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[JimmyRustler]

Wait, so that OHP is without the bar, and is really 200?! (Because that is a pretty big press for reps at that body weight.)

Yeah, I'm basically you. 6'5", 197/198. Trying to gain weight. I think I have the drift finally going in the right direction. About 2 lbs a month.

Man, I hear you on the squat. It took me years (and a coach) for me to even get a half way decent low bar back squat. I have it figured out now, but it takes absolute focus each rep when it gets heavy.

I like front squats a lot. It does feel more natural to have a more upright back. (I did hurt my back on them when I was knee deep in a deep cut). Been spooked of them ever since.

Anyway, thanks for sharing. Just wanted to put your experience in context. Different things happen at different weights and strength levels.

Oh, the OHP was a typo. It's 115 lbp x 5.

Lucky you with the weight gain. Ever since during Covid I did some wild dieting experiments that severely damaged my relation to food and left me with not liking the feeling of food in body most of the time. Best I can do is a small meal at lunch, a protein bar + banana at 3 pm and a big meal in the evening (after which I avoid leaving my house). Needless to say this makes impossible to gain weight. Capped out at 200 lbp before my "cut", and even this one was only because I was shuffling chips and ice cream after my dinner. Bot that I cut those I'm probably down to 190 again... But anyway, as long a my strength keeps somewhat increasing it's fine. Also I find it quite easy to eat extremely healthy, which is probably the reason why I don't look my age.

Squats are horror in general for tall people - biomechanics. We have such a longer way to go. I've got used to seeing smaller people easily repping twice my weight....

 

[Raven117]

Oh, the OHP was a typo. It's 115 lbp x 5.

Lucky you with the weight gain. Ever since during Covid I did some wild dieting experiments that severely damaged my relation to food and left me with not liking the feeling of food in body most of the time. Best I can do is a small meal at lunch, a protein bar + banana at 3 pm and a big meal in the evening (after which I avoid leaving my house). Needless to say this makes impossible to gain weight. Capped out at 200 lbp before my "cut", and even this one was only because I was shuffling chips and ice cream after my dinner. Bot that I cut those I'm probably down to 190 again... But anyway, as long a my strength keeps somewhat increasing it's fine. Also I find it quite easy to eat extremely healthy, which is probably the reason why I don't look my age.

Squats are horror in general for tall people - biomechanics. We have such a longer way to go. I've got used to seeing smaller people easily repping twice my weight....

Oh gotcha. LOL. Was about to say, Anything getting close to 200 for reps on an OHP is pretty damn impressive. (And please include the bar weight (45lbs) in your totals! There isn't a gym goer on the planet that doesn't do that)

Man, I'm sorry to hear that about your relationship with food. I dealt a little bit with it as well. One time, I cut to 164 (yeah, I got my abs, but woof). Then from November 2022 to about August of 24, I went up to 240 on a bulk. I don't regret it, but damn, it effed with my blood work (way too high cholesterol). I cut then back down to about 194, and building back up (was stronger, for sure though). All this to say, I freak out a bit on food. But I think Im in a much better place now than i have been in years. It took years of work. Hopefully you will get in a better place as well.

Yeah man. Gawd, squats are just really terrible for most tall people's leverages. I'm still improving slowly. So I'll take it.

That said, deadlifts tend to work out pretty well! They seem to work out pretty well for you too!

 

[T8SC]

I don't post here much but I hit the gym or exercise daily and part of today's effort is below.

My Garmin says I need 72hrs recovery I'll have to make do with 15hrs max.

 

[Baemono]

Welp got sick, nausea and stuff, lost appetite, and now -6lbs down in 4 days, it's a bit too much, but I really can't swalow anything. Still try to have a protein intake to keep the muscles though, waist going way down (32 inches this morning)

I'll see if I can hit the gym again next week

 

[Aces High]

Welp got sick, nausea and stuff, lost appetite, and now -6lbs down in 4 days, it's a bit too much, but I really can't swalow anything. Still try to have a protein intake to keep the muscles though, waist going way down (32 inches this morning)

I'll see if I can hit the gym again next week

You don't need a lot of protein if you don't train because there's no muscle protein breakdown happening.

Eat lots of fresh fruits and some veggies instead.

 

[Raven117]

Welp got sick, nausea and stuff, lost appetite, and now -6lbs down in 4 days, it's a bit too much, but I really can't swalow anything. Still try to have a protein intake to keep the muscles though, waist going way down (32 inches this morning)

I'll see if I can hit the gym again next week

My bet is that you will bounce back pretty quick. It's not like your body immediately starts breaking down muscle the absolute second you are in a caloric deficit.

 

[Baemono]

My bet is that you will bounce back pretty quick. It's not like your body immediately starts breaking down muscle the absolute second you are in a caloric deficit.

I'll see how things are going. First time I did a big cut, I went down 60lbs, and lost a lot of muscle. Put back on 25lbs of mostly (I believe) muscle in 1.5 year, now it's time to cut again the 20lbs excess

 

[Raven117]

I'll see how things are going. First time I did a big cut, I went down 60lbs, and lost a lot of muscle. Put back on 25lbs of mostly (I believe) muscle in 1.5 year, now it's time to cut again the 20lbs excess

A sustained cut is going to be different than jut getting sick for a few days.

I would suggest getting DEXA scans to try and get a few data points regarding muscle and fat gain or loss. I found the information to really helpful.

Maybe do one now, then one at the end of your cut.

 

[Baemono]

A sustained cut is going to be different than jut getting sick for a few days

It started as being sick, motivated me to go on full cut mode (rather than the half-assed cut-but-also-muscle-gain I was doing in the last 6 months). Waist down to below 32 inches now, the lowest I ever recorded was 28, I don't aim to go this low this time, just to be under 200 lbs

 

[Raven117]

It started as being sick, motivated me to go on full cut mode (rather than the half-assed cut-but-also-muscle-gain I was doing in the last 6 months). Waist down to below 32 inches now, the lowest I ever recorded was 28, I don't aim to go this low this time, just to be under 200 lbs

Oh gotcha! Yeah, I've found the if one is going to cut… don't eff around and cut. If one wants to bulk, don't mess around and bulk (not balls crazy, but definitely a click over maintenance).

Good luck!

 

[Baemono]

I'm still going strong with my cut, after the initial water loss of course it becomes harder to trim the fat down, but I see impressive progress. I try to go to the pool everyday to do some cardio, and while I'm at an all time peak body-wise (huge arms and back and slim waist with defined abs), I still see myself as a gross blob, terrible

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

I posted near the start of the year and since then made some good gains, fitness improved, body conditioned to training, wasn't feeling like I'd been hit by a car the next day etc.

Then I went to Italy and then USA and ate crap over a 4/5 week period with no gym sessions.

I've put weight on and one day back at gym has destroyed me. I feel like I'm starting from scratch again.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Ok, so I'm done with my cut now… but since I basically got used to it by now I'm just gonna keep going with the clean diet for now - and the low drinking of course.

Speaking of the drinking… My progress is nothing short of insane. I went from almost dying of thirst to now drinking less than a litre of water on no training days and am now on my way to almost a litre only even on training days. I don't really understand how this is possible but it is what it is. I've read somewhere that the urine starts to get mad yellow when you are dehydrated but I notice nothing of that sort. The water intake from the fruits and veggies seems to be sufficient for me. It's all a bit puzzling.

Also that I don't experience any negative effects. My lifts are still ok and every now and then I manage to squeeze out a rep or two more than before - just like I did with the old diet.

Meanwhile my waist keeps shrinking. Just bought a new pair of jeans with size 31x36 and they are still too big. I feel like I could easily go to 29x36, which are female sizes… Damn…

My snoring has basically vanished now. Noticed one snore for the whole of July in my app and that probably because I was a bit sick that day.

Also even though I don't eat that much less than before honestly, I shit MUCH less in general (yes, I track that too… don't ask…).

So yeah, all pros, no cons. No pictures because I'm horrible at taking them and can never get the angle right but I feel like I look a bit more shredded now. Never measured my weight so I have no idea if I've lost any. lol

 

[Baemono]

Never measured my weight so I have no idea if I've lost any.

 

[JimmyRustler]

I used to weight myself for a year or so with changing diet but always just went back and forth between 90-92 kg, so I just stopped doing it. Like I said, I have issues with weight gain.
If I would have to guess I'd say I'm at around 90 kg again.

 

[Baemono]

I used to weight myself for a year or so with changing diet but always just went back and forth between 90-92 kg, so I just stopped doing it. Like I said, I have issues with weight gain.
If I would have to guess I'd say I'm at around 90 kg again.

It so far from my daily routine, I can't grasp it, I weight several times daily nowadays (which isn't good I've been told, but helps me a lot to track my weight loss).

I'm at 14lbs lost now, but the more I cut the furthest my goal seems to be. I wanted to be 196 to be lean, now I believe I should be 185 to be really lean (currently at 207lbs)

 

[JimmyRustler]

It so far from my daily routine, I can't grasp it, I weight several times daily nowadays (which isn't good I've been told, but helps me a lot to track my weight loss).

I'm at 14lbs lost now, but the more I cut the furthest my goal seems to be. I wanted to be 196 to be lean, now I believe I should be 185 to be really lean (currently at 207lbs)

I've had bad experience with actual severe weight loss. Loosing weight is no real issue for me (I once went down to 160 lbs once at 6'4). The problem is to loose it properly. Meaning, mostly fat and keep the muscles on. I usually loose way to much muscle, which is why it's not worth it for me. One would think that when loosing weight but training regularly your body will take the fat and keep the muscle... but for me it was somehow the other way around.

This is by the way the main reason why I'm trying this fluid fast now. Feels to me like my body is just not processing the nutrient properly.

 

[Raven117]

I posted near the start of the year and since then made some good gains, fitness improved, body conditioned to training, wasn't feeling like I'd been hit by a car the next day etc.

Then I went to Italy and then USA and ate crap over a 4/5 week period with no gym sessions.

I've put weight on and one day back at gym has destroyed me. I feel like I'm starting from scratch again.

You detrained a bit, but you are going to make JUMPS getting back. Not to worry.

Ok, so I'm done with my cut now… but since I basically got used to it by now I'm just gonna keep going with the clean diet for now - and the low drinking of course.

Speaking of the drinking… My progress is nothing short of insane. I went from almost dying of thirst to now drinking less than a litre of water on no training days and am now on my way to almost a litre only even on training days. I don't really understand how this is possible but it is what it is. I've read somewhere that the urine starts to get mad yellow when you are dehydrated but I notice nothing of that sort. The water intake from the fruits and veggies seems to be sufficient for me. It's all a bit puzzling.

Also that I don't experience any negative effects. My lifts are still ok and every now and then I manage to squeeze out a rep or two more than before - just like I did with the old diet.

Meanwhile my waist keeps shrinking. Just bought a new pair of jeans with size 31x36 and they are still too big. I feel like I could easily go to 29x36, which are female sizes… Damn…

My snoring has basically vanished now. Noticed one snore for the whole of July in my app and that probably because I was a bit sick that day.

Also even though I don't eat that much less than before honestly, I shit MUCH less in general (yes, I track that too… don't ask…).

So yeah, all pros, no cons. No pictures because I'm horrible at taking them and can never get the angle right but I feel like I look a bit more shredded now. Never measured my weight so I have no idea if I've lost any. lol

What an interesting experiment.

 

[Baemono]

Welp 16lbs lost in 3 weeks, I have almost my beach body (aka being at 15% BF), depending on the light, arms and legs still big (18.5 inches for arms, 27 inches for the legs) while the waist is down to 30.7 inches, still aiming to go below 198lbs (currently at 204) and then we'll see.

 

[JimmyRustler]

What an interesting experiment.

And still on-going. I'm actually very curious about the long term effects. Short term is pretty funny so far. Like, it's the first time in my life that I at time get up and after 7 hours sleep don't have to take a leak.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Boys, I think I'm about to make a mistake again...
Since my experiment with fluid intake went and is still going so well I'm about to start experimenting with my sleep again.

See, a couple of years back I got this strange idea that I can do with less sleep. Took me a couple months but eventually I lowered my regular sleep to around 4 hours per night (I would literally watch a movie and still be at work 7am). However, back then my training and nutrition were pretty shitty so I had to abandon the idea after a few months. It was quite rough getting my sleep back on track but I did eventually went back to 7 hours per night. Even though I recovered well, the nagging feeling that it wasn't my sleep schedule that screw it up but my workout and my nutrition never left my mind.

Now last week I had to cut my sleep for an hour due to work (had to be there earlier) and I was surprsied that even though slept only 6 hours I felt great. So me being me, I decided to just set the alarm clock back an hour by default and go to sleep later during the week (it's now 12pm sleep, 6 am getting up, every day even weekends). Not only do I not feel bad, I actually feel even a bit better than before the last couple of days.

So... should I lower it even further again? What to do, what to do.

If you're wondering why I'm doing this. Well, do the math. 1 hours less sleep adds 15 days of waking time to your year (considering most sleep 8 hours a day it's more like an extra month even). Minus 2 hours is even crazier when you think about it. The most insane thing I remember from when I did this back in the day is that my days started to feel just so much longer. Know the feeling where life just runs by? Well, with 4-5 hours of sleep it sure didn't for me.

So tempting... I'd had so much more time to read and game. Hmm...

 

[Baemono]

Boys, I think I'm about to make a mistake again...
Since my experiment with fluid intake went and is still going so well I'm about to start experimenting with my sleep again.

See, a couple of years back I got this strange idea that I can do with less sleep. Took me a couple months but eventually I lowered my regular sleep to around 4 hours per night (I would literally watch a movie and still be at work 7am). However, back then my training and nutrition were pretty shitty so I had to abandon the idea after a few months. It was quite rough getting my sleep back on track but I did eventually went back to 7 hours per night. Even though I recovered well, the nagging feeling that it wasn't my sleep schedule that screw it up but my workout and my nutrition never left my mind.

Now last week I had to cut my sleep for an hour due to work (had to be there earlier) and I was surprsied that even though slept only 6 hours I felt great. So me being me, I decided to just set the alarm clock back an hour by default and go to sleep later during the week (it's now 12pm sleep, 6 am getting up, every day even weekends). Not only do I not feel bad, I actually feel even a bit better than before the last couple of days.

So... should I lower it even further again? What to do, what to do.

If you're wondering why I'm doing this. Well, do the math. 1 hours less sleep adds 15 days of waking time to your year (considering most sleep 8 hours a day it's more like an extra month even). Minus 2 hours is even crazier when you think about it. The most insane thing I remember from when I did this back in the day is that my days started to feel just so much longer. Know the feeling where life just runs by? Well, with 4-5 hours of sleep it sure didn't for me.

So tempting... I'd had so much more time to read and game. Hmm...

I really don't understand how (or more "why") you decide to go without basic body needs (water first, now sleeping) and it is helpful on the long term

 

[JimmyRustler]

I really don't understand how (or more "why") you decide to go without basic body needs (water first, now sleeping) and it is helpful on the long term

The water thing is not something mindboggling new. People have been doing water fasts forever.
The sleeping thing is very simple... I want to get more out of my life. Think about it... If you cut 2 hours of your sleep, that makes 365x2 = 730/24 = 30 days
Meaning, I get one month worth of waking hours out of my life.

Now, is this good or healthy? Debatable. We know it's super unhealthy if your sleep is cut involuntarily. Science is not as clear if you do it because you want to. Like I said, I tried it once before and failed but I didn't die. There were periods during that time where I would train twice a day. Once before work and again after work.

Anyway, I just wanted to share. This is certainly not something I would recommend anyone to do or to try. But if you don't try, you will never know.

 

[Baemono]

30lbs down, waist went down to 30 inches while my legs are at 25 inches and arms still 18 inches, feeling pretty good (even if my family is screaming "you're too skinny now!" - which is hardly the case at 192lbs). It's like I'm preparing for a competition (even if I am not), but I don't think I'll go up and down anymore after the end of my current cut

 

[Raven117]

The water thing is not something mindboggling new. People have been doing water fasts forever.
The sleeping thing is very simple... I want to get more out of my life. Think about it... If you cut 2 hours of your sleep, that makes 365x2 = 730/24 = 30 days
Meaning, I get one month worth of waking hours out of my life.

Now, is this good or healthy? Debatable. We know it's super unhealthy if your sleep is cut involuntarily. Science is not as clear if you do it because you want to. Like I said, I tried it once before and failed but I didn't die. There were periods during that time where I would train twice a day. Once before work and again after work.

Anyway, I just wanted to share. This is certainly not something I would recommend anyone to do or to try. But if you don't try, you will never know.

Good luck. There is plenty of science out there that recovery/sleep is instrumental in continued high performance in the gym.

If you are just trying to maintain or don't care about that...then, sure...yeah, why not give it a shot.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Good luck. There is plenty of science out there that recovery/sleep is instrumental in continued high performance in the gym.

If you are just trying to maintain or don't care about that...then, sure...yeah, why not give it a shot.

It's not all about gains. If I have to sacrifice a bit but on the other hand get so much more out of my days, so be it. I'm actually pretty happy with how I look and perform right now. If I can maintain that with (for now) 6 hours sleep at the max only that'll do.

However, I have high hopes - and this is total bro-science - that over time I'll just become a more effective sleeper. I read quite a lot about sleeping over the years and the way I understood it is that REM sleep is the most important and that you need around 4 hours of it. So if I keep doing this my guess is that I'll just get into REM sleep faster eventually. Ever since I can remember I've been a bad sleeper. Meaning, it takes me forever to fall asleep. Often times I have to listen to music for 30 minutes or longer. Not even two weeks into the new schedule I already started to fall asleep faster. So far, so good.

But we'll see. I can also see this thing backfiring big time eventually. Wanna try though.

 

[JimmyRustler]

I just tore my lower back again… First time during deadlifts…Dang it…. Hold me bros…

Had almost the same thing 2 months ago while squatting. I knew what was the issue back then but now I'm unsure… It wasn't even the weight for my main set yet and I felt it in my left buttock when I dropped the bar. Think I kept holding the bar too long. Should he dropped it earlier (as soon as it passed the knee).

Dang it… Dang it…

Got two weeks to get back on track as then I wanna do a block with 2 workouts per day for a week.

Well… it is what it is… live an learn.

 

[Baemono]

Welp, lost 35lbs, abs more defined than ever, 29 inches waist, while still having 18 inches arms, pretty good balance. But I wanted to go as down as 176lbs (currently at 189) and my body is like "nope, enough is enough, I don't want to go even lower"

 

[Raven117]

I just tore my lower back again… First time during deadlifts…Dang it…. Hold me bros…

Had almost the same thing 2 months ago while squatting. I knew what was the issue back then but now I'm unsure… It wasn't even the weight for my main set yet and I felt it in my left buttock when I dropped the bar. Think I kept holding the bar too long. Should he dropped it earlier (as soon as it passed the knee).

Dang it… Dang it…

Got two weeks to get back on track as then I wanna do a block with 2 workouts per day for a week.

Well… it is what it is… live an learn.

What do you mean? Tore your back? Just a little back tweak? I hope you are looking into how to take care of it. (Keep it moving)

Welp, lost 35lbs, abs more defined than ever, 29 inches waist, while still having 18 inches arms, pretty good balance. But I wanted to go as down as 176lbs (currently at 189) and my body is like "nope, enough is enough, I don't want to go even lower"

Awesome results! Yeah, you hit the plateau. Some say you can maintain for a month or two, then go for it again. (or maintain and bulk)

 

[JimmyRustler]

What do you mean? Tore your back? Just a little back tweak? I hope you are looking into how to take care of it. (Keep it moving)

It was wild. While lowering the weight during my deadlift I felt a little sting in my left buttock and knew that was it. Until I got home I could barely stand up as the pain moved to my lower back. Said my prayers before going to bed (dead srs) and had a sleepless night as my backpain peaked. Then the next day the pain all but vanished until lunch, it was unbelievable. Talk about being religious…

Anyway, I did only lighter weight training last week and this week was back to my full workout (incl. deadlift) with no issues whatsoever.

Took off work next week (as I usually do every quarter) to do a focused workout week. Plan on training twice a day for the whole week this time (haven't done that for more than a decade). Cardio session in the morning and then an high intense full body workout in the late afternoon. Been waiting for this for weeks now. Just hope I won't injure myself.

 

[Baemono]

Awesome results! Yeah, you hit the plateau. Some say you can maintain for a month or two, then go for it again. (or maintain and bulk)

I think I'll start another bulking cycle for the next 6 months, and then go even lower

 

[Raven117]

It was wild. While lowering the weight during my deadlift I felt a little sting in my left buttock and knew that was it. Until I got home I could barely stand up as the pain moved to my lower back. Said my prayers before going to bed (dead srs) and had a sleepless night as my backpain peaked. Then the next day the pain all but vanished until lunch, it was unbelievable. Talk about being religious…

Anyway, I did only lighter weight training last week and this week was back to my full workout (incl. deadlift) with no issues whatsoever.

Took off work next week (as I usually do every quarter) to do a focused workout week. Plan on training twice a day for the whole week this time (haven't done that for more than a decade). Cardio session in the morning and then an high intense full body workout in the late afternoon. Been waiting for this for weeks now. Just hope I won't injure myself.

Sounds like you had a sciatic issue. Great news that you are feeling better!

I think I'll start another bulking cycle for the next 6 months, and then go even lower

It will be MUCH easier the second time around, and you may find you don't have to go weight-wise lower. You will look better at a higher body fat percentage because you have some good muscle. (It took me 15 years to understand this).

 

[Baemono]

It will be MUCH easier the second time around, and you may find you don't have to go weight-wise lower. You will look better at a higher body fat percentage because you have some good muscle. (It took me 15 years to understand this).

that was actually my second (serious) cut, and I do indeed look way better than after my first cut (and bigger somehow). After a 3rd cycle I think I'll reach a great balance and then try to maintain

 

[Raven117]

that was actually my second (serious) cut, and I do indeed look way better than after my first cut (and bigger somehow). After a 3rd cycle I think I'll reach a great balance and then try to maintain

Hell yeah man! Rock on! Of course you look bigger, you put on muscle!

 

[Raven117]

It was wild. While lowering the weight during my deadlift I felt a little sting in my left buttock and knew that was it. Until I got home I could barely stand up as the pain moved to my lower back. Said my prayers before going to bed (dead srs) and had a sleepless night as my backpain peaked. Then the next day the pain all but vanished until lunch, it was unbelievable. Talk about being religious…

Anyway, I did only lighter weight training last week and this week was back to my full workout (incl. deadlift) with no issues whatsoever.

Took off work next week (as I usually do every quarter) to do a focused workout week. Plan on training twice a day for the whole week this time (haven't done that for more than a decade). Cardio session in the morning and then an high intense full body workout in the late afternoon. Been waiting for this for weeks now. Just hope I won't injure myself.

On a side note. I know this isn't your style, but I do hope you get enough rest, recovery and adaptation. You seem to enjoy beating the shit out of yourself!

 

[JimmyRustler]

On a side note. I know this isn't your style, but I do hope you get enough rest, recovery and adaptation. You seem to enjoy beating the shit out of yourself!

6 hours of sleep and not a minute more I grant myself.

That said, your concerns are much appreciated. I have now two days of working out twice behind me and so far… I feel ok actually. I think the key here really is to not be stupid. Meaning, don't max out when training this much. I don't think there is a need a well. For this week I switched from my usual splits to an extremely fast full body workout (only 20 seconds rest) and am loving it. Sure, it is a bit rough doing this after 90 minutes cardio in the morning but so far it's manageable. I'm actually a bit surprised given that I don't even take pre-workout so far.

Will give a short feedback at the end of the week to let you guys know how it went.

 

[Raven117]

6 hours of sleep and not a minute more I grant myself.

That said, your concerns are much appreciated. I have now two days of working out twice behind me and so far… I feel ok actually. I think the key here really is to not be stupid. Meaning, don't max out when training this much. I don't think there is a need a well. For this week I switched from my usual splits to an extremely fast full body workout (only 20 seconds rest) and am loving it. Sure, it is a bit rough doing this after 90 minutes cardio in the morning but so far it's manageable. I'm actually a bit surprised given that I don't even take pre-workout so far.

Will give a short feedback at the end of the week to let you guys know how it went.

Ha! It is a little concern. I know you like tinkering with your workouts, running experiments to see how you respond. But just remember at the end of the day. You don't get stronger from lifting weights, you get stronger by recovering from adapting from lifting weights.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Ha! It is a little concern. I know you like tinkering with your workouts, running experiments to see how you respond. But just remember at the end of the day. You don't get stronger from lifting weights, you get stronger by recovering from adapting from lifting weights.

I've long since passed that point where I even care if I get stronger or bigger. This is about finding out how far I can push it. I'm well aware that I may be doing more harm than good here for my progress in the gym. It doesn't matter. The purpose of this weeks workout is to train my mind.

 

[Raven117]

I've long since passed that point where I even care if I get stronger or bigger. This is about finding out how far I can push it. I'm well aware that I may be doing more harm than good here for my progress in the gym. It doesn't matter. The purpose of this weeks workout is to train my mind.

Fair enough! Just don't beat yourself up too too much!

 

[JimmyRustler]

Ok guys, I'm 5 days into the workout schedule and I find myself a bit confused. Going into it I thought I'll be running on fumes but now but actually I'm literally getting stronger and fitter each day. I've been both ramping up my cardio in the morning and my weight training in the afternoon... Only my shins are killing me because I usually end my cardio in the morning with my max possible 1 minute sprint (I'm prolly gonna dial down tomorrow and on Sunday to avoid injury if it doesn't get better by a miracle).

Me being me, you guess what I am already doing...

Can I actually pull off 3 workouts a day? I think I can. Up at 6am and do a lower body (1,5 hours) workout, then a cardio workout (1 hour) after lunch and upper bodyworkout (1,5 hours) after dinner.

Hmm... I plan on doing 3 weeks holiday end of the year and will probably at least try it one week there. Just "doing it" should not even be the problem but I'm not sure I can fit this into my day and then still get the 6 hours of sleep. Well... you don't know if you don't try.

That said, I think I now confirmed to myself that both my nutrition and supplementation are spot on and I'll never have to fiddle around with it again.

2 more day to go. I may make the 2x a day workout a regular thing on the weekend. Can fit it easily into my day and I just feel better throughout the day if I started it with a bit of cardio. There is no denying any more.

 

[Baemono]

I used to pull of 5 workout per week, but nowadays even two is too much to handle and I need a full week to recover, I'm getting old.

 

[JimmyRustler]

So since I had an accident with my car on Saturday I'm in a bit of a shitty situation with my workout, so I plan to do something wild this week. As I only have access to my moms car during the weekend, I'll just do it as see how it goes... 3 times workout a day on both Saturday and Sunday.

I'm still a bit conflicted on how to structure my day. It'll probably be something like this:

* Get up at 6am.
* Breakfast
* First session (heavy weight, low reps) from 7:00 to 8:30am, back home until 9am
* 9am snack
* Lunch
* 2nd session (medium weight, high reps) from 01:30 to 03:00pm, back home until 03:30pm
* Dinner
* 3rd session (lightweight, high reps + cardio) from 07:00pm to 08:30pm, back home at 9pm
* 9pm snack
* Chill down and go to sleep at 0pm

Let's see if I can pull this off.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

So since I had an accident with my car on Saturday I'm in a bit of a shitty situation with my workout, so I plan to do something wild this week. As I only have access to my moms car during the weekend, I'll just do it as see how it goes... 3 times workout a day on both Saturday and Sunday.

I'm still a bit conflicted on how to structure my day. It'll probably be something like this:

* Get up at 6am.
* Breakfast
* First session (heavy weight, low reps) from 7:00 to 8:30am, back home until 9am
* 9am snack
* Lunch
* 2nd session (medium weight, high reps) from 01:30 to 03:00pm, back home until 03:30pm
* Dinner
* 3rd session (lightweight, high reps + cardio) from 07:00pm to 08:30pm, back home at 9pm
* 9pm snack
* Chill down and go to sleep at 0pm

Let's see if I can pull this off.

All I can say is this: get advice from a professional trainer before you hurt yourself.

 

[JimmyRustler]

All I can say is this: get advice from a professional trainer before you hurt yourself.

Well, since ChatGPT told me this is basically a training people do only when preparing for the olympics it should be pretty clear what said professional would advise me to do.

I know this schedule is quite extreme but I want to try it once regardless. Last weekend I did two time training on both Saturday and Sunday and it actually went really well. Meaning, I felt great Sunday evening. I doubt that adding 1 more workout with low weights on each day will make a whole lot of a difference. I'm honestly more concerned about the timing of the whole thing and if I can manage it without too much stress - especially since I just had an accident with my car. Not that I have another one now...

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Well, since ChatGPT told me this is basically a training people do only when preparing for the olympics it should be pretty clear what said professional would advise me to do.

I know this schedule is quite extreme but I want to try it once regardless. Last weekend I did two time training on both Saturday and Sunday and it actually went really well. Meaning, I felt great Sunday evening. I doubt that adding 1 more workout with low weights on each day will make a whole lot of a difference. I'm honestly more concerned about the timing of the whole thing and if I can manage it without too much stress - especially since I just had an accident with my car. Not that I have another one now...

Man, seriously, get professional advice. I'm not going to tell you anything more, because you shouldn't be looking for fitness advice on a gaming forum. Do it before you hurt yourself, please.

 

[flying_sq]

Question, I alternate between standing dumbbell curls, and preacher curls with a machine. I always find that with the machine, I can do significantly more. Example, I just moved from 35 to 40lb dumbbells, and can do 6 curls at 40, slowly making my way up to 8. On a preacher, I can bust out sets of 7-8.

So my question is, are machine just easier? I always thought they were just more for isolation than anything else.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Alright, it's Sunday 9pm here and I am munching on my cottage cheese.

6 workouts in 2 days

I don't like to boast but it's only 3-4 people reading here anyway. That was probably the wildest thing I've ever done and I did do some crazy stuff already. I'm proud of myself. Will probably do it again soon.

That said, I didn't find it too bad to be honest. The real marvel here was my time management. Believe me when I tell you guys that I was on the clock almost down to my morning dump.

I may post my schedule in the coming days if there is interest. Now I'm off to chill out and play Death Stranding.

 

[Baemono]

Question, I alternate between standing dumbbell curls, and preacher curls with a machine. I always find that with the machine, I can do significantly more. Example, I just moved from 35 to 40lb dumbbells, and can do 6 curls at 40, slowly making my way up to 8. On a preacher, I can bust out sets of 7-8.

So my question is, are machine just easier? I always thought they were just more for isolation than anything else.

As you said, the machine helps you to focus on the muscle(s) you want to train while the dumbbells you have like half of your body (or even your full body if you're standing up) trying its best to help you achieve the movement. So you can spend more time and energy with dumbbells while the machine will help you increase one specific part.

However, this depends on how you train on the machine at the end, so both statements can be true and false at the same time. I tend to do machines when I want to focus on certain parts, while using dumbbells/bars to have a more comprehensive workout.

Like today I did this

While sometimes I do this

As you can see, pretty much the same muscles are being trained, but the range of your motion is (or can be) greater

 

[JimmyRustler]

Alright, since now 2-3 time training a day are something regular for me now and I have 3 weeks off at the end of the year, I'm planning my magnus opus workout block.

3 weeks will be structured like this:

Monday (Cardio): 1,5 hours of cardio in the morning (+walk in the afternoon if weather is good)

Tuesday (1 workout): Full Body Workout (High Reps) in the afternoon

Wednesday (2 workouts, Lower Body): Heavy weights, low reps in the morning - Mid weights, mid reps in the afternoon

Thursday (2 workouts, Upper Body): Heavy weights, low reps in the morning - Mid weights, mid reps in the afternoon

Friday (Cardio): 1,5 hours of cardio in the morning (+walk in the afternoon if weather is good)

Saturday (3 workouts, Lower Body): Heavy weights, low reps in the morning - Mid weights, mid reps in the afternoon - Low Weight or Bodyweight, max reps in the evening

Sunday (3 workouts, Upper Body): Heavy weights, low reps in the morning - Mid weights, mid reps in the afternoon - Low Weight or Bodyweight, max reps in the evening

Each day has a special nutrition (already worked out but I won't bother you with it).

So much for the plan. If I can actually pull this off I may as well quit after because I don't know where to go from there.

 

[Baemono]

After cutting 30lbs, I'm back at bulking, with a special focus on the legs (went from 30 inches to 24 inches during my cut, now back at 28 inches). I used to hate to squat, but it's growing in me, I like the feeling afterwards, even the soreness.