UnlovedJew
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Sometimes I think I'm the only one who likes Brave at all. Then again, I thought Toy Story 3 was only okay. MAYBE IM INSANE.
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GuitarAtomik
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I thought Brave was alright but if I had known nothing about it and you told me it was a Dreamworks movie, I would totally have believed you.
Never. Pixar has never done anything based on an existing property (except sequels to their own movies). Don't see that starting now.
I liked Brave, but it definitely doesn't measure up to any of their best. Coming off of Cars 2 and before this, it seems like the golden age is over. 
I would argue Pixar executed on their concepts better, though.
That said, they are certainly on the decline now. One of the biggest entertainment disappointments of my adult life. There was a time when I seriously considered pursuing animation almost entirely because of their studio. Oh well. If Brad Bird ever gets back to animation, I'm back in a heartbeat though.
I would argue Pixar executed on their concepts better, though.
That said, they are certainly on the decline now. One of the biggest entertainment disappointments of my adult life. There was a time when I seriously considered pursuing animation almost entirely because of their studio. Oh well. If Brad Bird ever gets back to animation, I'm back in a heartbeat though.
Both those are still "Here's a hero, watch him get smacked down, struggle to overcome problems, rediscover himself, and then beat the villain" type movies.
Not bad movies at all, just not compelling.
What? That's not what HTTYD was about at all.
BenjaminBirdie
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How is it a streak? Brave was fantastic.
Disney owns SW now. Not to mention you made the a good point - Pixar has been doing more and more sequels. When the sequel well runs dry they'll turn to other properties.
outunderthestars
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You may be the only one. I found it incredibly boring, with no likable characters or heart.
Nicktendo86
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On a slightly unrelated note, I watched Wall-E for the first time on the weekend. Perhaps the best film I have watched in years and I am not ashamed to say, as a 27 year old man, it made me cry.
I agree with this.
You can't get any more generic than the whole "fulfill your destiny, become the person you were meant to be" story line. Maybe its my age, maybe I am just a grumpy old bastard, but I have had my fill of this particular theme in movies. Its played out and been worn to death. You need some other hooks in the movie to make it interesting, and I found none of that in Brave. I was damn near bored to tears when I saw it in the theaters.
Pixar have a lot to live up to. I rewatched Rattatouille not long ago and I found it to be fantastic! I liked all the Pixar films from Toy Story through Up!
I liked Monsters, Inc. quite a bit and watched it at least 5 times. I was jazzed up about the prequel Monsters U - but the trailers turned me off to it, to be honest. Doesn't look all that good. Looks skewed at young kids and quick laughs with little of the heart/depth that MI had. Reviews are stating what I thought from watching the trailre. Will rent someday.
Also - I didn't see Brave or Cars 2 at the theater for the same reason. Actually, come to think of it , I never watched Brave. I liked Cars. I expected to hate Cars 2 but actually it had some moments - it was weak but not horrible.
the only other animated CG films I've liked a lot were the two Kung Fu Panda films which were AWESOME to me; and to a lesser degree I enjoyed HTTYD , found it was surprisingly good. All the rest are pretty mediocre to me.
I wish The Incredibles would get a trilogy just like Toy Story did.
I liked Monsters, Inc. quite a bit and watched it at least 5 times. I was jazzed up about the prequel Monsters U - but the trailers turned me off to it, to be honest. Doesn't look all that good. Looks skewed at young kids and quick laughs with little of the heart/depth that MI had. Reviews are stating what I thought from watching the trailre. Will rent someday.
Also - I didn't see Brave or Cars 2 at the theater for the same reason. Actually, come to think of it , I never watched Brave. I liked Cars. I expected to hate Cars 2 but actually it had some moments - it was weak but not horrible.
the only other animated CG films I've liked a lot were the two Kung Fu Panda films which were AWESOME to me; and to a lesser degree I enjoyed HTTYD , found it was surprisingly good. All the rest are pretty mediocre to me.
I wish The Incredibles would get a trilogy just like Toy Story did.
Black Door
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Fapping to Merida does not make that movie fantastic.
Toy Story trilogy is the only Pixar that ranks really high for me.
Finding Nemo and The Incredibles are fun flicks but not these unparalleled works of genius that they (especially the latter) are held up as. Wall-E, Up, and Brave have moments of greatness that fall to the wayside for long stretches of typical kids adventure story. Ratatouille really annoyed me but I'm in the way minority on that one.
Never seen either Cars movie (and don't want to), don't remember Monsters Inc. or A Bug's Life well enough to judge.
Also: what's with all the Dreamworks hate? Is it just residual shit talking from people who stopped paying attention a long time ago? They've been making some pretty good movies the last few years.
Also also: Ghibli is on a much worse decline. They've only had one good movie in the past decade.
Finding Nemo and The Incredibles are fun flicks but not these unparalleled works of genius that they (especially the latter) are held up as. Wall-E, Up, and Brave have moments of greatness that fall to the wayside for long stretches of typical kids adventure story. Ratatouille really annoyed me but I'm in the way minority on that one.
Never seen either Cars movie (and don't want to), don't remember Monsters Inc. or A Bug's Life well enough to judge.
Also: what's with all the Dreamworks hate? Is it just residual shit talking from people who stopped paying attention a long time ago? They've been making some pretty good movies the last few years.
Also also: Ghibli is on a much worse decline. They've only had one good movie in the past decade.
Benjamin_MFF
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I really want to see this happen. Any way we can encourage them do to this?
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/monsters_university/
Early days yet but the movie is sitting at a fairly healthy 83 percent. Think too many of us were writing it off prematurely based on the reviews in the OP.
Early days yet but the movie is sitting at a fairly healthy 83 percent. Think too many of us were writing it off prematurely based on the reviews in the OP.
yankeehater
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Good to see it reviewing so well. Someone posted a bunch of positive reviews in this thread, to bad the op wasnt updated with some of the positive reviews that have come out.
Ah, some relief. Still want to see it and all, and I still think Pixar does well for me, despite Brave and Cars 2.
polyh3dron
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I like to think that the real Pixar died in that Toy Story 3 incinerator.
I don't know what the fuck this shit calling itself Pixar is.
I don't know what the fuck this shit calling itself Pixar is.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
The studio that made Brave?
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/monsters_university/
Almost a 100 reviews are in and the score should be pretty stable now.
Sitting at a decent 77% but with a rather disappointing average of 6.7.
Surprised there haven't been more impressions on the film on GAF, with the film being out in quite a few places already.
On a side note, this years animated crop is really not faring well with critics. Neither The Croods, Epic or currently this film has managed to even penetrate the 80% mark.
Almost a 100 reviews are in and the score should be pretty stable now.
Sitting at a decent 77% but with a rather disappointing average of 6.7.
Surprised there haven't been more impressions on the film on GAF, with the film being out in quite a few places already.
On a side note, this years animated crop is really not faring well with critics. Neither The Croods, Epic or currently this film has managed to even penetrate the 80% mark.
Expendable.
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Thought this was very mediocre, save for the engaging last act. It's a step up from their last two films (what isn't?), but the first two acts rely on unfunny gags and a generally rote story. It's just another case where a prequel isn't necessary. I'd give it a C+.
Maninthemirror
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So like up?
Expendable.
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Actually, the opposite of Up. The first act of Up is fantastic and the rest tapers off a bit. And Up is much better in general.
That's incredibly depressing.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I don't know I thought it had a pretty uplifting ending.
Soulscribe
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You and me both. Brave > Toy Story 3. Come at me.
kunonabi
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pretty much how i felt about the first one.
Auron_Kale
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Saw this last night (8pm showing) with friends and I enjoyed it. It did call back to the first movie and was rather safe for the most part, but still it was good sequel. Probably what I enjoyed about it was definitely how they captured that 'college experience' as well as the friendship between Sully and Mike.
The Blue Umbrella, which is the short, was definitely better though.
The Blue Umbrella, which is the short, was definitely better though.
Did they ever acknowledge how
Edit: Oh, nevermind guess they did in a separate interview.
Mike said he and Sully knew each other since the fourth grade.
Edit: Oh, nevermind guess they did in a separate interview.
Banjotanooki
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So all I got outta that interview was that the line said the first movie is being treated as sarcasm and nothing else?
Laziness on their part IMO.
Next up is an original film, A Good Dinosaur. Finding Dory is the only sequel announced after this among about 4 original concepts.
Not that I am excusing them, they have already made too many pre/sequels.
Yeah, I guess it was just an exaggeration, but I can take that.
Finding Dory is 2015. They actually have a couple of original films in between.
BenjaminBirdie
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lol whoops
ntm pixar has already proven they can make a sequel a great movie.
they just, y'know, haven't always done it
DrForester
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I liked the film. I thought it was funny, and avoided some of the common tropes in these types of movies. The ending took me by surprise. Also incredibly impressive from a tech point of view. "No, you can't be anything you want to be" is not a theme I expected from Pixar.
The Umbrella short was a piece of shit outside the visual quality of it.
You expect them to win the big event and graduate with honors, but nope. They both get expelled. Dean talks to them both after and you expect her to let them back in, but nope, still expelled. All their success at Monsters Inc. resulted in them working their way up from the bottom.
The Umbrella short was a piece of shit outside the visual quality of it.
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