Its just games require the ability to move your thumbs in a mildly coordinated fashion. A lot of people wish we could move onto even more active/visceral form of interactions for games (like 3d or motion control) but many "Gamers" fear change.

So maybe Thumbmover or Button masher is a better term than Gamer.

I didn't click on the article. What is the new word to replace "Gamer" GAF?
 
BattleMonkey said:
Because "gamers" as a whole do fall into common conventions of interest. Bookworms, movie buffs, etc just like a hobby but often have wildy different takes on things and don't really "hang out". Course you can focus either of those categories to something like Trekkies, Harry Potter fans, etc, etc.

What do you mean "don't really hang out"? And all those things you listed seem to be associated with words like "nerd"
 
"Gamer" gives me the mental image of people I've known that love video game t-shirts, references, game cakes, and talking about GAMES AS ART more than playing games.

this is why i don't use the word very much.

What is the new word to replace "Gamer" GAF?

who gives a fuck
 
People call themselves "golfers" right? Even if they don't play it for a living. I see the word "gamer" as the same type of thing. Doesn't really bother me either way though.

I don't get the whole pride thing though.
 
cuevas said:
What do you mean "don't really hang out"?

You see bunch of movie goers getting together just to hang out and talk shop? Not often. It's not like gamers who like to get together, go to conventions, play together, talk stupid about game characters, post on gaf. Same thing with TV watchers. They are all such widely accepted common things that they aren't really treated as hobbies which are commonly more niche interests.
 
The word "gamer" is actually something I've rarely seen used outside of the industry by anything other than news media outlets. Certainly, among friends and co-workers and such, that's never been the case. Nobody ever seems to really say "I'm a gamer" or really uses the word "gamer" in conversation. People just say "I play games" or "I have an Xbox", or other similar statements that may be more specific.
 
BattleMonkey said:
You see bunch of movie goers getting together just to hang out and talk shop? Not often. It's not like gamers who like to get together, go to conventions, play together, talk stupid about game characters, post on gaf. Same thing with TV watchers. They are all such widely accepted common things that they aren't really treated as hobbies which are commonly more niche interests.

Yeah so no reason to use the word "gamer".
 
BattleMonkey said:
Because "gamers" as a whole do fall into common conventions of interest. Bookworms, movie buffs, etc just like a hobby but often have wildy different takes on things and don't really "hang out". Course you can focus either of those categories to something like Trekkies, Harry Potter fans, etc, etc.

Exactly. Gamer isn't just about a person and his games, it's a pseudo "lifestyle." Bookworm is a person that likes books...of any kind of book. A gamer has a lot more connotation because of niches and people taking games way too seriously, like a "LARPer" or something. Gamers are VERY defensive of their hobby and spend a lot more time then any other hobbyist subculture in the history of hobbies. It's literally a $0 an hour full time job for a lot of "gamers." Too many of them. This is probably why the word "gamer" is used like it's someone's career is used...unlike a bookworm or film connoisseur.

People saying "gamer" is a perfectly fine that parallels "film connoisseur" is fine isn't paying enough attention. In a perfect world, maybe.

As a side note, I am the worst speller of "connoisseur" in the world. I was so off that even spell check couldn't help me :D
 
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