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Final Fantasy XV E3 2016 New Screenshots
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LouisaFerre
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Some of those look pretty good, but that one with the Garula, jesus christ. SE really needs to get rid of whatever sharpening filter they have and adopt Naughty Dog's AA solution.
I think the issues regarding the camera largely have to do with this attempt to try and make really fast, nimble characters like Noctis but not really putting enough thought into how he sticks to or reacts to moving objects like giant enemies.
One of the things that made KH2FM so good was that pretty much all the high level combat was against enemies somewhat similar to Sora in size, so sticking to the enemy and dodging around them wasn't an issue. I feel that many games in the character action genre already realize this, which is why it seems like there's more of a focus put into delivering challenging human-sized enemies rather than these gigantic monsters. When you want to fight these huge enemies, you can't rely on a lock on, so you need to give the player more direct control and understanding over their positioning and movement. This typically results in a more weighty battle system, and Monster Hunter is a good example of how this might pay off.
When you dig into the Platinum Demo, it's obvious that there's more depth and thought behind the combat mechanics than what is immediately apparent, but things like this tell me that SE still isn't really thinking enough about how those mechanics mesh with the the actual enemy design or content.
I think that's less because of how long it took and more because of how much they're having to cut back on the original target to make it run on the PS4. It was always rough around the edges, though.
I think the issues regarding the camera largely have to do with this attempt to try and make really fast, nimble characters like Noctis but not really putting enough thought into how he sticks to or reacts to moving objects like giant enemies.
One of the things that made KH2FM so good was that pretty much all the high level combat was against enemies somewhat similar to Sora in size, so sticking to the enemy and dodging around them wasn't an issue. I feel that many games in the character action genre already realize this, which is why it seems like there's more of a focus put into delivering challenging human-sized enemies rather than these gigantic monsters. When you want to fight these huge enemies, you can't rely on a lock on, so you need to give the player more direct control and understanding over their positioning and movement. This typically results in a more weighty battle system, and Monster Hunter is a good example of how this might pay off.
When you dig into the Platinum Demo, it's obvious that there's more depth and thought behind the combat mechanics than what is immediately apparent, but things like this tell me that SE still isn't really thinking enough about how those mechanics mesh with the the actual enemy design or content.
I think that's less because of how long it took and more because of how much they're having to cut back on the original target to make it run on the PS4. It was always rough around the edges, though.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Looks fine to me??
I thought the fans didn't care about state-of-the-art graphics and would rather a great gameplay and actual content?
I thought the fans didn't care about state-of-the-art graphics and would rather a great gameplay and actual content?
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Some of them are nice and show a clear IQ improvement.
Flying Regalia March
Flying Regalia June
Edges are much sharper, added field blur helps too.
The design of the vehicle is definitely better now. Looks less ridicolous.
BasilZero
Member
What the hell, that background yo.....
The Last One
Member
I don't think it's a new design. It's probably a later upgrade of the car.
Days Gone was even made on a licensed engine (UE4), so it's not like this was all done in borderline incomprehensible byte specific code.
Some of them are nice and show a clear IQ improvement.
Flying Regalia June
This looks seriously cool.
runnin_blue
Banned
As much as I am trying to, I just cannot get past how ridiculous the main characters look. So much about this game looks awesome, the environments, the scale etc. But I just don't think I could handle 20-50 hours staring at those characters. If's a shame.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
All this negativity is saddening me 
I'm sure it will be a fun game.
I'm sure it will be a fun game.The Last One
Member
This is really sad. We have like 10 images in the OP but only 2 are the focus xD
All this negativity is saddening me
I still believe.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Are we getting another XV trailer today?
Only a little over 3 months from release and we still haven't gotten a decent story trailer with English dialogue...
Only a little over 3 months from release and we still haven't gotten a decent story trailer with English dialogue...
All this negativity is saddening me
Will it? The Platinum Demo certainly didn't convince me
The spear goes through his hand XD
who approved this screenshot lol
overall still looks pretty nice to me though!
YankeeDonB
Member
Supposedly Tabata is doing an ATR at 2:15 PM Pacific today.
But I wouldn't bet on another polished trailer at E3. Maybe some new gameplay?
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
All this negativity is saddening me
I still believe.
Negativity, positivity etc... all that crap doesn't make a difference imo. Plenty of games with solid hype and showings end up disappointing and vice versa...
The game will be critically judged in a few months and then release. However it turns out is ultimately uncertain and out of our control.
I wouldn't get too worked up about it.
We didn't get one for XIII until TGS a few months prior to release.
YankeeDonB
Member
Words of wisdom. Too easy to get caught up in the roller coaster reception of the marketing. But in 2 1/2 months the truth will out, one way or another.
Exactly.
I'll reserve my judgement until after I beat Final Fantasy XV. Until then, I remain open minded about it, and so far I like what I see.
Obliterator
Member
FFXV has had the strangest hype cycle for me. Sometimes they show it and it excites me and other times it looks like an absolute train wreck.
These screens are the same thing. Some looks solid / ok and some are just dreadful. Man I wonder how this thing is going to turn out
These screens are the same thing. Some looks solid / ok and some are just dreadful. Man I wonder how this thing is going to turn out
Can't blame them, Square have been releasing screenshots of the same Duscae area showing the same shitty LOD in the distance. What's baffling and confusing is they obviously have other areas with higher density of vegetation with even better LOD, so why do the shots and footage of that Duscae area always look like shit?
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
All this negativity is saddening me
I'm really not sure.... If it is, why don't they show that? We'll see I guess.
Masterspeed
Member
Wow people, can anything make you happy?
Why must a developer show bullshots all the time, I hate bullshots!
Yet, here's SE showing off true in-game quality screenshots and granted, they're not the best quality, but at least It's REAL
Why must a developer show bullshots all the time, I hate bullshots!
Yet, here's SE showing off true in-game quality screenshots and granted, they're not the best quality, but at least It's REAL
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Yeah looks good to me. Seems like its one of those much better in motion type of deals
KingJ2002
Member
S-E.... needs this game to come and go.
I'll be there day one but man... this game is clearly dated and it's not even out! The visuals ebb and flow between screenshots... one minute it looks amazing... the next it looks like a mess and a good rule of thumb is that the mess is what people will see most of the time.
I'm sure going forward they'll probably stick with Unreal Engine... what they were able to achieve with FFVII Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3... it's clear they're ready to move on from their luminous engine.
I'll be there day one but man... this game is clearly dated and it's not even out! The visuals ebb and flow between screenshots... one minute it looks amazing... the next it looks like a mess and a good rule of thumb is that the mess is what people will see most of the time.
I'm sure going forward they'll probably stick with Unreal Engine... what they were able to achieve with FFVII Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3... it's clear they're ready to move on from their luminous engine.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Is this the luminous engine? I thought this was Unreal.
After playing Duscae and Platinum.... nope.
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Yeah, honestly a lot of the posts read like they're actively looking to be upset.
Phreakuency
Banned
Considering, as one post correctly said, the demo had some of the worst image quality this generation, and these pics do nothing to change that, I'd say the comments are more than justified.
This is Luminous. Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy VII, and Dragon Quest XI are the ones on Unreal.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
This is cool.Some of them are nice and show a clear IQ improvement.
Flying Regalia March
Flying Regalia June
Edges are much sharper, added field blur helps too.
nelsonroyale
Member
They must be really struggling to fit their engine onto the hardware. I mean I think the Paris footage they showed a while back in 2014 had the basis to look even better than Horizon. Certainly it had the best grassland foliage and shadowing of any game out there, allbeit with super short draw distance. It is weird. If they don't get this fixed and they release a PC version which is well optimised, I can see this being a much bigger difference between PC and consoles versions than we are generally used to.
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