What exactly did they change about Paradigm from the first game.
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What exactly did they change about Paradigm from the first game.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Lack of dumbass camera pans, and also lack of long leader animations to signal the change!
Fantastic. That was, surprisingly, my one big gripe about the battle system in FF XIII. That's the change it needed to have proper flow.
djplaeskool
Member
Man, watching this is getting me so hyped.
Nice touch, NPCs react accordingly when monsters appear in the vicinity and the system goes to the Moogle Clock.
Nice touch, NPCs react accordingly when monsters appear in the vicinity and the system goes to the Moogle Clock.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Definitely. The long animations and camera pans reduced efficiency and speed. I disliked it a lot. Nice to see an improvement here. Now to see if they made any tweaks or improvements to the system or animations.
Maybe it's because Noel isn't the controlled character, but his animations look... slow.
Also voiced NPC dialogue, yay (ie: when you talk to some of them with "talk" icons on their head, they appear to actually engage in a conversation with Serah). And they react to monsters being there! :O
I do wish the player would set his Opti--Paradigms (>_<) up properly and reorder them if it's possible. Changing to BLA/ATK as a first move in a battle slows things down. :/
Edit:
So essentially, it seems like the Moogle Clock works like an "Auto-Smoke". If successful, you're basically bestowed with buffs and PEs in one fell-swoop. If not, you get nil. Mmm...
If you fail, would the enemies get buffs themselves, or is this wishful thinking on my part?
When the person failed to hit it before it ran out, the enemy had both a defense and strength buff.
Also damn is the PS3 version pretty.
Look at Serah's hair.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
That's what I like to hear.
It's also nice to see people using Defenders properly.
Oh hey, that theme was in Final Fantasy XIII.
Also now more confirmed (because of where this streamer is) is the reuse of music from XIII, so it's not only the music on the OST that's in-game.
This was kinda mentioned before, but it's in there nicely.
The track was Separate Paths from XIII.
OMG morrreeeee Lebreau! Yesssssssss.
This was kinda mentioned before, but it's in there nicely.
The track was Separate Paths from XIII.
OMG morrreeeee Lebreau! Yesssssssss.
I love that track. The game looks really good, and it's great to see that leveling up isn't time consuming anymore.
Seven Force
Banned
Love those Moogle animations, heh.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I hope those formation configurations stay static during battle rather than characters I don't want moving close to each other... moving close to each other.
...This looks better than FFXIII so far in terms of the battle system (I don't think people want narrative spoilers at the moment, but holy crap there's exposition). I'll have to play it for myself to see if I like the changes. The original battle system needed some presentation and fundamental tweaks (ie: I don't like FFXIII's CSB very much; there are other battle/ability systems in the series that I enjoy a lot more (ex: ADB, ATB Kai/Dresspheres, CTB, etc)).
From what I've seen so far, the changes have been for the better, though.
Another FFXIII theme: Promised Eternity
...This looks better than FFXIII so far in terms of the battle system (I don't think people want narrative spoilers at the moment, but holy crap there's exposition). I'll have to play it for myself to see if I like the changes. The original battle system needed some presentation and fundamental tweaks (ie: I don't like FFXIII's CSB very much; there are other battle/ability systems in the series that I enjoy a lot more (ex: ADB, ATB Kai/Dresspheres, CTB, etc)).
From what I've seen so far, the changes have been for the better, though.
Another FFXIII theme: Promised Eternity
Axelstream
Member
And suddenly, after listening to some of the OST and watching a little stream footage, I want this game. D: Really digging (most of!) the soundtrack and the gameplay updates I've seen. I'll try not to keep my hopes too high for the story/characters though, since it doesn't look like a whole lot has changed quality-wise in that department. But man, how I wish it would.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'm really liking what I see of this game 
djplaeskool
Member
The musical transitions from exploration to moogle clock/combat is awesome.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
This battle theme is pretty awesome. Transitions between regular to aggressive work well.
Oh look, Serah's Theme.
Oh look, Serah's Theme.
ZephyrFate
Banned
There are aggressive mixes for most of the areas that work in a Skies of Arcadia dynamism where it flows from the regular theme into battle seamlessly.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah! That's what was crossing my mind and I couldn't put my finger on the game.
I love that the enemies get buffed whenever you fail. Combine that with a Chaos mode (since you can't retry) and we're in business.
Noel's initial cast speed is slow, but then he speeds up. He really might take after Snow or Hope, then.
RedRedSuit
Member
Getting hyped... dare I?
Same I thought it would only be in certain important conversations.
BIOWARE STORYTELLING.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I didn't realise Serah was wielding a two-handed sword. That'll slow down her Attacker speed. Noel's initial attack takes time, but it seems like he speeds up between the last two.
...I need to find my stopwatch. This is bugging me. But a stream wouldn't be the best thing to test it on because of lag and stuff.
Er... dumb question regarding the Moogle Clock, but... is it the way that the player is playing it that he's missing the enemy sometimes, or is the control kind of weird for that bit?
...I need to find my stopwatch. This is bugging me. But a stream wouldn't be the best thing to test it on because of lag and stuff.
Er... dumb question regarding the Moogle Clock, but... is it the way that the player is playing it that he's missing the enemy sometimes, or is the control kind of weird for that bit?
Also, both their weapons seem to change with paradigm role too, so maybe it's different per role?
The camera sometimes gets janky in those parts.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
No install. First game didn't have one either.
Unless of course we're talking homebrew ripping...
Internet says 7MB, which could just be the save file for all I know.
And they all cite miladesn lol
No install, similar to FFXIII.
Awesome. Now to wonder whether installing the full 360 game gives it any performance advantage over the PS3. I'm guessing no though.
Seven Force
Banned
Really loving how streamlined everything seems to be now.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Did Serah just wipe her forehead while she was running? :O
Oh, he's doing a sidequest.
Bow for Blaster (though it seems like a situational thing because she has a sword in hand for Blaster sometimes--though that's after getting a PE to strike the enemy to near-Stagger; or to use the -strike attacks), two-handed sword for Attacker. I wish they gave her a one-handed sword to make her more flexible and faster. I haven't noticed a change in Noel's stuff, though.
Oh, he's doing a sidequest.
I completely missed the Defender one if there was a change, but at this point it seems so.
Bow for Blaster (though it seems like a situational thing because she has a sword in hand for Blaster sometimes--though that's after getting a PE to strike the enemy to near-Stagger; or to use the -strike attacks), two-handed sword for Attacker. I wish they gave her a one-handed sword to make her more flexible and faster. I haven't noticed a change in Noel's stuff, though.
Ugh. I noticed that, but I thought that was the player himself. That's kind of disappointing. :/Kagari said:
First thoughts on the stream...
-Framerate is a bit off... is that the stream or the game? =/
-FFXIII music is playing. XIII-2's OST is 302 minutes. That makes a LOT of music for one game if there's XIII music coming back!!
-Ambient sound and music cutting off for the Live Trigger choices is really weird...
(oh, and everything else looks AWESOME)
-Framerate is a bit off... is that the stream or the game? =/
-FFXIII music is playing. XIII-2's OST is 302 minutes. That makes a LOT of music for one game if there's XIII music coming back!!
-Ambient sound and music cutting off for the Live Trigger choices is really weird...
(oh, and everything else looks AWESOME)
ZephyrFate
Banned
What do you mean?
So fun and enjoyable?
That it reminds me how much FFXIII played itself, particularly for the first few chapters.
ZephyrFate
Banned
Glad you can do so much on your own in this game, then.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
He unlocked the
trophy I believe. Didn't catch the second trophy, though. Seems like those throwaway ones are easy, then... so you don't really have to grind for them like you do in Xillia, lol.
After Skyward Sword, my expectations for character animations has gone up quite a bit.
"fought a significant number of battles without using retrying battles"
This is a step in the right direction wrt animation.
After Skyward Sword, my expectations for character animations has gone up quite a bit.
Seven Force
Banned
I'm really enjoying what I'm seeing/hearing so far. Watching the stream actually has me legitimately hyped for this now. (Shame about the stream chat though... >_>)
It's 4 discs, like the stand-alone release, so I would assume yes.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
...I didn't like how that boss fight went just because of the superfluous shifting interfering with efficient staggering... :/
I hope that framerate during the
is due to the stream because that made me a little dizzy.
I hope that framerate during the
Chocobo bit
watching that guy fight the boss and not cancel his ATB earlier to keep the chain going made me cringe
cringe so hard