I don't mind about remakes, but remaking FF VI would be a huge task, bigger than remaking FF VII, in my opinion.
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Final Fantasy VI interview details scrapped events, characters
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I don't mind about remakes, but remaking FF VI would be a huge task, bigger than remaking FF VII, in my opinion.
blankempathy
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I always thought it was weird how Edgar barely reacts to seeing Sabin after you reunite and hes in your party. I've gotten Edgar without getting Sabin at all and it all pretty much plays out the same. I think Sabin gets a line or 2. Edgar doesn't say anything different.
The world of ruin part of the game is definitely weaker compared to the first part.
It's amazing in its own way, the way each character goes on with its life and they all have a second part of their life with different friends and activity i love it.
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I feel that they game could have been much fleshed out in terms of character stories. It seems like they probably ran out of time. I hope if they do remake it they will include more of these scrapped content.
The way the game is structured and its aesthetics could do really well now.
The way the game is structured and its aesthetics could do really well now.
blankempathy
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I wouldn't say weaker but its open ended nature definitely hurts its narrative. it has some neat side quests and does expand on some characters more personal side. Sabin does kinda get shafted and I do wonder if its because he could be killed off, If they made a remake I definitely would love to see them expand that development to lesser characters like gogo, mog, umaro. Also create more variations of the ending depending on who you got. Instead of having mostly Edgar/Setzer/Celes in almost everyone's ending cut scene because they are mandatory to finish the game. Also tell me why Banon is Duncan now!
It seems like they really got attached for a while to making games that were sort of short story anthologies focusing on one character at a time, like Live A Live, some of the SaGa games, and Legend of Mana.
BocoDragon
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I don't believe so.
Both VI and VII remakes require them to start from scratch, and they can reuse no assets. They would both be entirely new games, essentially.
But VII is more literal in what it depicted, leaning on FMV to detail complex action in its story scenarios, and so there is much more that has to be painstakingly recreated in current graphical fidelity. VII has a hard blueprint to adhere to.
VI, on the other hand, is much less literal and much more of a representational depiction of events, and so modern artists would have more freedom to depict events (ie the opera scene, the escape from the magitek factory), however they wanted. The blueprint is looser. And therefore, the task to translate it to modern graphical standards is easier.
family_guy
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I think that's mostly because of how open ended it becomes after that. It's like how people can finish Skyrim in about 5 hours but they'd be missing alot of interesting side plots if they sped through it.
DrunkShogun
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It actually would. A think a full on remake is never going to happen but a greatly enhanced version like the ff4 psp is possible. Would hope they add on more structure to the latter half of the game. Ff6 after years is something I'm not sure about.
dr guildo
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Hmmm, I agree !
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
I've still not beaten the game due to getting lost from that point. I don't know if I missed a line of text but I had no idea what it wanted me to do next.
swarley64
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Yeah. When I was looking at the Final Fantasy wiki the other day, most of the screenshots were from the ugly-ass PC version. A whole generation is going to play it thinking those awful sprites are how the game is supposed to look and that's really depressing.
DrROBschiz
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Im still holding out hope that the steam mod community can somehow fix it
Look! The Pie!
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If I'm reading the interview correctly, this Angela character would have been a middle-aged woman? That would have been interesting to see, since older female party members were practically nonexistent back then (still are, to an extent). Still, FFVI had too many characters to begin with, so I can see why she was cut.
DiipuSurotu
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I'm not sure how old she was supposed to be. Tetsuya Nomura (who was art director on FFVI) made a drawing of the original cast and I think Angela is the right-most character in it:
The male character in the middle is probably the male "Terra", while Lara is next to Strago and Relm at the bottom.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Man imagine if an FFVI remake looked like this!
(Replace Noctis with Sabin and the Catoblepas with a Tyrannosaurus Rex)
YankeeDonB
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Man imagine if an FFVI remake looked like this!
(Replace Noctis with Sabin and the Catoblepas with a Tyrannosaurus Rex)
Oh my poor heart! At least I can listen to Terra's theme while exploring in XV.
Choppasmith
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I'm not sure how old she was supposed to be. Tetsuya Nomura (who was art director on FFVI) made a drawing of the original cast and I think Angela is the right-most character in it:
The male character in the middle is probably the male "Terra", while Lara is next to Strago and Relm at the bottom.
:O I've never seen this before. Just.. wow!
Morrigan Stark
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Man, Nomura's art was actually legit good when he just stuck to a more "classic" Anime style (like this, and FF7's character designs). His more "realistic" character designs (FF8 and later) are just such complete garbage, what a shame. FF should have stayed heavily stylized.I'm not sure how old she was supposed to be. Tetsuya Nomura (who was art director on FFVI) made a drawing of the original cast and I think Angela is the right-most character in it:
The male character in the middle is probably the male "Terra", while Lara is next to Strago and Relm at the bottom.
Same with the environmental art. Look at how drab and bland the environments are in FF15, at least from what we've seen so far (saw a bunch of screenshots in the Console screenshot thread and.... mehhhh). Compared to the amazing, fantastical vistas of FF6 and 7 and even 4 and 5, it's just so... boring. I may hate the game with a passion, but if there's a single thing Xenoblade did right it's the environments and vistas, they really bring about a sense of wonder. Meanwhile FF15 looks somehow more boring than actual real-life vistas I've seen/been to in person, lol.
Having modern tech render the amazing art and fantastical Steampunk world of FFVI would be cool, I'll admit it. But I just don't trust modern Square to get it right whatsoever. Not just the visuals but they'd probably butcher the gameplay and everything else too.
How About No
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I now remember that Bart Fatima's ancestors in Xenogears, Roni and Rene, were a nudge nudge wink to Edgar and Sabin.
That's pretty neat to see! Now is that char in the bottom left Gau or Male Esper Terra I wonder?
Now this is the stuff that gets my hopes up for things that will never happen, and is one of my only problems with FFVI. Most of the world feels the same, most towns use the same tileset and feel redundant culturally and storywise. If they were all a little more unique ala Narshe or Vector...wow, what a game that would be.
Hey now I like early animoo-shonen Nomura as much as anybody but you'll have to fite me on his FFVIII designs.
I also really appreciate the American-countryside-but-with-some-fantastical elements and the grand-scale realistic modern/neoclassical mix of the cities. Kinda what I liked about FFVII and FFVIII's world but a little more toned down from the fantastical elements.
I'm not sure how old she was supposed to be. Tetsuya Nomura (who was art director on FFVI) made a drawing of the original cast and I think Angela is the right-most character in it:
The male character in the middle is probably the male "Terra", while Lara is next to Strago and Relm at the bottom.
That's pretty neat to see! Now is that char in the bottom left Gau or Male Esper Terra I wonder?
Now this is the stuff that gets my hopes up for things that will never happen, and is one of my only problems with FFVI. Most of the world feels the same, most towns use the same tileset and feel redundant culturally and storywise. If they were all a little more unique ala Narshe or Vector...wow, what a game that would be.
Hey now I like early animoo-shonen Nomura as much as anybody but you'll have to fite me on his FFVIII designs.
I also really appreciate the American-countryside-but-with-some-fantastical elements and the grand-scale realistic modern/neoclassical mix of the cities. Kinda what I liked about FFVII and FFVIII's world but a little more toned down from the fantastical elements.
TRUE ORDER
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First time seeing that picture. Nice one from Nomura, he should go back in time so he could make something like this lolI'm not sure how old she was supposed to be. Tetsuya Nomura (who was art director on FFVI) made a drawing of the original cast and I think Angela is the right-most character in it:
The male character in the middle is probably the male "Terra", while Lara is next to Strago and Relm at the bottom.
YankeeDonB
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Almost certainly Gau. Although I do see the facial resemblance with central character now that you mention it...
I thought the lady on the right was Celes at first, but right, obviously she's just off center...
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Those parts in Final Fantasy VI and Xenogears were actually written by the same person -- Kaori Tanaka! She and Nomura were good friends; according to her, Nomura was the one who suggested the basic idea for Citan Uzuki even though he wasn't part of the Xenogears development team.
Along with that picture he also released this one featuring Vargas and Sabin (who looks like a more badass version of Zell, lol):
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1ZJGw63.jpg[/IMG]And this one of FFV (Nomura was the monster designer for that game):
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/aVOmI4a.jpg[/IMG]Morrigan Stark
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Gladly. They were pure trash.
Can't say I agree. It's boring as hell. The great parts of FFVII were the fantastical, larger-than-life aspects, like Midgard, Cosmo Canyon, etc.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Gladly. They were pure trash.
Can't say I agree. It's boring as hell. The great parts of FFVII were the fantastical, larger-than-life aspects, like Midgard, Cosmo Canyon, etc.
Midgar... fantastical?
RoninChaos
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The game is the most charming final fantasy has ever been while remaining serious. I don't think the Square that exists today could remake this game and do it justice.
I'm currently playing Final Fantasy VI for the first time, and I'm already in love with it. I always loved Chrono Trigger, and I didn't think there would be another game of that calibre, but FFVI is really something else. I'm over 20 years late, but I'm finally seeing what all the fuss was about.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I'm not seeing anything of note; the cut content was probably cut much earlier in development. Mog seems like he was joining the party at the start though, unless this is just for demonstration (like Aerith being in the bombing mission in FFVII's demo).
Those pictures of Chrono Trigger on the other hand... That weird floating orb in the middle screenshot almost looks like it could be a container for the Frozen Flame...
Who are the characters in that scene? The two on the left are Schala and Janus, and is that Chrono on the right?
I imagine the thing is the center is a prototype for the Mammon Machine
Which technically was the container for the Frozen Flame
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Yeah it looks like them. And yeah this could be a prototype for the Mammon Machine, especially since the final design of the Mammon Machine started out as the initial design for Robo...
DrROBschiz
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Man
FF6 is just so good and near to my heart. Could they really capture its magic once again with a remake?
I wonder....
FF6 is just so good and near to my heart. Could they really capture its magic once again with a remake?
I wonder....
Yeah it looks like them. And yeah this could be a prototype for the Mammon Machine, especially since the final design of the Mammon Machine started out as the initial design for Robo...
Woah! I've never seen this concept art before. That's really weird, it's really different from the designs we eventually got.
I just want to see them try. The original is my favorite game ever, and it's not going away. I'd love to see SE take on that universe again.
Yeah, I wasn't entirely sure if there was cut content in those previews or not, really just wanted to post them in this thread.
I'm less familiar with Chrono Trigger, I remember reading it had some changes too. My brother finished that game, I didn't. One day....
DiipuSurotu
Banned
It's a drawing by Masato Kato, the "story planner" of the game. Chrono Trigger didn't have a unique scenario writer due to all the brainstorming and collaborators involved in its development, but Kato was the closest to one. As such, he drew this piece of concept art before the actual character designer Akira Toriyama reworked the designs.