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[SDBurton]

But that would also be boring. It's not even about sexy or whatever, it's just characters that stand out. I don't want to see "normal" people in a fantasy game, I want to see characters that look or sound interesting.

Preach!

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Are you sure? In Japanese games I've seen that so often. Almost all their jRPGs have sexy boys, sexy dressed boys, sexy acting boys. Or Visual Novels, dating sim and so on. Japan is not US and US is not the world.

in some Japanese games you also rub the clothes off little girls
so
also

oh and

by the way

 

[blankempathy]

Gladiolus' outfit is no more stupid than Barret's.

Barret lived in a slum, wore a tattered shirt with the sleeves ripped off and still had metal bands around his stomach which I can assume offered some type of protection. His advent children version looks goofier though with the fish net shirt and padded vest.

 

[Fjordson]

That looked...really good. Trying to keep my expectations low, but I'm starting to believe.

 

[Astral]

But that would also be boring. It's not even about sexy or whatever, it's just characters that stand out. I don't want to see "normal" people in a fantasy game, I want to see characters that look or sound interesting.

I agree. Her outfit is at least colorful. That's why I detest the main cast's designs so much. They all just wear black. I'd like some variety.

 

[Village]

Barret lived in a slum, wore a tattered shirt with the sleeves ripped off and still had metal bands around his stomach which I can assume offered some type of protection. His advent children version looks goofier though with the fish net shirt and padded vest.

His advent child deign is better because they decided to design an actually unique original black character, instead of just mr.T .

Something they should be commended on, they saw their flaw and went
" Huh , that was lazy and might be racist, how about we make an orginal guy "

and then they did

 

[blankempathy]

Or The Rock.

Thats a vest and from the context of that picture the rock seems to be doing a performance.

 

[DirgeExtinction]

I like Cidney's design. It looks playful.

It's not as bad as Rikku's or Fran's.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Imma let you finish, but that no Cid. That a teenager. Could be a young Cidney, but no Cid, nah.

Final Fantasy:Unlimited. >.>

 

[Ashodin]

driving on the left side of the road is gonna fuck me up

 

[SougoXIII]

in some Japanese games you also rub the clothes off little girls
so

Sooooo because Japan have weird ass disturbing games, that somehow disregard the fact that they do have games that sexualises men? Have you NOT heard of the pretty boys complaints from virtually every single FF?

 

[blankempathy]

His advent child deign is better because they decided to design an actually unique original black character, instead of just mr.T .

Something they should be commended on, they saw their flaw and went
" Huh , that was lazy and might be racist, how about we make an orginal guy "

and then they did

Original? He looks like hes performing on stage after defeating bahamut.

 

[YunFang1130]

By any chance, will any of this (and if there's anything more) be shown in the upcoming Famitsu/Dengeki magazines?

 

[Village]

driving on the left side of the road is gonna fuck me up

I dunno if they are going to let you drive

Because driving gives you the freedom to run into stuff, like people

And while I'm ok with that I dunno if the FF peeps are.

 

[Philippo]

driving on the left side of the road is gonna fuck me up

You and me man, you and me.

I should write to Tabata to add an option to switch (although infeasible since a lot of cutscenes are in the car and mirroring them would be weird), dual driving is much more important than dual audio.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Will avoid the console versions and get it for PC.

Lack of AA and possibly not even 1080p is impossible to gloss over.

Poor english dubbing across the board; sticking to the Japanese audio.

Not a fan of the new Sid either...

Kingdom Hearts music is great as always.

Maybe you should actually wait until 2016, when the game is finished and doesn't have wireframing on buildings to judge the polished visual quality?

Jeez, it's no wonder developers opt for CG trailers, when people can't see when something is obviously not done.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Are you really trying to say there will be more to her outfit other than pandering?

There's nothing wrong with sexy in a vacuum, but when it's nearly all that's available there is a problem.

I feel there's a difference between one of these Vita games full of schoolgirls in sexy clothes with gropping mechanics and one game that presents both males and females on a sexy way.

Cindy is juts one female character and Luna and Stella and other female characters just seem fine.

 

[Village]

Original? He looks like hes performing on stage after defeating bahamut.

What does that mean?

 

[Alienous]

I'm sorry, that street battle is the hottest shit.

Holy fuck. That "shit will be going down" walk up -> a perfectly sunlit duel. Amazing.

 

[Tohsaka]

in some Japanese games you also rub the clothes off little girls
so
also

oh and

by the way

The cast of Senran Kagura are all high school age or older, they're not "little girls." You don't rub their clothes off, either; you must be thinking of another game.

 

[Ashodin]

I dunno if they are going to let you drive

Because driving gives you the freedom to run into stuff, like people

And while I'm ok with that I dunno if the FF peeps are.

They said in the demo you can drive, or the NPCs can.

 

[Alienous]

When, oh when, will they make the wheels of the car turn independently from the vehicle?

It's so jarring.

 

[Village]

They said in the demo you can drive, or the NPCs can.

Oh, Can I run over soldiers, and people.

because they need to design for that.

I'm the type of guy that likes taking short cuts.

 

[Kinsei]

The cast of Senran Kagura are all high school age or older, they're not "little girls." You don't rub their clothes off, either; you must be thinking of another game.

I think that's why the |"also" was in there. The rubbing game he is talking about is Monster Monpiece.

 

[Mr. RHC]

Final Fantasy:Unlimited. >.>

I had no idea that a televised Final Fantasy anime was a thing, lol.

Like you said the Cid from FFIV is very stylized. This game is very obviously going for a more realistic aesthetic, more so than other ff games, hence the "fantasy set in reality" tagline. So that's another argument that falls flat on his face.
Also yea with my logic every Cid without a beard is a male sexist fantasy, oh wait a minute.




But in that particular case the rest of the characters are also very stylized. And were made of pixels. And not set in "A fantasy based on reality."


That's really stupid that he originally wore a shirt underneath and then they decided to make him shirtless, that in itself is also a form of pandering. Which I don't agree with.

Wait, there's at least 3 bearded Cids in your selection?! I say that the bearded mechanic could be a sexist cliché as well, but nobody ever cares about sexism towards males. It's just called Vaan sucks, Raiden sucks etc.

But in that particular case the rest of the characters are also very stylized. And were made of pixels. And not set in "A fantasy based on reality."

I don't know. "A fantasy based on reality" is still pretty vague imo. I also think reality does not negate stylized characters, we'll see plenty of those.

 

[Village]

I think that's why the |"also" was in there. The rubbing game he is talking about is Monster Monpiece.

This game will live in infamy far beyond its years

 

[Caronte]

I dunno if they are going to let you drive

Because driving gives you the freedom to run into stuff, like people

And while I'm ok with that I dunno if the FF peeps are.

You can drive yourself or ask Ignis to do it.

 

[UrbanRats]

Maybe you should actually wait until 2016, when the game is finished and doesn't have wireframing on buildings to judge the polished visual quality?

Jeez, it's no wonder developers opt for CG trailers, when people can't see when something is obviously not done.

2016, when the game is finished

Lmao.

 

[Tohsaka]

I think that's why the |"also" was in there. The rubbing game he is talking about is Monster Monpiece.

Yeah I know about Monster Monpiece, I just thought it was odd that they posted images of a game that doesn't even feature the shit they're talking about.

 

[Astral Dog]

"Now in development"
For some reason that made me laugh.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

Like you said the Cid from FFIV is very stylized. This game is very obviously going for a more realistic aesthetic, more so than other ff games, hence the "fantasy set in reality" tagline. So that's another argument that falls flat on his face.

I think using the "fantasy based on reality"(not "set") might be reaching a bit. Given what we've seen, the "reality" inspired areas of this is still rather fantastical. And the fact that they were inspired by real life locations means little to nothing, as Square's been doing that type of thing since FFVII. I think when Nomura dropped the infamous tagline, it was meant to represent that the story will have inspiration by real life events of the past decade or so. He said he was inspired by real world events, political, war, religion, stuff like the war on terrorism and tension between nations. That and how the characters are meant to be, well, realistic in how they act, talk, and react to things, as well as there not being a clear right or wrong(like the Shakespearean quote). This would mean we will eventually find out Nifelheim aren't bad, or even we might come to understand why they want all the crystals(and it might even be something we sympathize with). Age old feuds might've been ignited through the most simple of misunderstandings. That's reality. I really DO think the whole "based on reality" tag was more story oriented than visual/setting.

 

[Ashodin]

Oh, Can I run over soldiers, and people.

because they need to design for that.

I'm the type of guy that likes taking short cuts.

you know the dodging thing? people should do it too

 

[blankempathy]

What does that mean?

Because he looks so much cleaner in his look just like gladiolus does. Like models or artists that perform shirtless except for a vest or jacket. Anyways I'm not saying barret had the best look but in the context of him being bare chested except for a torn up shirt it made sense.

 

[Crossing Eden]

I had no idea that a televised Final Fantasy anime was a thing, lol.




Wait, there's at least 3 bearded Cids in your selection?! I say that the bearded mechanic could be a sexist cliché as well, but nobody ever cares about sexism towards males. It's just called Vaan sucks, Raiden sucks etc.
I don't know. "A fantasy based on reality" is still pretty vague imo. I also think reality does not negate stylized characters, we'll see plenty of those.

What Cids did I post have beards? At most the one from FFVII has a very small amount of stubble, which was removed in the CG movie. Are you trying to make the argument that having a beard if you're a mechanic is inherently sexist? Really?

 

[Falk]

FFXV threads from this point on:

Night time (USA) - Talking about trailer (including fashion)
Daytime (USA) - Talking only about fashion

 

[NoctisVsStar]

FFXV threads from this point on:

Night time (USA) - Talking about trailer (including fashion)
Daytime (USA) - Talking only about fashion

i wanna talk about the actual game..but i really dont care about the fashion or that this girl is wearing a certain type of outfit.

 

[Caronte]

What Cids did I post have beards? At most the one from FFVII has a very small amount of stubble, which was removed in the CG movie. Are you trying to make the argument that having a beard if you're a mechanic is inherently sexist? Really?

He did have a beard (or whatever that is called in English).

 

[blankempathy]

He did have a beard (or whatever that is called in English).

Soul patch? And stubble.

 

[ChasingComets]

I'm very late to reply to this, but I feel like Cindy makes sense for a few reasons:

1. I don't think Sidney, Cidney, or Sidny are typical female names, especially not in North America.
2. Sydney is an actual name, though perhaps more associated with Australia and still not including "Cid" in it.
3. One might argue that the rest of localized Final Fantasy names also aren't typical North American names, BUT Cindy has a very stereotypical southeastern North America accent. For someone who grew up in the south to have that accent and be named "Cindy" or "Cindy Lou" would make perfect sense. Plus, "Cindy" still has all the letters of "Cid" in it, in the same order no less.

Stop making logical arguments, dang it! ^^;

But seriously, if we can have characters trotting around with the most obscure bunch of Latin names, we can very well have a character be called "Cidney".

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

As for naming, I think everyone including square enix is overthinking this like crazy. Why not just name her Cid? Since when does a name have to make 100% sense, you don't have to explain it to anyone. No one is gonna think BUT CID IS A MAN'S name. Actually I'm sure some will whine but this whole sidney/cindey/etc... thing is so silly. Name her Cid and that's that. If I'm square I just do that and I don't explain myself to anybody.

 

[Mr. RHC]

Are you trying to make the argument that having a beard if you're a mechanic is inherently sexist? Really?

Yes, I do because I have seen plenty of Cids in Final Fantasy with beards.

 

[Cloudy]

"Noctis is a weapon summoner and he has an ability to teleport to a new place by throwing one of his swords there. The player can only teleport to certain locations and depending on the circumstances, you will see a glowing icon where you can teleport."

http://squareportal.net/2014/09/22/...-five-interviews-and-tons-of-new-information/

I can accept that but it reeks of creating lore to work with lazy game design

 

[Lifejumper]

Whats the a move at 1:40? Parry, guard?

 

[KarmaCow]

I can accept that but it reeks of creating lore to work with lazy game design

I don't see how the weapons being summoned is the breaking point for you in a video game, much less a JRPG like FF.

 

[Falk]

i wanna talk about the actual game..but i really dont care about the fashion or that this girl is wearing a certain type of outfit.

Unfortunately a couple of people do and need to make their point with 50 posts of the same thing so you have to wait for them to go to sleep.

 

[Green Mamba]

I'm very late to reply to this, but I feel like Cindy makes sense for a few reasons:

1. I don't think Sidney, Cidney, or Sidny are typical female names, especially not in North America.
2. Sydney is an actual name, though perhaps more associated with Australia and still not including "Cid" in it.
3. One might argue that the rest of localized Final Fantasy names also aren't typical North American names, BUT Cindy has a very stereotypical southeastern North America accent. For someone who grew up in the south to have that accent and be named "Cindy" or "Cindy Lou" would make perfect sense. Plus, "Cindy" still has all the letters of "Cid" in it, in the same order no less.

No, this is Final Fantasy, so the name should be "Cid" something. Cidney has the name "Cid" in it, down to the pronunciation. Cindy doesn't sound like Cid at all--having the same letters in the word (with others in between them) isn't exactly impressive. Final Fantasy has very few true constants, this should be one of them. And if the localizers see fit to screw that up because they thought the name "Cidney" seemed too weird in a game full of characters named "Gladiolus" and "Prompto," then they're insane.

 

[ChasingComets]

i wanna talk about the actual game..but i really dont care about the fashion or that this girl is wearing a certain type of outfit.

We think alike, you and I. But as my friend puts it, so little else is known about the game that asides from random speculating, this is the only thing that people can discuss at length about.

 

[JNA]

Also probably a stupid question but is the game open world? That video of them driving in town was pretty damn cool to see. Hope I can actually do that in-game.

 

[Crossing Eden]

He did have a beard (or whatever that is called in English).

Oi, that's my mistake. Still not a bushy beard like the other Cids though.

Also probably a stupid question but is the game open world? That video of them driving in town was pretty damn cool to see. Hope I can actually do that in-game.

Apparently they're experimenting with how seamless everything will be.

Yes, I do because I have seen plenty of Cids in Final Fantasy with beards.

Where do you see a beard?

 

[ChasingComets]

Also probably a stupid question but is the game open world? That video of them driving in town was pretty damn cool to see. Hope I can actually do that in-game.

Yes. Tabata and Nomura have both discussed a few times about how they're trying to make the world be seamless (apart from a few instances) and similar to the old overworlds of final fantasy.