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[hteng]

maybe not new classes but new weapons or equipments that would unlock certain abilities. and i would prefer class advancement or even combination of classes to produce new classes.

anyway i hope they preserve the party base gameplay like in FFXI but also allow solo opportunities.

man talking about this makes me wanna go back to FFXI

 

[desa]

*drools*

I'm naming my character Desa Taru.

 

[Mandoric]

maybe not new classes but new weapons or equipments that would unlock certain abilities. and i would prefer class advancement or even combination of classes to produce new classes.

anyway i hope they preserve the party base gameplay like in FFXI but also allow solo opportunities.

man talking about this makes me wanna go back to FFXI

Yeah, I'm just presuming that instead of, say, getting Paladin, Samurai, and Puppeteer we'll get a set of knight swords for Gladiators, tachi for Lancers or Marauders, and activators for Pugilists.

I wonder if they're going to throw in AF sets whose skills match old jobs particularly closely. :lol

 

[Rocwell]

I don't think you guys should have high hopes for such classes being added before launch, seems like 5 "Fighter" classes and (I assume) 5 "Mage" classes would be a pretty reasonable amount of classes to work with until the first expansion.

Ehh, 50% mage classes seems high to me and you're not including hybrid classes. When FFXI launched in NA there were 5 pure Mage classes, 6 pure melee classes and 4 hybrid classes, which all tended heavily toward physical attacks in that game.

Another thing to consider is that in FFXIV the tradeskill type classes will also be a part of the party dynamic it seems, so I'm guessing around 15 playable classes will be available at the games' launch, but I wouldn't be surprised by more.

And do you really expect me to believe they're not going to have a knife wielding class in a fantasy mmo? :lol

Most of the function could be handled by, say, patching in for Lancers a variety of katanas and domarus, or a special branch of maces and broadswords for Gladiators.

First of all, this is basically exactly how FFXI functioned, all the jobs had access to various different weapons of different skill ranks which made using weapon types other than your top ranked weapon extremely situational. That's fine but this is a new game and I like the system of one weapon = one set of skills.

Second of all, the idea of a class called "Lancers" using katanas seems extremely silly to me Heck, I think I remember reading that "Archers" wouldn't even use crossbows this time around!

 

[Kronotech]

Lancer skills

鼓舞 槍旗を掲げ、士気を鼓舞する パーティメンバーが目標を攻撃した際にTPを与える - sharing of your TP with allies
フェロシティ 全力で槍を突き出す HPを削り、次の一撃で大ダメージを与える - sacrifice hp to deal major damage
気合 自身に活を入れる HPを削り、TPを増加させる - exchange HP for more TP
コルーション 仲間の陰から槍を突き出す 敵の注目を仲間に集めつつ、その奥から攻撃を繰り出す - sounds like trick attack, change monster's attention to ally
竜剣 槍を巧みに操り、敵を翻弄する 槍で敵の回避力を下げつつ、HPを吸収する - decrease enemy evasion and drain HP.. hmm.. weird

Aw man. I'm a 75DRG in FFXI. I thought I would try something different this time around but looking at these abilities... I just may have to pick up the lance again.

 

[Bento]

Ehh, 50% mage classes seems high to me and you're not including hybrid classes.

Well I think it's pretty plausible that they would do a 50% split, I mean we already have two mage classes announced, one of them speculated as being an Illusionist (CC class perhaps?) and the other being a Druid/Blood Mage/Dark Wizard. So that would leave three spots open (of course assuming that aforementioned speculations are somewhat true) for an elemental mage, a healer and maybe a summoner/bard/something.

When FFXI launched in NA there were 5 pure Mage classes, 6 pure melee classes and 4 hybrid classes, which all tended heavily toward physical attacks in that game

Sure, but did that really turn out that well? I cannot say that I'm a FFXI vet by any means but judging of what I've read it did seem like several classes were severly broken for a long time after launch. Also Square-Enix seem to be trying to streamline the class design in FFXIV quite a bit by bascially pairing together FFXI classes into more fleshed out classes instead of creating another set of niche classes that likely will present the same challange as last time they tried it (assuming my previous assumption regarding balance in FFXI is somewhat correct).

And regarding hybrids, I wouldn't be all that surprised if they would try and stray away from such classes as they've always have been quite a bitch to balance properly : | I'd say the closest thing to hybrid classes we'll see in FFXIV will be the Pugilist and the Druid/Dark Wizard depending on if the latter can heal or not.

And do you really expect me to believe they're not going to have a knife wielding class in a fantasy mmo?

Yeah, that does seem unlikely but I just can't think of a class besides maybe a Bard that would make use of it unless they decide to give the Pugilist the option to use knives since they do seem to have all the abilites the knife based classes usually have. Ninjas perhaps? But once again I wouldn't be surprised if Pugilist are made to be the evasion based tank.

 

[gillty]

zam has translated the q&a part of the article
http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=21825

and the abilities / q&a for classes from famitsu here:
http://www.eorzeapedia.com/2010/03/11/detailed-class-info-from-famitsu-and-4gamer/

 

[Munba]

Beta sites are up.. for who can enter.

/cry

 

[JWong]

That diagram... picture or whatever is very confusing.

Are they fighting a giant enemy crab?

 

[Bento]

http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=21825

Holy crap at the Conjurer class! Elemental magic + Healing? Very interresting. I think Warhammer Online did something similar with their Archmage/Shaman classes but this is taking it a step further as this class might actually be the main magic nuke class of the game as well as being the healer. The question now is, will there be another healing class, and if so, will it be a "pure" healer or another hybrid like this one?

EDIT:

By the way, do we have any information if certain schools of magic are tied to specific class of weapons? Say for example that when the Conjurer uses a staff he can use Fire, Ice, Wind and Water magic and when using a Scepter/Wand he instead gains the ability to use healing magic such as Cure at the expense of no longer being able to use the elemental magic.

 

[Kagari]

Beta sites are up.. for who can enter.

/cry

It begins!

 

[LowParry]

Conjur sounds more my play style. There are more classes to come are there not? No summoner?

 

[GasProblem]

That diagram... picture or whatever is very confusing.

Are they fighting a giant enemy crab?

It is? It shows the attack range of the different jobs, that is what those circles are.

 

[Gromph]

It begins!

If they put servers up today, we should see videos.. soon

 

[Nakazato]

If they put servers up today, we should see videos.. soon

i hope so

edit: hope im reading a mistranslation you cant recover MP
edit 2: I think we will see alchemist before games launch since it doesn't seem like mp resting will be in the game
edit 3: alchemist was already announced DX

 

[Rocwell]

Also Square-Enix seem to be trying to streamline the class design in FFXIV quite a bit by bascially pairing together FFXI classes into more fleshed out classes instead of creating another set of niche classes that likely will present the same challange as last time they tried it (assuming my previous assumption regarding balance in FFXI is somewhat correct).

Job balance is tricky no doubt, but you also have to consider that the more options you give someone, the more likely they are to glom onto something they like. They could quite conceivably make a game with only 4 classes but people would get bored with it. That said, I do think you're right there was definitely a bit of redundancy in FFXI but it was still fun to try out new combinations and everything added to the lore and flavor of the world.

And regarding hybrids, I wouldn't be all that surprised if they would try and stray away from such classes as they've always have been quite a bitch to balance properly : | I'd say the closest thing to hybrid classes we'll see in FFXIV will be the Pugilist and the Druid/Dark Wizard depending on if the latter can heal or not.

This seems like a good point, especially since people will be able to change jobs on the fly now, although I'm still hoping for a way to specialize your character beyond what a given class provides. The job/subjob system spoiled me, I know.

Yeah, that does seem unlikely but I just can't think of a class besides maybe a Bard that would make use of it unless they decide to give the Pugilist the option to use knives since they do seem to have all the abilites the knife based classes usually have. Ninjas perhaps? But once again I wouldn't be surprised if Pugilist are made to be the evasion based tank.

Bards use instruments! Pugilist has steal and a move called blindside that increases damage when you attack from behind an enemy. That sounds slightly different from a backstab critical strike move, so there's still a possibility of an assassin/rogue type class which a Ninja could fill admirably.

From the what I've heard of the armory system I figured that the weapon type equipped had a corresponding skill set, but though I can imagine different weapons sharing certain skills while having different skillsets otherwise. Like a knife user getting say steal and stride in addition to a theoretical hamstring type ability.

 

[Rentahamster]

I'm liking the action and positioning-oriented battle gameplay. It should insert a little more element of skill into playing well.

 

[Firestorm]

Does anyone need a code for the PS3 beta and in-game item? I have no plans to play the final XIV game and would rather play the beta on PC. Just quote this post and first one gets it.

 

[hteng]

Does anyone need a code for the PS3 beta and in-game item? I have no plans to play the final XIV game and would rather play the beta on PC. Just quote this post and first one gets it.

huh? there's a PS3 beta?

if so let me have it

 

[Bookey]

was too late

 

[Jinko]

Beta sites are now open, wheres my invite SE

 

[Zalasta]

Since MP doesn't recover automatically (I assume there is no resting either), seems like having a BRD or RDM-like class in party is going to be all that more important.

 

[hteng]

Since MP doesn't recover automatically (I assume there is no resting either), seems like having a BRD or RDM-like class in party is going to be all that more important.

they didn't say equpiments won't help recover mp, i bet auto refresh is in there somewhere

 

[Munba]

Jp site update with new Battle Music! Pure Uematsu style.

http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/

 

[Rentahamster]

Jp site update with new Battle Music! Pure Uematsu style.

http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/

Not bad, but it doesn't really rank up there among the better battle themes. I can't really put my finger on it. I like the guitar as it's kinda Black Mages-y, but the other melodies are a bit generic sounding.

I really liked the previous music that was on the site, however.

 

[paranoidfortean]

The wait for this game is torturous. I would give FFXI a go again, but .... maybe.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

CORRECTION: Not a party battle, just displaying the different ranges of the jobs. Its the same guy demonstrating various jobs.

Not too far off from FFXI, but seems like there is a wider range for...ranged attacks.

If you ask me, the spear guy should be concentrating on flipping it over to expose it's weak point.

 

[Jinko]

That music is pretty awesome

Hype is through the roof.

 

[LowParry]

I was hoping for some live feeds to check out this morning. But that battle music. Holy hell. Excitement!

 

[carlo6529]

I am glad we are finally getting some screenshots. I am guessing they will start rolling in now.

 

[hiro4]

Did anyone get a confirmation mail that you entered the Beta draw?
Or do you get a mail when you are selected for the beta?

 

[Gromph]

Did anyone get a confirmation mail that you entered the Beta draw?
Or do you get a mail when you are selected for the beta?

You will have confirmation, if you are selected for beta.

 

[Teknoman]

Nevermind, had to refresh. I wonder what those extra chances were for if no one who has entered received anything? Unless they get emails later today or something, because you'd at least see a few "I got in!" posts at various sites.

 

[Gromph]

I dont think the NA site is up yet.

It's up

Here

 

[Jinko]

Hmmm wheres Pai-Pai gone

 

[hiro4]

You will have confirmation, if you are selected for beta.

Thought so, but you never can be to sure
Thanks!

 

[Salz01]

You could look just a page back and get the answer. But no, you are not understanding right. You send in your code to get a new code, then you sign up for the beta using that code and then at some point in the future you may randomly be chosen to participate in some portion of the PS3 beta test. Which won't occur until after the PC beta test, which is after the PC Alpha Test, which hasn't started yet.

Ack!, my bad I missed it when as I got excited. Thank you for answering though.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I'm rather disappointed in my FFXIII code, the code it gives for the FFXIV beta only gets you in the draw for the PS3 beta. It has no use for the Windows beta (which starts first!) and either way it's still a draw, nothing is guaranteed.

I think this is Squenix's way of reminding us how much we are their bitches. Oh well, I still have FFXIII I guess. :lol

 

[Audioboxer87]

So the PC beta has started, any idea on how far behind the PS3 beta will be?

Ta

 

[Gromph]

Hmmm wheres Pai-Pai gone

Maybe crahing his head to a wall.

Beta site is up, but in jp forums are reporting that beta will start on April 1 5PM-7PM.

Anyway client is still not available.

So the PC beta has started, any idea on how far behind the PS3 beta will be?

Ta

Count at last 1-2 months.

 

[Teknoman]

April 1st? Wow...well I guess they didnt give an actual start date for the beta, just when the beta site would be up.

 

[Jinko]

Beta site is up, but in jp forums are reporting that beta will start on April 1 5PM-7PM.

Wait!! April fools day :S

 

[Lothars]

So with the PS3 Promo Code when you sign up using the code does it guarentee you a spot in the beta or is it just a better chance?

I signed up and if I get in great, if not that's fine to but just curious.

 

[Salaadin]

So the PC beta has started, any idea on how far behind the PS3 beta will be?

Ta

I figure that the PC beta took applications in December and is starting now so thats ~3months. The PS3 beta is taking applications now so Id expect that one to open maybe May or June. Its stupid logic to go by but its all I got


Im thinking about going with Lancer. Pugilist is out since I was PUP in FFXI and want to stray away from another h2h job. Ill know for sure if I get into the beta. Reading about the jobs only gets us so much.

 

[Gromph]

So with the PS3 Promo Code when you sign up using the code does it guarentee you a spot in the beta or is it just a better chance?

I signed up and if I get in great, if not that's fine to but just curious.

Better chance i think, but no a spot

 

[hgplayer1]

ok so with the possibility of the beta not starting until the 1st of April, is there a chance they are doing Alpha testing between now and then?

didnt I read that Alpha testers needed high end PCs since there wouldnt be any config options and the game would be running on the highest settings?

 

[desu]

Hmm battle music sounds quite good, still not 100% sold on it. That prolly comes when playing the game.

 

[neojubei]

So all I need to do is register the code with square-enix and i am put in a drawing for the beta?

 

[Gromph]

So all I need to do is register the code with square-enix and i am put in a drawing for the beta?

Yo need to register code, wait for FFXIV promo code, and then re-do the FFXIV beta aplication.

 

[Salaadin]

The FFXIV code is instant when you register. It is not emailed to you. You goto the website and register the code, hit submit, and youll be taken to a screen that says "Game registered, yadda yadda, you are now a bronze member." Scroll down on that same page and itll go into the FFXIV code details and list your code. Print that page to get a copy of your code so you dont lose it.