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Fighting Games Weekly | June 9-15 | Q Bomb is Top Tier

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
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Week of June 9th to June 15th, 2014.

Fighting Games Weekly is the weekly discussion thread for all things fighting games. News, events, streams, videos, players, drama, everything fighting game related.

Don't know what to watch right now? Check the FGCPros Twitch Group or Jaxel's Stream Viewer. If you want to watch multiple streams at once, you can use Jaxel's customizable multiviewer as well.

New to FGC-GAF is the FGC-GAF Index which lists the fighting games GAFers plays as a neat reference with some rough statistics to boot. To add yourself to the index, quote this post and use the survey link below. Please remember to save/bookmark the "Edit your response" link so you can edit your responses if/when you buy a game already on the list or a new game that releases in the future.


Last week's thread. An archive of previous FGW threads is available here.​


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Fighting games@ E3
Street Fighter Online Series Begins [ Thursday ]
  • Virgin Gaming's online Street Fighter IV tournament series kicks off in all three regions, with online players competing for a chance to go to Capcom Cup.
The King of New York - A League [ Saturday ]


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Every week, FGW will spotlight one GAFer to get a better picture of their history with fighting games, their preferences, and much more. For this week's FGW Player Spotlight, we will be taking a closer look at our favourite trenchcoat, QisTopTier!

What fighting games do you currently play, what are your all time favourites and why?
The games I currently play are BBCP and USF4.

My all time favorites are Last Blade 2, 3rd Strike, CvS2, and Guilty Gear Accent Core.

Last Blade 2 I loved for the art style, the combos, and the whole thing with the two different styles you can select changing up how characters play.

3rd Strike I love for the music, the parry system leading to insane comebacks that were not tied to a silly gimmick, also it's game play is fairly unique even among other fighting games due to the parry system having such a big control over the pacing of the match.

CvS2 to me is the ultimate traditional 2d fighter. Sure some silly stuff like roll canceling is in it. But the large cast, the different groves from many different games and every fighter changing up depending on what grove you picked makes for an experience that can not be matched by any other game in the genre. The closest we got to that was SFxT but Capcom messed up pretty bad :|

Guilty Gear Accent Core is the best version of Guilty Gear to me, the characters all felt like they had clear design goals based on the way players played the characters and the balance while not perfect was still very very close. To me AC+R suffered from the modern ArcSys mentality of change or add something just to change it.
What are your favorite mechanics from the current selection of fighting games and why? What are your least favorite and why?
My favorite mechanics from modern fighters is the Tag Cancels from SFxT and the Overdrive / Burst combo in BBCP

I like roman cancel type stuff. I feel it let's players be creative with their offense and defensive choices but I really like the way Capcom did it in SFxT, which was perfect for a tag style game. Spend meter and get extended combos and a safe tag in, or potentialy make a move safe at the risk of having two characters get hit. I thought it fit the game perfectly without being too strong and is probably my favorite form of cancels in a fighting game.

The Overdrive / Burst combo in BBCP is a perfect balance of extreme offense and a get out of jail free card. You have the choice of entering a powered up state which amplifys your characters unique traits or escaping a combo. When in overdrive mode once you land a hit your oponent can't burst anymore as well and works well for match enders. Bursting while it's common to see complaints about it from people who don't play ArcSys games isn't really a true get out of jail free card if you use it bad. Any move that can be jump canceled or rapid canceled can be used to bait a burst which are blockable or you an bait it with an invincible move going through it and recoverying before they do, one bad burst and you can potentially lose the round as you are open to a free combo. Bursting while it doesn't sound as good with those things said above is still really powerful especially on getting out of some set ups and on characters that need space controll or against characters that rely on heavy momentum.

My least favorites are Pandora and Xfactor. Pandora is a horrible gimmick only useful for a match ending combo as if you don't kill with it you lose once it's over. Xfactor is just horribly balanced and designed, it's the laziest form of a power up I have ever seen in a fighting game.
What got you into fighting games? Are there any other genre of games you play?
I have an older brother who was into fighting games and like a typical little brother I tagged along and wanted to play, my childhood friend's dad is the owner of our local roller rink which also had a well sized arcade so I had a large selection of fighting games to play for free growing up. In middle school my other childhood friend and I started playing a ton of Tekken and seriously trying to beat each other, which soon turned into us trying to beat each other in Guilty Gear and a little later on trying to beat my brother's friends who were really good at CvS2.

I play just about everything honestly, I love challenging things in general.
What is your favorite fighting game character and why?
The Accent Core version of Ky Kiske, to me he's the most perfectly designed fighting game character. Has normals for every situation, has specials for every situation, and you can change your playstyle up with him on the fly mid match and still be effective due to his many options. His main flaw is his damage is a bit low to compensate for it. But I don't mind it's fun being able to play and be creative with your approaches.
Describe your style of play, and how do you play (local, online, etc.).
I don't think I have a set style of play, I literally do what feels right at the time and what I think will work. If I had to try and pin point it down I'd say my playstyle is to be passive aggressive and analyze how players will play before turning it up a notch myself and adjusting my style to fit the person I'm playing and start making reads based off the data I've collected in the match.
What do you feel are your biggest strengths and weaknesses as a player?
I think my biggest strength is my will to take a loss if it lets me breakdown how the other person plays and come up with game plans to counter them.

My biggest weakness I feel is the same as my strength, some players don't need that extra time to breakdown how they play and wasting it could potentially cost me the game. I also tend to have habits form when I get comfortable playing the same player.

I mostly play Online these days, it's too hard for me to go out and all my friends quit fighting games for the most part :l
Best and worst moments in the your fighting game career?
Best moment was when I went to a Guilty Gear tournament and everyone was laughing when I pulled out a controller, more people laughed when I asked my friend to help me plug it in. Later that day I'm in the semi finals playing the best player there having a whole crowd cheer for me and the final match, final round, my opponent is at pixel life I have about 1/5th life left. I make one bad read and eat an EX drill from eddie in the corner and he spends ALL HIS BAR on ex drills over and over and I could hear the guy muttering PLEASE DIE OH PLEASE DIE PLEASE PLEASE. The last hit of the last ex drill kills me and the guy let out the biggest sigh of relief I have ever heard. I lost but hey the guy steam rolled the other guy in grand finals I had some people buy me drinks and I had a great time! ... Oh this was after not playing the game for 1 1/2 years and going in with no warm ups :D

Second best was getting the biggest win streak at my local mall in Tekken 5 with Wang at 32 straight wins I had to quit because nature called. In the process of getting that I had a guy threaten to stab me in the throat :D He promptly got his ass beat :D For the entire duration that cabinet was there you would always see... "Touch My Wang" in rank 1 :D

Worst moment was at a Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 tournament, the place had no heating and it was already past 11pm in the winter time... I literally dropped a game winning combo because my hand locked up from the cold... then lost.
What do you want from future fighting games?
Less horribly designed comeback factors and more creative characters.
Who should be on next week's GAF Player Spotlight?
Tik-Tok because he has a Q avatar


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Super Desperation Radio [ 9:30PM EDT | 6:30 PDT ]
  • Hellpockets and various other members of the KoF community discuss KoF and happenings in the FGC.
Gootecks & Mike Ross Show [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Out of the ashes of Cross Counter Live rises a new discussion show from Gootecks and Mike Ross!
Marvel Mondays [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Out of the ashes of The BOX Arena, comes the San Diego FGC's newest organized weekly for UMvC3.
UltraChenTV: First Attack & Lv3 Focus [ 11:30PM EDT | 8:30PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.


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Kachitagari TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Bon-chan, Kazunoko and Fuudo's new show, focusing primarily on SSFIV AE ranked matches but is branching off into other games as well.
NYC VF [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • NYC VF crew presents VF5:FS tournaments casuals out of The Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
The Break Weekly [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • New Jersey's largest weekly featuring UMvC3 and Injustice.
The On Blast Show [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • JamessMK & DarKNaTaS host a raw and uncut weekly talk show discussing events in the FGC with various FGC personalities.
UltraChenTV: The Tuesday Show [ 11:30PM EDT | 8:30PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.
The Show That Sucks [ 1AM EDT (following day) | 10PM PDT ]
  • iPlaywinner hosts a weekly talk show featuring alpha stream monsters Harrison and Honzo Gonzo.


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Game Spot Versus KoF Casuals (JP) [ 7PM JST | 6AM EDT | 3AM PDT ]
  • KoF 1998UM, KoF 2002UM and KoF XIII C action from Japan.
TOPANGA TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Description needed.
Next Level Battle Circuit [ 8PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • NYC's biggest weekly at The Next Level Arcade in Brooklyn featuring SSFIV AE, UMvC3 and TTT2. If the Teamsp00ky link is not working, it is likely on the backup stream on Arturo's channel.
Wednesday Night Fights [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]


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HBTB Live [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • Hold Back To Block hosts a weekly roundtable discussion of various happenings in the FGC.
Melee It On Me [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • A bi-weekly Smash podcast discussing recent events, news and issues in the Smash community, hosted by Scar, Prog, Cactuar and Sheridan.
Ghost Battle Series [ 9PM CST | 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Galloping Ghost Arcade presents an Injustice weekly out of Chicago.
The Fray [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • A weekly FGC talk show hosted by iPlaywinner, featuring a varying, ensemble cast of prominent members of the fighting game community.
ATP LIVE! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Aris' new weekly show, discussing whatever he wants to! The format resembles old ATP podcasts.
The Runback Season 4 [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]
  • The UMvC3 and KoF XIII branch of Wednesday Night Fights also hosted at Super Arcade in Walnut, California.


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The Smash Break Bi-Weekly [ 6PM EDT | 3PM PDT ]
  • The Break hosts a new Melee bi-weekly to replace Rokunaya Bi-Weeklies which are ending.
Thank God It's Team Stickbug [ 7PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • Arturo streams a BlazBlue and Guilty Gear bi-weekly out of Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
KaoTV! (JP) [ 11PM JST | 10AM EDT | 7AM PDT ]
SALTY! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • A weekly Skullgirls event hosted by members of the Skullgirls development team, often featuring preview builds of the game.


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Rebel Up [ Secondary ] [ 7PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • Super Arcade's anime bi-weekly, featuring GG, BB, P4A, SG, Gundam and older anime games as well.


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GGPO VanBats [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Weekly GGPO Vampire Savior ranbats streamed by GAFer Rotanibor.
Super Smash Sundays [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Level|Up and Team OXY partner up to create a new weekly for the SoCal Melee community, featuring doubles and singles.


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On GAF we have various members that stream fighting games from time to time too. If you would like to add your channel to this thread, send me a PM.
Additionally, if you want to really get involved, you may want to check out the various OTs for specific games:
GAF isn't the only FG community in town though. Here are a whole bunch of other FG communities across the internet that may be of interest:
  • 8WayRun - Soul Calibur franchise community
  • DOACentral - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Dream Cancel - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more US-centric
  • Dustloop - Forums/community for Arc System Works-developed games
  • Eventhubs - Frequently updated news blog, resource and forums for all things fighting games
  • FreeStepDodge - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Homing Cancel - Arcana Heart community
  • iPlaywinner - Large fighting game news site and resource, and the home to Teamsp00ky and iPlaywinner
  • Jet Upper - UK-centric news source and community
  • Mayonaka Midnight - Persona 4 Arena community and resource
  • Melty Bread - Melty Blood community
  • Mizuumi - A resource for various "poverty" games
  • Orochinagi - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more EU-centric
  • Reddit Fighters - Reddit's own fighting game community subreddit
  • Shoryuken - The largest FG community and multigame resource on the web, with a large Capcom games community
  • Skullheart - fan Skullgirls community and resource made official
  • TekkenZaibatsu - Tekken franchise community
  • Test Your Might - Mortal Kombat and Injustice community and resource
  • UKFGC - UK-centric news source and community
  • Smash Boards - The largest Smash Bros. Community™
  • VFDC - Virtua Fighter franchise community site

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If you have any suggestions for the OP, please do not hesitate to post in this thread or PM me to let me know.
 

Silky

Banned
Damn this week went fast.

Anyway, E3! Fighting Games! KI, MK, Persona 4 Arena U, Guilty Gear Xrd, potential new Capcom game, Pokken, Yagatarasu...!!! Excite excite!
 

Dahbomb

Member
The calm before the storm.

I deem FGW as the safe sanctuary from the console wars and fanboy shitstorm that is bound to occur in the new few days.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Really feeling the excitement for E3 now. Gonna sit at home all day tomorrow
because I have no fucking job sadface
and watch E3 while painting gunpla.
 

Rhapsody

Banned
Nice interview
Best moment was when I went to a Guilty Gear tournament and everyone was laughing when I pulled out a controller, more people laughed when I asked my friend to help me plug it in. Later that day I'm in the semi finals playing the best player there having a whole crowd cheer for me and the final match, final round, my opponent is at pixel life I have about 1/5th life left. I make one bad read and eat an EX drill from eddie in the corner and he spends ALL HIS BAR on ex drills over and over and I could hear the guy muttering PLEASE DIE OH PLEASE DIE PLEASE PLEASE.

What jerks though lol
 

Nyoro SF

Member
My least favorites are Pandora and Xfactor. Pandora is a horrible gimmick only useful for a match ending combo as if you don't kill with it you lose once it's over. Xfactor is just horribly balanced and designed, it's the laziest form of a power up I have ever seen in a fighting game.

Q forgot to add his favorite mechanic from his favorite anime fighter!
 
The calm before the storm.

I deem FGW as the safe sanctuary from the console wars and fanboy shitstorm that is bound to occur in the new few days.

You are assuming we can even get here during E3

and I could hear the guy muttering PLEASE DIE OH PLEASE DIE PLEASE PLEASE.

Hahaha, man, you know you did something good if your opponent feels that desperate to kill your character.
 

vulva

Member
Keep reading.
I did, it's still extremely narrow. Watch some of the more recent films by someone like Kiarostami to get an idea of how a strong narrative can exist and create a complete experience without having it lead to an ending of sorts.
 
Pokken reveal is gonna be hype as fuck

maining Machamp guaranteeeeeeed

I really want to get hype for Pokken but I'm also scared as fuck for disappointment

But if it has Primeape I'm maining Primeape day one and I hope it has more than just fighting type Pokemon.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
I'm really curious what the scope of Pokken will be. Will they include all of the Pokemon? Or just focus on a select few like some recent titles have done? I think I'd rather them just give a select number some shine and flesh them out a lot more than just what you'll typically find in Stadium/the mainline series.
 
What are you expecting it to be, exactly? Smash Bros, traditional fighter, Pokemon Stadium U...?

It'll probably be it's own thing. Or play like Naruto Ninja storm.

I'm really curious what the scope of Pokken will be. Will they include all of the Pokemon? Or just focus on a select few like some recent titles have done? I think I'd rather them just give a select number some shine and flesh them out a lot more than just what you'll typically find in Stadium/the mainline series.

I thought it was inferred that it was fighting type pokemon only. I don't know how true that is though.
 

smurfx

get some go again
The calm before the storm.

I deem FGW as the safe sanctuary from the console wars and fanboy shitstorm that is bound to occur in the new few days.
is there a neogaf or FGW private chat on twitch? someone should make one so we can discuss e3 just in case neogaf has its usual e3 crash.
 
I know Pokken sounds like Pokemon + Tekken, but let's also remember that ken means fist in Japanese and they could be going for a "Pokemon Fist" meaning so really the gameplay could be anything and not necessarily Tekken with a Pokemon skin.
 
I know Pokken sounds like Pokemon + Tekken, but let's also remember that ken means fist in Japanese and they could be going for a "Pokemon Fist" meaning so really the gameplay could be anything and not necessarily Tekken with a Pokemon skin.

Well this is the image associated with the possible game
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LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
Damn this week went fast.

Anyway, E3! Fighting Games! KI, MK, Persona 4 Arena U, Guilty Gear Xrd, potential new Capcom game, Pokken, Yagatarasu...!!! Excite excite!

Might actually be one of the craziest E3's for fighting games ever. Can add Smash 4 WiiU/3ds to that list too.
 

mollipen

Member
So, if anyone is going to be watching it, I'll be in Capcom's SFIV Editor Elimination Exhibition at E3. Please tune in if you want to watch me totally humiliate myself.
 

Riposte

Member
I want Heihachi to be playable in Pokken as the only human in the entire game. No explanation either.
 
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