Coulomb_Barrier
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This guy doesn't sound bitter at all...what a waste of energy.
I'm sorry but somehow I couldn't find Sekiro, Resident Evil 2 remake or even Ace Combat 7 on epics shop. We must be talking about different Shops because Epics store has exactly 0 indefinite exusives and only timed exclusives and if we take metro as a example, they seem to sell not that well on it, or in Devision 2s case, not even a exclusive game on their list. We all know where people buy Devision and that's most certainly 95% on uPlay.corrected:
That is actually what Ubisoft has said in one of their annual reports.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ubis...-price-retail-software-70-on-digital.1183329/
The pdf (and video from the other thread) is sadly not available anymore, but I was able to find a screenshot
I believe retailers get 12% not 25%.
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What exactly is epic 'fixing for the gamers'? Maybe fixing things for developers so that they get a bit more profits until Epic has a huge marketshare and they start ramping up their royalties.
I would laugh if this came true, but instead of moving to the Epic Store, people just got consoles instead. =p
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Is this a joke? Epic store's number of games LITERALLY is in two digits and you think steam is the one that doesn't have games?
Epic exclusives aren't sustainable. They're burning through cash to get people into the store, but they won't be able to keep it up forever. And the funny thing is that if they manage to loosen the stronghold Valve has on digital market then it will lead to every publisher getting their own store, not selling their games on Epic, because Epic's 12% is still a lot compared to 0% from your own store. Once Epic stops being heaps of cash for exclusives they will stop coming.
Is this a joke? Epic store's number of games LITERALLY is in two digits and you think steam is the one that doesn't have games?
Bruh you should try out at the Comedy Store. There's a promising career in stand-up waiting for you.
LOL if only
I'm sorry but somehow I couldn't find Sekiro, Resident Evil 2 remake or even Ace Combat 7 on epics shop. We must be talking about different Shops because Epics store has exactly 0 indefinite exusives and only timed exclusives and if we take metro as a example, they seem to sell not that well on it, or in Devision 2s case, not even a exclusive game on their list. We all know where people buy Devision and that's most certainly 95% on uPlay.
They've also got devs working there who have personal warchests along with Tencent backing. This company isn't going anywhere.Fortnite reportedly made $3 billion in 2018.
They can keep it up for quite a long time.
along with Tencent backing
Hello there
"[...] being backed up by people who hate the freedom that Steam offers [...]" - my post
I don't know who is pushing or being part of a narrative here, considering your long effort in the various Epic Store threads, as well as you ridiculing a fair criticism and think you've somehow bypassed it:
Do you play all games at the same time ? Does that mean google app store is better store because it has more games ?
The point here is that features doesn't matter when your favorite games are not in the store.
You can't play "cloud saves"
Neither you can play "friends list"
If i am fan of Metro, it doesn't matter what Steam features give me since there is no Metro on Steam.
If i am fan of GTA6 it doesn't matter what kind of community Steam has if it will be released only on Rockstar Store.
People play games not features. Which is why Epic will carve out part of marketshare despite all nayseyers and outrage.
Do you actually believe people "hate the freedom that Steam offers" or not you clown?
If i am fan of Metro, it doesn't matter what Steam features give me since there is no Metro on Steam.
If i am fan of GTA6 it doesn't matter what kind of community Steam has if it will be released only on Rockstar Store.
So your argument that epic will do fine is "but I like metro" and that's it? I even gave you examples of critically acclaimed games
You can use the exact same argument to argue in favor of Steam, only instead of being limited to two games (one of which doesn't even exist yet) you have hundreds of critically acclaimed titles to choose from.
Fortnite reportedly made $3 billion in 2018.
They can keep it up for quite a long time.
It takes time to build in all of those features and they probably didn't want to wait that long while they have all that fornite cash.They'd stand a better chance if they made a Store that could match Steam on features. Coming out with a Client that is as barebones as they did seems like a huge oversight.
If i am fan of Metro, it doesn't matter what Steam features give me since there is no Metro on Steam.
If i am fan of GTA6 it doesn't matter what kind of community Steam has if it will be released only on Rockstar Store.
People play games not features. Which is why Epic will carve out part of market share despite all naysayers and outrage.
It takes time to build in all of those features and they probably didn't want to wait that long while they have all that Fornite cash.
Did you not understand the post? I'll spell it out to you. This is what my quote said: "being backed up by people who hate the freedom that Steam offers "
Let's break it down:
[being backed up by] = supported by
[people] = some people
[people who hate the freedom that Steam offers] = some people that dislike the freedom that Steam offers]
[freedom that Steam offers]=lack of restrictions in your use of the store offered by Steam (and the features they allow for that matter)
This does not mean: 1. people supporting Epic hates freedom or 2. that all people supporting Epic hate the freedom that Steam offers.
Nor was that a subject of it, considering it was said in the context of why I don't like the push from Epic, if you saw the rest of the sentence..
Wow cool thanks for the giant watermarked stock image, the perfect end to the rest of your illiterate babbling. Do you actually think there is anyone here on planet Earth who "hates the freedom that Steam offers". Seriously this is super simple. Yes or no? These are you own damn words take some responsibility for the stupid shit you're saying. If the answer is no then say that.
Do you play all games at the same time ? Does that mean google app store is better store because it has more games ?
The point here is that features doesn't matter when your favorite games are not in the store.
You can't play "cloud saves"
Neither you can play "friends list"
If i am fan of Metro, it doesn't matter what Steam features give me since there is no Metro on Steam.
If i am fan of GTA6 it doesn't matter what kind of community Steam has if it will be released only on Rockstar Store.
People play games not features. Which is why Epic will carve out part of marketshare despite all nayseyers and outrage.
With that much money, they should be able to afford an army of coders to throw at the problem.
Without checking: is the same idiot that said steam was killing PC gaming?
Man that guy is super salty about Valve.
Yes, you'd have a hard time convincing anyone that the answer to this isn't yes. A single person is enough to falsify the claim of "No one on Earth hates the freedom that Steam offers". I see you're rowing along and I'm excited to see where this leads.
Man that guy is super salty about Valve.
No way. Devs have been selling games directly for good decade before Steam came and they still do it outside Steam. And uPlay? 12% is completely ridiculous number. There's no way it costs more than 1-2% . Epic said the costs of running the actual store is 2%.Nothing is 0%, if you make your own store you have to pay for the hosting, software, infrastructure, electricity, staff to run in and code for it. It’s MORE costly to build your own store upfront. I wouldn’t be surprised if that 12% is about close to what UPlay probably cost UBI to keep up and running
Okay lol good argument. If at least one person on planet Earth hates freedom then yep, good job. Although remember your specific claim is that "the people backing Epic"--what I guess we have to characterize as the anti-freedom cabal--"hate the freedom that Steam offers". Not that I'm losing faith in the persuasive power of GIS but maybe there's an argument here that doesn't trade in bizarre characterizations of "somebody, somewhere" and even takes the admittedly extreme step of addressing the actual criticisms of Steam that are like, super obvious and widely available to anybody who can read?