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Fall of Anime 2012 |OT2| O cursed spite, that ever I was born to UUURRRRYYY!!

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madp

The Light of El Cantare
Ixion Saga DT 8

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I can't really recall many good moments from StrikerS. It just felt completely soulless to me, and not at all what I wanted from a Nanoha series (or anything in general, really).

Now, if they could make something on par with As, I'd be in love all over again, but I don't really know if that's in the cards.
Striker took too much time to explain the basis of this new world .Ep5 was great , the vivio moments were fine , subara losing his sh*t was a nice WTF ..and the final arc was correctly done scalietti and quatro did their parts well and nanoha blasting the ship was a glorious "oh yeah " moment. (Special mention for Vita )

A's had a lots of battles , strikers didn't but that's because their plot was there to accomodate the huge cast of characters they added ..they easily doubled or tripled their cast ..

While heavily flawed , striker wasn't IMO that bad.

Animating Nanoha: Vivid would be glorious (not sure how I feel about Force). But then again, Vivid is basically the same thing as Dog Days except with even less plot. All they do is randomly have magical battles. I just couldn't stand the male lead of Dog Days (and the voice associated).

I can't wait for the Nanoha A's movie to come out :(

Force can die in a fire and be forgotten
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18780843/anime/dokidokiprecureleak.jpg

Could this be the first Doki Doki! PreCure leak!?

Yeah, probably. 7Th showed me a leaked promotional toy sheet that corroborates this. Looks like a playing card (or, as the nihonjin say, TORAMPU) theme and the characters could potentially be Cure Heart, Cure Spade, Cure Diamond, and Cure Club.

I never judge designs by the first leaked image because it's never official art (Smile and Heartcatch had pretty horrifying art in their leaks), but man if these Cures don't look really similar to Peach, Muse, Beat, and Egret.

That art style looks familiar...

If nothing else that mascot really looks like something out of Jewelpet.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
You shall not kill my hopes!
Why the fuck isn't there a BrocureGAF already?

Why would you hope for this to be Umakoshi when it means that we'd be getting something that isn't a Heartcatch S2???

I think there isn't a Precure OT because most of us are practical enough not to want to be constantly referred to as pedophiles and social outcasts on a forum that we frequent and the less that's known by people who wouldn't understand, the better.

And because no one wants to see me ragequit GAF which would kill most of the activity in the thread anyway ;_;
 
Striker took too much time to explain the basis of this new world .Ep5 was great , the vivio moments were fine , subara losing his sh*t was a nice WTF ..and the final arc was correctly done scalietti and quatro did their parts well and nanoha blasting the ship was a glorious "oh yeah " moment. (Special mention for Vita )

A's had a lots of battles , strikers didn't but that's because their plot was there to accomodate the huge cast of characters they added ..they easily doubled or tripled their cast ..

While heavily flawed , striker wasn't IMO that bad.

I stopped watching halfway through, so I can't really comment on what happened towards the end, but the problem with Strikers wasn't that it didn't have enough battles or anything. While they added a bunch of characters, they were pretty much all terrible and boring characters who weren't the least bit engaging.

The original and As were both firmly rooted in strong, character based drama, and had characters who were really engaging and likable. The battles were really secondary to everything else going on. Strikers had no emotional core to it at all. They added a bunch of characters, but none of them felt real, and the characters from the first two series had been aged up and now felt nothing like their old selves (plus, they were also largely now boring). There was no interesting drama to be had, and the story had no emotions behind it (at least in what I saw).

It just felt like a soulless cash in on what had once been a genuine and heartwarming series.
 
Striker took too much time to explain the basis of this new world .Ep5 was great , the vivio moments were fine , subara losing his sh*t was a nice WTF ..and the final arc was correctly done scalietti and quatro did their parts well and nanoha blasting the ship was a glorious "oh yeah " moment. (Special mention for Vita )

A's had a lots of battles , strikers didn't but that's because their plot was there to accomodate the huge cast of characters they added ..they easily doubled or tripled their cast ..

While heavily flawed , striker wasn't IMO that bad.



Force can die in a fire and be forgotten

The problem with Strikers (and Force) is that they're not even about Nanoha. The majority is about the new characters, while Nanoha stays home to be a mom. The only subplot I liked were Lutecia's Knights because their story somewhat felt like the previous villains in the first and second season.

Nanoha makes cameo appearances to kick ass, but that's mostly it.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Why would you hope for this to be Umakoshi when it means that we'd be getting something that isn't a Heartcatch S2???
It would be the closest thing to Heartcatch 2. :(
I think there isn't a Precure OT because most of us are practical enough not to want to be constantly referred to as pedophiles and social outcasts on a forum that we frequent and the less that's known by people who wouldn't understand, the better.

And because no one wants to see me ragequit GAF which would kill most of the activity in the thread anyway ;_;
It's about making a statement.
And other legendary animators such as Mahiro Maeda, Takeshi Honda, and Toshiyuki Inoue.
Everyone has their hands on porn!
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus

madp

The Light of El Cantare
It would be the closest thing to Heartcatch 2. :(

It's about making a statement.

Before another Umakoshi Precure I think I'd rather see another one that uses the Suite character designer but is actually good.

The entirety of GAF's Precure fandom fits snugly inside this thread, anything more would definitely just invite bad things when there's already a perfectly safe place for discussion!

there's also IRC when you want to go totally full hog into discussion, just ask 7Th, Envelope, and others

It's like a reverse Keyface.

I guess her grandfather is Yamabuki Academy's principal.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Before another Umakoshi Precure I think I'd rather see another one that uses the Suite character designer but is actually good.
Why do you phrase it as if Suite had good designs to begin with?
The entirety of GAF's Precure fandom fits snugly inside this thread, anything more would definitely just invite bad things when there's already a perfectly safe place for discussion!
Maybe we should just invite PonyGAF over here. Then they wouldn't get so much slack.
there's also IRC when you want to go totally full hog into discussion, just ask 7Th, Envelope, and others
I would probably do this but I'm behind by like thirty episodes and I already get enough spoiling from the gifs you jerks post in here thank you.
 
I stopped watching halfway through, so I can't really comment on what happened towards the end, but the problem with Strikers wasn't that it didn't have enough battles or anything. While they added a bunch of characters, they were pretty much all terrible and boring characters who weren't the least bit engaging.

The original and As were both firmly rooted in strong, character based drama, and had characters who were really engaging and likable. The battles were really secondary to everything else going on. Strikers had no emotional core to it at all. They added a bunch of characters, but none of them felt real, and the characters from the first two series had been aged up and now felt nothing like their old selves (plus, they were also largely now boring). There was no interesting drama to be had, and the story had no emotions behind it (at least in what I saw).

It just felt like a soulless cash in on what had once been a genuine and heartwarming series.

The first part you watched was an introductionnary arc ..yeah strikers isn't about nanoha but about the strikers she trained but it sorta kick off in the second part ...

The problem with Strikers (and Force) is that they're not even about Nanoha. The majority is about the new characters, while Nanoha stays home to be a mom. The only subplot I liked were Lutecia's Knights because their story somewhat felt like the previous villains in the first and second season.

Nanoha makes cameo appearances to kick ass, but that's mostly it.

Not seeing nanoha isn't a problem for me.. i want someone to kick ass , that can be fate,signum, vita or any new character all they have to do is to kick-ass while keeping the feelign of nanoha fights ..something that i feel they did properly in the second half..
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
referring to the impossible position the MC finds himself in in both shows. In Mayo Chikis case somehow he falls on the girl and her shirt is completely open all of a sudden and hes fondling her "by accident"

I showed this scene to my older sister. She was laughing at the sheer absurdity. I believe her words were "I'll give them credit, they knew they were making a fanservice show and said 'Fuck it, we're not even gonna try to make this shit realistic!' and just went for it,"
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
They've already covered two of the PreCures so if you include the Joker with Majorina and Red Oni, it should be enough to cover the rest.
They just started the solo episodes though.
There are four cards left, and three monsters left... unless I missed something.

I assume that Happy will have to fight the big boss last? Otherwise, it doesn't make sense. lol

Wreck it Ralph being so video game focused could really hurt it. The academy is a bunch of old men, super stuck in their ways. I'm certain they look down on video games and any media that tries to revere them.
I'm sure there's some crazy French animated film that will win it then!
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Why do you phrase it as if Suite had good designs to begin with?

because

Maybe we should just invite PonyGAF over here. Then they wouldn't get so much slack.

Like even the most loving families I try to keep my cousins at arm's length.

I would probably do this but I'm behind by like thirty episodes and I already get enough spoiling from the gifs you jerks post in here thank you.

At the clip you're going you'll be caught up in time for Doki Doki at least.
 

wonzo

Banned
They just started the solo episodes though.
There are four cards left, and three monsters left... unless I missed something.

I assume that Happy will have to fight the big boss last? Otherwise, it doesn't make sense. lol
The Cinderella episode, dude.
 
The first part you watched was an introductionnary arc ..yeah strikers isn't about nanoha but about the strikers she trained but it sorta kick off in the second part ...



Not seeing nanoha isn't a problem for me.. i want someone to kick ass , that can be fate,signum, vita or any new character all they have to do is to kick-ass while keeping the feelign of nanoha fights ..something that i feel they did properly in the second half..

I get the feeling the author wrote her characters into a corner where they're too strong to have interesting fights, so she resorted to creating new and inexperienced characters.

It's a shame, because the fights in Strikers weren't very memorable. The only good one was Zest/Agito vs Signum/Reinforce.
 
The problem with Strikers (and Force) is that they're not even about Nanoha. The majority is about the new characters, while Nanoha stays home to be a mom. The only subplot I liked were Lutecia's Knights because their story somewhat felt like the previous villains in the first and second season.

Nanoha makes cameo appearances to kick ass, but that's mostly it.

Yeah, it becomes about a bunch of shitty characters no one likes. And, beyond that, the setting has completely changed. Real Nanoha managed to tie the stories and the characters up in a believable world, and was able to touch on meaningful stories which were touching on real issues that these people were going through.

Strikers sends all of that out the door in favor of some crazy plot in some magical world with not a believable character in sight.

The first part you watched was an introductionnary arc ..yeah strikers isn't about nanoha but about the strikers she trained but it sorta kick off in the second part ...

Yeah, but my biggest problem what that all of the characters she was training were boring as shit and felt generic. And 'Nanoha' herself barely even felt like the character from the first seasons.
 

OceanBlue

Member
OT, but wafu---- Little busters VN. Did KEY get a new artist? Faces are infinitely better than the old days.

Some of the character portraits are done by Na-Ga instead of Itaru Hinoue. Na-Ga did all of the males, Rin, Mio, and Kud. I think Na-Ga had been with Key for a while, but he got to design some of the portraits for Little Busters.

Na-Ga is definitely better than Hinoue, but they both can't do perspective. It's a shame.

Hinoue did improve from her earlier work though. It's almost weird comparing Rewrite and Clannad.
 

Uchip

Banned
Some of the character portraits are done by Na-Ga instead of Itaru Hinoue. I think Na-Ga had been with Key for a while, but he got to design some of the portraits for Little Busters.

Na-Ga is definitely better than Hinoue, but they both can't do perspective. It's a shame.

who needs perspective when the only thing thats important is gigantic eyes
 
Yeah, it becomes about a bunch of shitty characters no one likes. And, beyond that, the setting has completely changed. Real Nanoha managed to tie the stories and the characters up in a believable world, and was able to touch on meaningful stories which were touching on real issues that these people were going through.

Strikers sends all of that out the door in favor of some crazy plot in some magical world with not a believable character in sight.



Yeah, but my biggest problem what that all of the characters she was training were boring as shit and felt generic. And 'Nanoha' herself barely even felt like the character from the first seasons.

The fact that Nanoha basically permanently left Earth was pretty funny to me. I know she said that she didn't feel like her life had any direction, but still pretty weird to just straight up leave.
 

wonzo

Banned
Rewatch the episode, BRAH!
Joker holds four cards in his hand after Wolfiepoo takes his Sex-kane card.
Ahh, I see what you mean.
I'm going off of the number of single PreCure transformation/fight sequences instead of the colour coded cards.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I get the feeling the author wrote her characters into a corner where they're too strong to have interesting fights, so she resorted to creating new and inexperienced characters.

It's a shame, because the fights in Strikers weren't very memorable. The only good one was Zest/Agito vs Signum/Reinforce.
taht might be true ..for the simple reason that by the end of A'S the 3 girls are overpowered ... they even had to comeup with teh civil ranking to nerfe their power output by 2 or 3 levels so that they just don't blow shit up too easily .

Yeah, it becomes about a bunch of shitty characters no one likes. And, beyond that, the setting has completely changed. Real Nanoha managed to tie the stories and the characters up in a believable world, and was able to touch on meaningful stories which were touching on real issues that these people were going through.

Strikers sends all of that out the door in favor of some crazy plot in some magical world with not a believable character in sight.



Yeah, but my biggest problem what that all of the characters she was training were boring as shit and felt generic. And 'Nanoha' herself barely even felt like the character from the first seasons.
You might not have seen them but i think the "numbers" were pretty good characters and antagonists ..

The fact that Nanoha basically permanently left Earth was pretty funny to me. I know she said that she didn't feel like her life had any direction, but still pretty weird to just straight up leave.

She still have ties to her earth friends ..i don't think her leaving the earth was such a funny move i think that given her job , it would have made everything much more difficult .
In short it was time to leave the nest ..especially given her familly background
 

Novid

Banned
Hollywood has tv shows marketing incestual pedophilia as the product?
I mean the content itself can surely be mindless, but I dont think western tv will reach the lows of anime

lets see... moe (My Little Pony) - Check
the dark act - Dance Moms episode 2 season 2 - Check
Incest? - Implied on Honey Boo Boo (between the adults but still)- Check
NTR - ALL fucking day on CBS. CHECK.
Of course western Tv is "tamed" if you consider boobs shown by accident "the death knell of sociatal discorse"
 

Uchip

Banned
lets see... moe (My Little Pony) - Check
the dark act - Dance Moms episode 2 season 2 - Check
Incest? - Implied on Honey Boo Boo (between the adults but still)- Check
NTR - ALL fucking day on CBS. CHECK.
Of course western Tv is "tamed" if you consider boobs shown by accident "the death knell of sociatal discorse"

its meaningless to compare live action with animation, dude
otherwise you have to include some terrible Jdrama and gameshows

so all you have there is that my little pony is apparently "moe"...
somehow I don't think it even counts as such, nor is moe necessarily a bad trait
 

Mature

Member
Incest? - Implied on Honey Boo Boo (between the adults but still)- Check
I don't know nor care at all about the bigger point here, but come on. Implied incestuous behavior is a far cry from a single show each programming season having a plot that revolves around it.
 
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