It's hard to be "outraged" (or at least pretend to be....) when he's somewhat correct.
Why is he correct? He never bothered to explain himself, and neither did you for that matter. He just made this broad statement about the state of Japan's games.
It's hard to be "outraged" (or at least pretend to be....) when he's somewhat correct.
So you are okay with the way he did it? Cause you know that's why people are outraged.
How dare he insults the providers of 95% of my gaming library
GAF should pool some money together and send Phil Fish a package containing Bayonetta, Vanquish, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, and Yakuza 4. We should also include a note that reads, "Still think all Japanese games are fucking terrible?"
Precisely. It's an ignorant statement to make especially when no explanation is given to support such an opinion.Why is he correct? He never bothered to explain himself, and neither did you for that matter. He just made this broad statement about the state of Japan's games.
Is there video or audio of it?
GAF should pool some money together and send Phil Fish a package containing Bayonetta, Vanquish, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, and Yakuza 4. We should also include a note that reads, "Still think all Japanese games are fucking terrible?"
It's hard to be "outraged" (or at least pretend to be....) when he's somewhat correct.
I REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALY hope Fez is better than Sky Island because that shit is boring....
Like I'm gonna play SM3DLand instead boring and I'm no fan of that game either.
It's hard to be "outraged" (or at least pretend to be....) when he's somewhat correct.
I'm guessing GDGF was offed due to the Asperger's comment earlier?
Spend money to try and change an asshole's opinion? Nah. Not worth it. Does he have a kid? Send them to his kid. "Dad, Japanese games are the best!". That's justice. Like a racist who ends up with mixed-race grandkids.
I bet he'd pick out the Souls games for being hard in an archaic sense or something absurd.
Curiosity? I'd like to see how he actually made his statement.Why does that matter?
This should be on a board that's nailed to the entrance to the internet.As a very general rule, unless you can back it up with examples and explain with knowledge why the obvious exceptions are outliers, almost any kind of "genre X sucks now" or "region Y is bad at development" or whatever sort of generalization is going to wind up inaccurate and come off kind of ignorant.
It's hard to be "outraged" (or at least pretend to be....) when he's somewhat correct.
Never insult SM3DLand because it derails a thread for pages. I would know.
Japan centric games have no appeal to me whatsoever so I'm with this guy.
It's not exactly my fault if I'm not having fun with that game, but after playing skyisland, crush and my lifelong experience in platformer I feel like I'm being too harsh on 3D Mario games...
Which makes unkown indie dev comment even more funny in insight.
In the last year or so there has been plenty of evidence that Japanese games are on the rise once again. We've seen more quality JP releases lately than the rest of the generation and their technology is finally starting to catch up.
its been on decline for awhile now.
He's just saying out loud on a megaphone.
Even Capcom knew its dev sucks and started out sourcing its IP
Can't wait for next 8-4 Play.
No, it's okay. It's the worst 3D Mario.
The best part is that the only reason I'm even a little interested in Fez is that it borrows a mechanic I really liked from the Japanese game Super Paper Mario.
Sounds like a cool guy, I'll buy his shitty indie game.
People need to focus more on the fact that he said this to some aspiring kid's face in the midst of a crowd of people. He didn't shoot his mouth off in an interview. He didn't post a dumb opinion on Twitter (intially, anyway). On the most base of fucking human levels, that shit is abhorrent and without excuse. Cut and dry. Fuck him.
That's actually rather funny,
the dev of a game that is basically defined as being Super Paper Mario + Cave Story say that Jpn games suck....
I mean it's actually hilarious.
Eh I personally side with Phil Fish on this one. Japanese devs have really disappointed me this gen.
No, it's okay. It's the worst 3D Mario.
Even Capcom knew its dev sucks and started out sourcing its IP
I haven't bought a Japanese game in a while (hence my participation in this thread), but the last Japanese game I remember buying/playing to completion is Devil May Cry 4, and that probably serves as the basis for a lot of my present opinion. When I talk about a PS2-and-prior game design style, I'm talking about how stark it was to play Uncharted a few months prior and then move on to DMC4. To me, Uncharted was a huge leap forward in a smooth, engaging experience whereas DMC4 seemed to make absolutely no new effort outside of what the previous games had done. Each section was its own distinct chunk which graded you and brought you out of the game, the scripted animations and cutscenes and voice acting (as far as memory serves) were all terrible, and I remember being frustrated that I couldn't even compare my scores to my friend's scores (though I may be remembering that wrong). Trials HD is another example of something that blew me away with the progression/comparison meter at the top of the screen, it was a really simple-but-deep game that turned downright addictive with that meter at the top and it was awesome. I don't feel like I've seen that with Japanese games. Not to mention the operating systems on Japanese consoles, the Vita appears to have a horrible UI/UX with none of the seamlessness that one would expect from a device in 2012, and based on Nintendo's comments about a more open online system, it sounds like they're missing the mark again. I hope that helps justify my statements, even if you or others disagreeNobody cares about the first thing. A bunch of people care about the second thing, because it's overly broad, displays a lack of knowledge, and is full of (sometimes kind of goofy) assumptions. If what you mean is "Japan doesn't make very many open-world games or broshooters!" then, well... that's definitely true, but it's a pretty silly complaint! If what you mean is that Japanese devs were slow to pick up on multiplayer it's an accurate complaint for the generation as a whole but not one that I think applies much just at the moment. If you mean that Japanese games don't have appeal to Western gamers anymore that's true... except for all those exceptions like Nintendo's stuff, or Dark Souls, or Street Fighter IV, or (etc. etc.)
As a very general rule, unless you can back it up with examples and explain with knowledge why the obvious exceptions are outliers, almost any kind of "genre X sucks now" or "region Y is bad at development" or whatever sort of generalization is going to wind up inaccurate and come off kind of ignorant. A great deal of the recent trend of criticizing Japanese development has had exactly this problem.