SwordStruck
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The overworld map in Demons Crest was pretty neat.
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Favorite Mode 7 use in a SNES game
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I think Mode 7 was used for background layers, sprite R&S was its own thing. But of course I could be wrong.
Secret of Mana. I loved flying around on Flammie.
This gets my vote.
Or Super Mario Kart.
sephiroth7x
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All the above are excellent choices, but there was nothing like the above. It was so amazingly cinematic, and really set the tone for what was to come.
Beaten...
Still one of the most perfect introductions to a game ever... with a sublime theme playing behind it...
Graphics Horse
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In some cases you can use a background layer to masquerade as what would look like a sprite, as long as you can only see one scaling thing at once. And yes background layers can appear in front of sprites.
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turnbuckle
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Final fantasy vi. Game was stunningly beautiful for its time and loved the overworld effect
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Actraiser
Was hoping someone would post that.
DiipuSurotu
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Chrono Trigger makes a clever use of Mode 7 not just for the classic pseudo 3D effect, but also to render real-time geometric shapes in all sorts of sizes and directions:
Castef
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Herbspiceguy
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Was Mode 7 used for the Chrono Trigger intro clock?
I'm quite sure Wolfenstein used mode 7 (of course not in the same way we associate mode 7 with).
That's why I said it was "unexpected".
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?9723-SNES-256-color-mode&p=212686&viewfull=1#post212686
DiipuSurotu
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Yes, as well as some of the cutscenes like the time vortex and Lavos' fall from space in Prehistory.
JackDebian
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I loved the top-down mode7 levels in Contra 3. It had a decent control scheme and dual wielding lasers while spinning around like a top was just straight up fun.
Graphics Horse
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Is there anything written about it? I can't think how it would be possible on the SNES. Yould could use mode 7 to do an empty Wolfenstein map with the screen turned sideways, but that's not much use.
Edit: oohhh ok,, that's just to double up the pixels, it's drawn as 128xwhatever and scaled up in mode 7. The actual world is drawn on the CPU, with a hardware weapon sprite and hud on top. The post below that (#8) explains it better than me.
That's pretty clever actually.
Edited my post with this link:
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post212686
There was another reference, I'll see if I can find it.
This:
Yoshi's Island title screen and map.
Simply hypnotic.
such an amazing title screen
...but it's not mode 7
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Contra III and Super Mario World.
Graphics Horse
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The ground is. It would look almost as good without the ground, mind.
Castef
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MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Ninja turtles throwing enemies at the screen
LittleNemoNES
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All the above are excellent choices, but there was nothing like the above. It was so amazingly cinematic, and really set the tone for what was to come.
There are a lot of excellent choices but this for me strikes a chord.
I am so thankful that my impatience didn't starve me of this intro.
It was the first game that "I" bought as a kid -- worked all summer to buy it. I had rented it and loved the graphics.
SerTapTap
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It is.
I don't think that's possible without the Super FX 2 chip YI has in it
Castef
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Naaah. Pretty much possible, the 2D elements don't even zoom.
It is the mode 7 landscape that wonderfully manages to keep the effect all together.
Graphics Horse
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The only thing I'm wondering is do they use the Superfx chip to add extra sprites, as you'd normally get flicker with so many sprites per line. It could just be very clever culling or ordering of which sprites it tries to display per line, but it's pushing it.
Even Pilotwings needed a DSP for the positioning of the rings, so that ain't Mode 7. It's SuperFX; Mode 7 is limited to one plane.
Mode 7 is a background mode. Therefore it works on backgrounds, not sprites. If a boss i displayed with mode 7, the background has to be black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_7#Limits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_7#Limits
spookyfish
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This!
And this:
Didn't Yoshi's Island have an FX chip in it?
Asked, answered.
FreedomFighter
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Actraiser
Aw yiss, in my head I can immediately hear the great, swelling music that goes with this (and the brilliant, mysterious little tag after the screen goes dark)
FreedomFighter
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FTFY
Uncle Rupee
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As far as actual gameplay is concerned, Mario Kart and F-Zero, with maybe something like Pilotwings a distant third.
As far as visual effects-wise, traveling by aircraft in Final Fantasy or Flammie in Secret of Mana.
As far as visual effects-wise, traveling by aircraft in Final Fantasy or Flammie in Secret of Mana.
IronicSonic
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This:
Yoshi's Island title screen and map.
Simply hypnotic.
Great. Magic coding here
TheJollyCorner
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Pilotwings.
Blew my mind back in the winter of '91.
I experienced Pilotwings, F-Zero, Super Mario World, Castlevania IV, and Actraiser all in the span of about a week.
It was Mode 7 heaven.
This is my choice as well for the same reasons you stated. I remember playing it when I was younger and that scene pulled me into the game. That was the first "cinematic" experience I had with a video game.
All the above are excellent choices, but there was nothing like the above. It was so amazingly cinematic, and really set the tone for what was to come.
JaseMath
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Impossible to watch without thinking of the music.Actraiser
All the above are excellent choices, but there was nothing like the above. It was so amazingly cinematic, and really set the tone for what was to come.
Agreed. First time a video game felt like more than a video game.
Ha! The music is playing in my head!Actraiser
Contra counts as the plane is actually using the tile layer, making it an instance of mode 7. Note how the background is black behind it. SNES had no sprite rotation and scaling hardware.
spookyfish
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It's also 64 meg.
:shrug:
how about this then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNGWykZ0ju0&feature=youtu.be
That's not 64 meg, and it's rotating the background in real time. The entire thing is running on a stock genesis, btw. No SVP chip.
Fruitster
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Pilotwings.
Blew my mind back in the winter of '91.
I experienced Pilotwings, F-Zero, Super Mario World, Castlevania IV, and Actraiser all in the span of about a week.
It was Mode 7 heaven.
Yep, this right here. That game (in fact all those games quoted above) was glorious.
Video says the genesis is overclocked, so no unmodded genesis could do that.
"Normal clock at start, 12mhz after first pause"
pretty believable given how thoroughly the Genesis CPU creams the SNES CPU.
Here it is running on an unmodded, non-overclocked genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_2VXjkS7g
Here is comparing Stock to overclocked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyme7CT04cw