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Fighting Games Weekly | Nov 18-24 | WELCOME THRILLHO

Shouta

Shouta

Member
https://twitter.com/uryoryon/status/403744089553633280

Uryo on Elena

Slide is strong. Her overheads are long and fast. Her jump is slow-moving. If you hit the EX DP, you knock them all the way to the top. Her EX overhead is ridiculously fast. Her FA is floating. She feels kind of like Sakura. Feels like a character strong at controlling the match. With a bit of research time, she could be really strong.
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Reason I'm translating Uryo's is the only one I follow on Twitter that has posted any impressions of the game yet. Fuudo hasn't typed anything up, lol.
 
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Kimosabae

Banned
Ugh, the lack of FADCable SRK was the most interesting thing about Oni. He was a Shoto character that had to play defense because he doesn't benefit from the braindead OS and was rewarded with sick meter relevant damage when he landed a hit.


Viper FADC +4 on block???? My meterless Focus Attack training will finally be rewarded!

Might finally pick up Ibuki now that she can meterless, too.
 
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Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
Some players don't believe low jumping characters like Hakan can jump over a standing Hugo lol
 
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Arde5643

Member
DeeJay got buffed fairly well:

SRK said:
Dee Jay

(via yoshy047)

Far standing MP start-up reduced from 7F to 6F
Far standing HP meaty hit floats the opponent on counter-hit
Crouching LK start-up reduced from 5F to 4F
Crouching MP hitbox size increased
Crouching MK damage increased from 70 to 80
Crouching HP hitbox size increased
Air Slasher chip increased from 12 to 15
LK Double Rolling Sobat now -3 on block (correction via haku623)
Sobat Festival forward movement increased
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Nothing was nerfed it seems.
 
D

Dahbomb

Member
Akuma

Crouching HK can not be cancelled into Shun Goku Satsu (via _BNBBN_)
Back jump Zanku Hadoken has 2 more frames of recovery
HP Goshoryuken can only be Focus cancelled on the first hit, invincibility reduced from 6F to 5F


Cammy

Combo damage and stun reduced.
Crouching LK start-up now 4F
Crouching HP reduce from +7 to +5 on hit
Crouching LK no longer can be chained
Cannon Strike height restriction reduced, landing recovery increased from 5F to 9F


Chun-Li

(via _BNBBN_)

Jump reduced from 41F to 36F
EX Kikoken now knocks down
UC2 (Kikoshou) damage increased by 50
EX Hazanshu now breaks armor
Vitality increased to 950
DF+LK hitbox expanded, start-up 10F
EX Spinning Bird Kick hitbox expanded
UC2 (Kikoshou) invincible until 9F, until start-up


Dhalsim

Standing MK does 2 hits, 200 stun (via _BNBBN_)

(via perico2321 [1, 2])

Standing MP start-up reduced from 10F to 9F, -1 on hit and block
Standing HP damage increased from 75 to 80, +1 on hit
Standing MK Damage 40*30, stun 100*100
DB+LK damage increased from 30 to 40
DB+MK slightly less pushback on hit and block
DB+HK damage increased from 90 to 100
LK Yoga Blast has slightly reduced hurtbox
MK Yoga Blast start-up reduced from 15F to 14F
EX Yoga Blast damage increased from 90*50 to 90*60, hitbox slightly expanded forward
EX Yoga Flame damage increased from 50*70 to 70*70, hitbox slightly expanded forward
EX Yoga Blast now causes soft knockdown instead of hard
UC2 (Yoga Shangri-La) throw range slightly increased
 
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Dahbomb

Member
Dudley

(via Crue_)

Stand HP hitbox slightly expanded forward and downward
Stand HK has less pushback on counter-hit
Crouching LP hitbox slightly expanded forward
Crouching MK start-up now 7F
F+HK hitbox slightly expanded forward
All Target Combo damage increased by 10
Light Machine Gun Blow -1 on block
Normal Short Swing Blow throw invincible until the end of active frames
EX Short Swing Blow throw invincible until the first hit
 
Shouta

Shouta

Member
UltraDavid said:
Amount of surprise re Hugo: literally zero. In fact I might actually have negative surprise on this one
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Yeah. I'm not surprised either. He sucks in SFxT other than if you're into straight up guessing with stuff. Itazan saw Uryo's tweet and was like "He's too big, it's impossible!? That gets my heart going!" Damn him and his Grappler love, lol.
 
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LordJim

Member
Shouta said:
Yeah. I'm not surprised either. He sucks in SFxT other than if you're into straight up guessing with stuff. Itazan saw Uryo's tweet and was like "He's too big, it's impossible!? That gets my heart going!" Damn him and his Grappler love, lol.
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If they retain EX-Bacbbreaker properties, it will be interesting
 
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OceanBlue

Member
Kimosabae said:
Yeah, you're right. Fair enough. He still won't be as scary on KND as Akuma even with that.

Is that a 2012 change? Thought it was 7 frames.
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Nah, it's always been 5 frames as long as I've been playing. Gouken's is 6 too, I think. The difference is that Ryu's sweep is like -18 while Gouken's is -4 or something. :p
 
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CountBlack

Member
So all the Deejay nerfs were just translation errors?
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~Devil Trigger~

In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
ian to the max said:
  • Far standing LK is now cancellable
  • Crouching MP now +3 on hit (from +1)
  • Kongoshin will no longer activate with DF, F, DF motion
  • Hyakki Gosai (Demon Flip throw) stun reduced from 200 to 160
  • LP Senkugoshoha has slightly expanded hitbox
  • EX Tatsumaki Gorasen has expanded hitbox (hits crouchers)

Courtesy of USD. (I'm unsure of the self-promotion rules around here, so let me know if I should take this link out.)
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It took Capcom 10 games to realize the old bag should be able to combo off cr.MP....
 
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alstein

Member
Sheroking said:
Nerfing EX Headbutt sounds... stupid.

It's like his only thing. I guess Ocho has purpose again and his crossup is better... but still.
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Honda wasn't bad before, and with the nerfs most of the vortexers are getting, I can see why they did it.
I think he'll probably keep his tier placement, but have fewer bad matchups.
 
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xCobalt

Member
~Devil Trigger~ said:
It took Capcom 10 games to realize the old bag should be able to combo off cr.MP....
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I took a closer look at the frame data and Gouken will most likely be only able to combo it point blank. There might be some range but it definitely won't be anything like Ryu's cr.mk into fireball. The ability to combo is also assuming the additional frame advantage comes from increased hit stun rather than decreased recovery.
 
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Imm0rt4l

Member
~Devil Trigger~ said:
It took Capcom 10 games to realize the old bag should be able to combo off cr.MP....
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when you're right in the other guy's grill maybe. Goukens corner combos would probably be stupid good otherwise. The character is pretty poorly designed it seems, balancing him seems to be difficult without overpowering him I guess.
 
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Arde5643

Member
Rose changes:

Aristobule from SRK said:
Rose
Backdash 21f before 20f after

Crouch light punch 20 -> 30
Crouch light kick 30 -> 40
Crouch medium punch 60 -> 70

All soul spiral 100 -> 110
soul spiral ex 120 -> 130 invicibility frame 11f -> 13f

Medium soul spark 22f -> 20f
Heavy soul spark 29f -> 27f

Illusion spark 12f -> 10f
BIG CHANGE Soul Satelite 214x2+ppp -> 214x2+kkk
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Luffy should be quite happy.
 
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