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First Review for The Last of Us

Broken aiming, glitching geometry, season pass scam made for very bad impressions. I'm sure some enjoyed it, but for all the hype/AAA blockbuster matinee nonsense, it really was an uninspired and compromised product.

Really?? In Uncharted 3? What glitching geometry? The aiming was just perfect for me so I don't really know what the beef was. There are a few criticisms I could level against Uncharted 3 but technical/gameplay issues they wouldn't be. That game was pitch perfect for me as far as just being a gloriously animated third-person shooter.
 
Broken aiming, glitching geometry, season pass scam made for very bad impressions. I'm sure some enjoyed it, but for all the hype/AAA blockbuster matinee nonsense, it really was an uninspired and compromised product.

Aiming was fixed, season pass has no bearing on the quality of the game itself and glitchy geometry played through the game twice and have no idea what you're talking about.
 
This is their final game for the PS3 and they probably put everything into it to make it that good as they move on to the PS4.
 
when where people not claiming a Naughty Dog game was best ever or this gens greatest achievement. If Uncharted 3 can get 9-10 reviews somehow then I expect same for this

hopefully the reviews are correct and this game is good unlike U3
 
Does that mean film got its The Last of Us 70 years ago?

People use the phrase "The Citizen Kane of/for ___" are stupid, but not because Citizen Kane should be equated to the 2nd coming. It is stupid because it is a stupid way of thinking. It makes you sound like a caveman trying to catch up to the modern century. However the people who try to defeat this by making Citizen Kane an unreachable zenith should feel bad because they don't get it either. They are attacking pretentiousness with their own pretensions, all of which is borne out of following the hype set decades ago.


I predict GAF will reach levels of hyperbole that rivals any game journo. That's what happened with Journey and The Walking Dead last year. At least this time the game has an actual chance of being good. So fortunately if this is the game that makes people lose their senses (won't be BioShock Infinite for most by the looks of it) at least they are not standing in the garbage pail before they rocket into space (and I doubt the hyperbole will get any worse, so we are just closing the gap with this one).
 
I predict GAF will reach levels of hyperbole that rivals any game journo. That's what happened with Journey and The Walking Dead last year. At least this time the game has an actual chance of being good. So fortunately if this is the game that makes people lose their senses (won't be BioShock Infinite for most by the looks of it) at least they are not standing in the garbage pail before they rocket into space (and I doubt the hyperbole will get any worse, so we are just closing the gap with this one).

If GAF has a huge over the top positive reaction I will wait for the one person who has to claim its the worst game he ever played just be different like we get for every hyped game
 
Just out of curiosity, how many of you have even actually seen Citizen Kane?

Ha ha!! I was just thinking that. I can say with certainty that I, myself, have not seen Citizen Kane. I'm a film fan and love good cinema but I just KNOW it will not live up to all the hype and there are better movies out there worth chasing down and watching.
 
Just out of curiosity, how many of you have even actually seen Citizen Kane?

I've seen it and looked into it's place in film history and the development of techniques.

I've taken bunches of film studies courses where you wind up watching all those movies people always mention in passing.









Super hyped for TLOU
 
Does that mean film got its The Last of Us 70 years ago?

People use the phrase "The Citizen Kane of/for ___" are stupid, but not because Citizen Kane should be equated to the 2nd coming. It is stupid because it is a stupid way of thinking. It makes you sound like a caveman trying to catch up to the modern century. However the people who try to defeat this by making Citizen Kane an unreachable zenith should feel bad because they don't get it either. They are attacking pretentiousness with their own pretensions, all of which is borne out of following the hype set decades ago.


I predict GAF will reach levels of hyperbole that rivals any game journo. That's what happened with Journey and The Walking Dead last year. At least this time the game has an actual chance of being good. So fortunately if this is the game that makes people lose their senses (won't be BioShock Infinite for most by the looks of it) at least they are not standing in the garbage pail before they rocket into space (and I doubt the hyperbole will get any worse, so we are just closing the gap with this one).

Agreed. All we should care about is determining whether or not a game is Oscar worthy.
 
Does that mean film got its The Last of Us 70 years ago?

People use the phrase "The Citizen Kane of/for ___" are stupid, but not because Citizen Kane should be equated to the 2nd coming. It is stupid because it is a stupid way of thinking. It makes you sound like a caveman trying to catch up to the modern century. However the people who try to defeat this by making Citizen Kane an unreachable zenith should feel bad because they don't get it either. They are attacking pretentiousness with their own pretensions, all of which is borne out of following the hype set decades ago.


I predict GAF will reach levels of hyperbole that rivals any game journo. That's what happened with Journey and The Walking Dead last year. At least this time the game has an actual chance of being good. So fortunately if this is the game that makes people lose their senses (won't be BioShock Infinite for most by the looks of it) at least they are not standing in the garbage pail before they rocket into space (and I doubt the hyperbole will get any worse, so we are just closing the gap with this one).

I always thought people talked about the "citizen kane of games" because citizen kane set a lot of the standards for film production that are still in place today?? Correct me if I'm wrong. From that perspective, ocarina of time is probably that, despite it not being all that great or aging very well. (just like citizen kane! i've been less bored at the DMV.)

The Last of Us is a very polished game but I don't think it's gonna set any standards that weren't there before, I don't think every game released ten or twenty years from now will have the last of us to thank for all the techniques used to develop it. it'll be a really well executed game that does things everyone else has done, many of them a little better.
 
I always thought people talked about the "citizen kane of games" because citizen kane set a lot of the standards for film production that are still in place today?? Correct me if I'm wrong. From that perspective, ocarina of time is probably that, despite it not being all that great or aging very well. (just like citizen kane! i've been less bored at the DMV.)

The Last of Us is a very polished game but I don't think it's gonna set any standards that weren't there before, I don't think every game released ten or twenty years from now will have the last of us to thank for all the techniques used to develop it. it'll be a really well executed game that does things everyone else has done, many of them a little better.
Listen to this man/woman
 
The 'Citizen Kane of' is about production standards, not emotive quality or something. Welles came from theater, and his choice of deep focus and theatrical blocking was fairly unusual. They used mics in the ceilings so you can see the ceilings, and use much lower angled shots, which presented Kane as huge on screen. The film was a production revolution, and a huge technical accomplishment.

It's nothing to do with it story.

Zelda OoT is a big deal, and it did a lot about how to use lock on with relative movement, which influenced many games, but it didn't change the industry in the sense Kane did. GTA3 is a better candidate.
 
The Last of Us will be the the Road (with Zombies) of videogames.

Zelda OoT is a big deal, and it did a lot about how to use lock on with relative movement, which influenced many games, but it didn't change the industry in the sense Kane did. GTA3 is a better candidate.

Damn that's a great point. Anyone know what the first game was to actually go for full polygonal 3D? That's probably the best comparison. I'm not talking that Wolfenstein stuff. I know the first Starfox used a lot of polygonal effects...

edit: basically what game triggered the switch from sprite based graphics to polygonal graphics?
 
Citizen Kane is much like The Beatles-you check it out now and are like "this is what the fuss was all about?"

What did you 'check out' in regards of the Beatles? Listened to a best-of album or actually sat down and gone through all their albums? Because I still haven't heard much that's better than what they did from around '65 onward.

Ha ha!! I was just thinking that. I can say with certainty that I, myself, have not seen Citizen Kane. I'm a film fan and love good cinema but I just KNOW it will not live up to all the hype and there are better movies out there worth chasing down and watching.

What a strange thing to say. Sorry but's a must see for everyone who calls himself a film fan. Doesn't matter if you think it holds up in the end.

AWWWWW YEAH! This is looking like the game of the gen bitches! Bow down!

But what about Tomb Raider?
 
What a coincidence. I've just got a call from shop that they are upping the price for spec. ed. a little.
Everything is increasing as does my hype. Can't freakin wait.
 
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Funny quote, but people would do well to read a little on Citizen Kane before "explaining" (the meaningless) comparison. Jesus.
 
Well, is it still an entirely on-rails linear story set in small-ish environments riddled with set pieces and QTEs, with the same "okay" combat from Uncharted?

If so I'm sure it's a good game, but at least in my opinion it ain't contending for no "best of generation" or "Citizen Kane gaming moment". That's lofty lofty shit there...

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I wish reviewers would stop comparing films to movies, it just encourages the linear bullshit.

The hyperbole that comes out of game journalists' mouths (or keyboards) just to force the game look relevant is quite pathetic. The game probably is great, but you can write a balanced review highlighting that without resorting to ridiculous statements like the one in the OP.

These posts nail exactly what I'm talking about.
 
The hyperbole that comes out of game journalists' mouths (or keyboards) just to force the game look relevant is quite pathetic. The game probably is great, but you can write a balanced review highlighting that without resorting to ridiculous statements like the one in the OP.
 
I've never seen Citizen Kane.

Is it on Netflix Instant?

Not ATM. I actually looked it up because it would be a great education in several different ways, including being able to laugh at hyperbolic, garbage, and obviously paid-for game "reviews".

If you're in college, it will certainly be covered in film class. I wouldn't go out of my way to pay money to see it, though. You will probably spend much of the time confused about what it is that makes the movie so great, because the techniques Orson Welles created in that movie are still in use today. It's worth researching, though. See above poster's comment on the movie's innovative cinematography. Welles himself admitted that he didn't intentionally set out to change how movies are made, and really stumbled into it out of ignorance. Which really, is a key ingredient in breaking ground in an established medium.
 
This is their final game for the PS3 and they probably put everything into it to make it that good as they move on to the PS4.

Which is strange considering they said that they were a one console per franchise developer now. There are already rumors of a LoU2 due to a bigger story arc already having been written.

Just out of curiosity, how many of you have even actually seen Citizen Kane?

Watched it in 1999, then again five years ago. Both times it was almost unbearable to watch. I don't watch movies just for their technical achievements or new way to narrate. The movie was one of the dullest I've ever seen from an entertainment standpoint, and I can watch some very slow movies without much of a problem.

If all the reivew is really talking about is production values, polish, technical achievements or a new approach to something we've already seen countless times, then it might be a compliment to the game. Otherwise, prepare to fall asleep.
 
Nine pages for a review from Empire.com ... !!!

As a person born and raised in Chicago, IL, all I can think about when I see the word Empire is the damn carpet company...

Not ATM. I actually looked it up because it would be a great education in several different ways, including being able to laugh at hyperbolic, garbage, and obviously paid-for game "reviews".

If you're in college, it will certainly be covered in film class. I wouldn't go out of my way to pay money to see it, though. You will probably spend much of the time confused about what it is that makes the movie so great, because the techniques Orson Welles created in that movie are still in use today. It's worth researching, though. See above poster's comment on the movie's innovative cinematography. Welles himself admitted that he didn't intentionally set out to change how movies are made, and really stumbled into it out of ignorance. Which really, is a key ingredient in breaking ground in an established medium.

Alrighty then!
 
The 'Citizen Kane of' is about production standards, not emotive quality or something. Welles came from theater, and his choice of deep focus and theatrical blocking was fairly unusual. They used mics in the ceilings so you can see the ceilings, and use much lower angled shots, which presented Kane as huge on screen. The film was a production revolution, and a huge technical accomplishment.

It's nothing to do with it story.

Zelda OoT is a big deal, and it did a lot about how to use lock on with relative movement, which influenced many games, but it didn't change the industry in the sense Kane did. GTA3 is a better candidate.

everything you just described has to do with the story. this is how a story is told in film.
 
Ha ha!! I was just thinking that. I can say with certainty that I, myself, have not seen Citizen Kane. I'm a film fan and love good cinema but I just KNOW it will not live up to all the hype and there are better movies out there worth chasing down and watching.

I've seen it twice. In my opinion, it is "decent". It doesn't really hold up in modern times in some ways even when other movies from the era do. BUT with that said, I can recognize why it was so groundbreaking for the time, and it definitely deserves it's place in history without a doubt (though maybe not some of the hyperbole). It's just that it's not something I can really strongly recommend to someone who is actually looking to heavily enjoy and by highly entertained by the film. Doesn't mean it wasn't, in retrospect, groundbreaking and far ahead of its time.

Have you actually played through an Uncharted?

"Played" yes. "Played through" no. When I saw small-ish environments I generally mean small in terms of the area you can actually get to and/or interact with (opposite of something like Assassin's Creed). You think my take on it is false? I know some disagree, but a couple friends whose opinions I very much trust DID play through all three and my take on it is mostly drawn from their feedback.

It doesn't mean they didn't like the games. They liked them a lot. I'm sure I'd like them too. But the above criticisms make "best of generation" type praise suspect in my opinion. That's all. Not trying to start a fight.

Now, anybody have an answer to my original question? Is it expected to play almost just like the Uncharted games?
 
Just out of curiosity, how many of you have even actually seen Citizen Kane?

Watched it twice, and the first time I saw it, my jaw hit the floor. From the audacious editing, to the revolutionary camera angles, deep focus and use of lighting...Orson simply invented the lexicon of present day cinema. The whole time I was like : "I remember such and such movie director doing a similar thing!". And to think Welles was 25 years old when he conceived and realized his masterpiece! I feel worthless!
 
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