DaciaJC
Gold Member
I've had exactly the same experience. About 6-7 hours since the update, played Forge only two or three times, while Temple Garden never came up in rotation.
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I've had exactly the same experience. About 6-7 hours since the update, played Forge only two or three times, while Temple Garden never came up in rotation.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Have you not gone into Map Vote and just
Voted for the new maps? Works almost all the time ...
Marvel
could never
Same, dying to.
Psychoward
Banned
I have, they don't show up.
I think there must be some bug related to Temple Garden specifically since there was a thread on the subreddit and people were saying they had never played on it as well.
Regardless Ubi should have boosted the chance of the DLC maps coming up for like 2 or 3 weeks.
Tr1Cky_Tr33
Member
Have managed temple garden on Duel quite a few times. Nice not to have environmental hazards all over the place.
Definitely enjoying Centurion more than Shinobi but i can see the latter being excellent in larger game modes with the chasing down of fleeing enemies and having a range attack. I've struggled to get going with all the assassins and this is no different (do enjoy the slide tackle though!!) but have loved the hybrids, maybe that's why i enjoy Centurion more.
Seem to be able to counter even more regularly than before and the Centurion's parry->guard break move is great. Also enjoy kicking people like the scene from 300
Definitely enjoying Centurion more than Shinobi but i can see the latter being excellent in larger game modes with the chasing down of fleeing enemies and having a range attack. I've struggled to get going with all the assassins and this is no different (do enjoy the slide tackle though!!) but have loved the hybrids, maybe that's why i enjoy Centurion more.
Seem to be able to counter even more regularly than before and the Centurion's parry->guard break move is great. Also enjoy kicking people like the scene from 300
Psychoward
Banned
Durrzerker
Banned
I am very proud of nailing this read just right:
https://i.gyazo.com/11bc5a5a7318b461c0d0c51189ab8ffe.mp4
https://i.gyazo.com/11bc5a5a7318b461c0d0c51189ab8ffe.mp4
Marvel
could never
Durrzerker
Banned
Pretty neat video
but why'd you call it rage of Sparta when that's greek and Centurion is roman-based
Marvel
could never
Chuck the Bean
Member
Marvel
could never
Lol dang it.and now, you are less ignorant...
Yoda: Stealth edits we are witnessing...
CommandThrower
Member
Holy cow, the Centurion looks like so much fun. I'll have to jump on and learn him soon.
Marvel
could never
He's very good. You can make your shit pretty safe too, brutal if you don't understand the mu.
For those who have played Shinobi have any of you noticed any issue's with her dodge roll and revenge?
It's almost like her roll doesn't have any immunity to it. I get caught in rolls with guardbreaks that would normally make people bounce off with other characters (trying to get out of vortex spam/mix ups and etc). With her revenge it seems like there is a huge delay between pressing it and when it goes off and a super specific timing on it to make it auto-parry attacks. I get killed sooo many times because of these things seeming to not work like they do with other characters.
I play on PC.
It's almost like her roll doesn't have any immunity to it. I get caught in rolls with guardbreaks that would normally make people bounce off with other characters (trying to get out of vortex spam/mix ups and etc). With her revenge it seems like there is a huge delay between pressing it and when it goes off and a super specific timing on it to make it auto-parry attacks. I get killed sooo many times because of these things seeming to not work like they do with other characters.
I play on PC.
CommandThrower
Member
I want to learn him because of wallsplat+unblockable lunge+unblockable knockdown punch+leaping stab.
Like...holy shit, that's so cool looking!
Marvel
could never
Not only cool looking! you can almost kill shugoki with that sequence lmao it leaves like 1 stock of hp. It does obscene dmg.
What you wanna do is this,
GB, light punch, light punch, wallthrow, fully charged heavy, fully charged punch (GB button) then lunge stab. This can be done from a quick throw too (minus the GB's two punches to the face ofc)
It's really easy.
Centurion THRIVES near the wall, just like some characters in fighters thrive in the corner preassure game. He is one of em, make a wall or a ledge your friend and you are good to go.
Make his heavy attacks safe (ish) with the punch. Though good players will dodge and punish, same for the sparta kick lol.
He plays surprisingly like Lawbringer, since he is my main in the xbox version it didn't take too long to adjust. Be warned, Cen is a bit squishy.
Equip Phalanx and Haymaker as your feats, always. Pugio is pretty good in one on ones (spear that traps) and Body count natrually for Dominion.
Edit: just hot rep 3 with him, awwwww yeah
Psychoward
Banned
and yeah Pugio is great for ledge kills
I use Haymaker and Phalanx as well
Psychoward
Banned
That's a really nice cloak, I have a similar setup for one of my alt outfits. Working on learning Shinobi/getting him to Rep 1 now though.
Chuck the Bean
Member
So what's the best way to counter the Shonobi's ranged attack? Thanks
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Improved, yes.
Perfect, no.
Still a ways to go, but better than weeks 3-6 after launch and at least they communicate a roadmap
Psychoward
Banned
Same as any other, dodge, block or parry. It's annoying as hell when you're outnumbered though.
Also something is seriously off with the i-frames on her dodge (or at least double dodge).
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
The amount of unique animation they put into each character is staggering. I thought this would fall off some with the DLC characters, but it turned out to be some of their best, most animation-dense work yet. Shinobi even has a gender variant (although this is the first time I don't notice any gender-specific animation or customization on a gender-swap character).
You could take ANY for honor character and compare them to ANY adventure or action game protagonist, and For Honor wins the animation battle. And For Honor has 14 goddamn "protagonists".
I'm playing The Witcher 3 atm, and any For Honor character just absolutely shames Geralt in terms of animation and (especially) control.
You could take ANY for honor character and compare them to ANY adventure or action game protagonist, and For Honor wins the animation battle. And For Honor has 14 goddamn "protagonists".
I'm playing The Witcher 3 atm, and any For Honor character just absolutely shames Geralt in terms of animation and (especially) control.
So you noticed it too? I'm glad I'm not the only one. The I-frames in general on her seem to be messed up. Rolling, double dodge, revenge and etc. Guardbreaks seem to catch you even if you've already begun to roll and attacks go straight through revenge without being auto-parried 90% of the time. I've found the only way to safely get distance between an attacker with her is to land an attack and use her backflip ability. Otherwise you're pretty much forced to stay in close range, because trying to dodge or roll away just ends up in a guardbreak and punish or an attack tracking you through the dodge.
As for the best way to deal with her ranged attacks ideally you want to parry or counter-guardbreak as this will pull her to you and knock her down allowing for some big punish. If you're fighting multiple people at once you can target someone other than shinobi and just set your block in her direction and her ranged attacks will be auto-blocked as long as you're not in the middle of an attack yourself and etc. Then you just have to watch out for the ranged guardbreak. Also, you can position yourself so that their teammates are in-between you and the shinobi and their attacks/guardbreaks will hit their teammates.
Psychoward
Banned
Yep, I've only played her in one 4v4 game though so I can't comment about revenge but the most glaring issue I'm getting guard broken while in the middle of my double dodge which.. just.. what
There's also an issue where if a character starts to move towards me with an attack (even if it's interruptible) and I hit them with the ranged heavy, if they're close enough they'll just shrug it off and finish their attack while mine doesn't do any damage. That may be an intentional design choice to make sure the ranged heavy can't be spammed from close/medium range or something but it feels weird as hell.
I'm on PS4.
Psychoward
Banned
I created a thread on Reddit about the Shinobi bugs. Hope they're hotfixed soon.
Edit: apparently I was wrong about the teleport, oh well
It just seems weird that the Shinobi can literally disappear and still be broken.
Edit: apparently I was wrong about the teleport, oh well
It just seems weird that the Shinobi can literally disappear and still be broken.
SolicitorPirate
Member
So I've got a Valk question. After parrying, is a forward dash into guard break techable? I've been told it's not a guaranteed guard break anymore, but I've literally never had anyone tech out of it. And I'm not jut fighting newbies; I've duelled a lot of players who should be good enough to tech if it wasn't guaranteed.
I've been away from the game for a week or so and just logged in now to see the results of the patch
The results of the patch are that the equipment I spent steel on leveling up now have completely different stats than what I wanted. I had a Valk helm at 18 with full debuff resistance, and now it has -20%.
Fuck you, Ubisoft.
The results of the patch are that the equipment I spent steel on leveling up now have completely different stats than what I wanted. I had a Valk helm at 18 with full debuff resistance, and now it has -20%.
Fuck you, Ubisoft.
Alpha Centauri
Member
Sucks you feel like that. imo, the stat system needed a rework something fierce. I'm glad they changed it. Too early to tell for sure, but the stat allocation atleast to me seems a lot better.
Inskipp
Member
Have you tried sending in a ticket to Ubisoft-support? I'd imagine they would offer some form of reimbursement in situations like this.
It's worth a shot, I feel.
Yes, it is techable, though maybe only against characters with long range weapons like nobushi and etc. Of course against short range characters you shouldn't need to dash to guard break after a parry anyway.
Sure the system in general needed work, and I'm fine with certain stats being changed (to fix revenge etc), but that's very different from changing the number assigned to a stat that wasn't changed. Imagine if you spent steel on a weapon to max your attack stat, and after the patch it still HAS an attack stat, only it's pulled a 180 and is now negative attack. That's fucked up, and now it's useless.
Psychoward
Banned
Yeah one of my fears with upgrading my gear was that they'd patch the stats later. Glad I never bothered lol. I just wish I could make it so literally every piece of gear I have right now just gets the very small bonuses in each category with no negatives.
Chuck the Bean
Member
Maxed out my Nobushi.
She's a deadly 144 wreaking havok in Dominion.
Love it!
She's a deadly 144 wreaking havok in Dominion.
Love it!
Chuck the Bean
Member
Even Debuf resistance?
Psychoward
Banned
I have no idea what they're gonna nerf or remove so I don't bother. Plus it costs steel and not just salvage which is dumb and I'd rather buy cosmetic stuff with steel. I also think all the 4v4 modes are just kinda casual throwaway modes where balance isn't a factor at all considering the ganking, unblockables, feats etc.
If I could make all my orders duel and brawl I'd probably never play 4v4 again.
Chuck the Bean
Member
They are not gonna touch the weapon/armor set up soon. They just changed it.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Every time this thread pops up, I laugh. This has to be the best thread OT subtitle to date
Durrzerker
Banned
I GOT THEM READS
Psychoward
Banned
Shinobi are straight up cancer in 4v4 now Jesus christ. I disliked 4v4 before but now it's even worse.
Countering her ranged guard break doesn't stun her for as long or pull her in as much as it did when the dlc launched and at least one of those changes should be reverted.
Countering her ranged guard break doesn't stun her for as long or pull her in as much as it did when the dlc launched and at least one of those changes should be reverted.
DeathByBacklog
Member
Finally picked out my gear and maxed out my Zerker. The results...
Chuck the Bean
Member
Yeah, it's great to reach 144. Costly though...