IrishNinja
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...fuck. really hoping the major lifting was already done here, Levine deserves better than to have this get Last Guardian'd.
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[Four] top Bioshock Infinite team members leave Irrational
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...fuck. really hoping the major lifting was already done here, Levine deserves better than to have this get Last Guardian'd.
Goldenroad
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This and GTAV have to be next gen games, right? I don't see either of them coming out for current gen systems with next gen systems being a year or so away (presumably).
Sounds like we might be lucky to get them at all.
Not necessarily. Fiscal 2014 takes place mostly in 2013.
And that's assuming either the next PlayStation or Xbox will actually launch at the end of 2013, which is not a given.
BioShock Infinite live demos happened more than a year ago. GTAV trailers show visual parity with GTAIV. I'm pretty sure both are current gen.
There are very few games we know of that are very likely to be next gen. One is LucasArts' Star Wars 1313.
I think they're having trouble with the kart racing mini game
Criminal Upper
Banned
Probably walked out when 2K mandated it must have multiplayer and horde modes.
Nonsense, I hear its the Kinect minigame that's causing a lot of grief over there.
element
Member
The guys name is Ken Strickland. He came from Insomniac Games and High Impact Games.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Hadn't realised this. I can definitely see another delay coming now :s
Goldenroad
Member
Maybe they are just realizing this, which is why neither has been shown for almost a year, and really all that GTAV trailer was for was to give you a taste of the setting. I could see either, or both being moved to next gen consoles...maybe they will still put out versions for current gen consoles, but if next XBOX and Playstation are coming out in 2013, these games will be coming out for them I bet...and the end of that article points to 2014 for release dates.
Delusibeta
Banned
Yikes. I'm not sure how you can paint this as anything other than bad news for the game. Hopefully I'm over-reacting but: not good. Not good at all.
Some of you are honestly worried by this news? And that line about GTA V and Infinite releasing in 2014 is a joke, some analysts throw out garble just because it sounds good.
Bioware bleeding employees is a sign somethings wrong, people transferring jobs isn't.
EDIT: Didn't know the fiscal year 2014 started in 2013, so yeah, GTA V and Bioshock Infinite being pushed a couple months wouldn't be a biggie.
Bioware bleeding employees is a sign somethings wrong, people transferring jobs isn't.
EDIT: Didn't know the fiscal year 2014 started in 2013, so yeah, GTA V and Bioshock Infinite being pushed a couple months wouldn't be a biggie.
Bill Squabber
Member
This probably means Infinite is in trouble or Take Two is forcing them to make a game they dont want to make.
haha Bioshock was probable the most predictable game I've played this generation. If you played system shock 2 then you already know everything that's going to happen in Bioshcock.
This is what I'm most concerned about. If the delay was caused by the addition of a feature or mode that the team was against, I could see key people leaving because of it.
snoopeasystreet
Member
They probably don't want to lower their metacritic ratings if the game turns out to be shit. No one will hire them.
Fiscal 2014 is April 2013-March 2014.
That still leaves November, December, January, February, and March completely empty. Outside of Game Party Wii U
I feel the main reason they would be hesitant to miss their release dates is because their shareholders are always on the brink of revolt and they already missed one year's expectations by a lot.
If they do it again (for the same reason as every year, product delays) compounded with the poor performance of Max Payne 3 and Spec Ops (which means investors can't even count on a safe hit like a Rockstar May title anymore), I can't imagine faith in management will be high.
element
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There was a lot of back and forth between those studios. Actually Scott Sinclair, the new art director, was at Irrational went to Harmonix and then went back to Irrational. Same with Patrick Balthrop who is the audio director at Irrational.
Boston has a really small game development community. You really have a handful of options to work.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Dat Borderlands 2 and Max Payne 3 DLC (at least that's what they'll rest on in financial calls).
At this point, the only thing they can really bank on is Borderlands 2. And I think Borderlands 2 will do extremely well. I'll even say that it'll be their best selling game for this year. I would love Enemy Unknown to do well also, but it's not gonna happen. It'll probably do well for 'that kind of game', but that's it.
So they need to get some info out about Bioshock and about GTA, and that info doesn't need to be 'We don't know when its coming out.' or 'They're hard at work'. If I were a shareholder, I'd probably feel safer with THQ at this point, and that's crazy to say considering their financial situation. But at least with THQ, they've been very transparent. Here's what we're doing, here's what we're hoping it will accomplish, and here's what our plans for the future are. 2k seems like they wait for Rockstar and Irrational to tell them something rather than saying 'hey, what the fuck is going on?'
GillianSeed79
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That article makes it sound like Bioshock Infinite is in development hell or something. Yeesh. I know people change jobs all the time, but the one guy was with the studio for 13 years? How does that and a possible 2014 release date bode well? I wonder if it's a case of Take2 getting pissed at the game taking too long or if working for Irrational is as hellish as any other game company I've read about.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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I´m just selfish. Bioshock Infinite has a very nice art direction and i would love to see that game with great high resolution textures and shaders.
Play it on PC, it'll look on par with the first generation PS480 titles anyway.
Poimandres
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When was this game announced? Pretty much exactly 2 years ago?
Now people are wondering if it will ever be released?
Come on... it's a longer development cycle than most games, but this looks very ambitious. It also looked very far along even when it was first announced, so I'd say there's pretty much no chance this will get cancelled or pushed to infinity.
People leaving Irrational is sad, but I wouldn't be surprised if people get burnt out working on the same project for 5+ years and want a change of pace. All the best to those involved, and my hopes for this game are still... sky high.
Now people are wondering if it will ever be released?
Come on... it's a longer development cycle than most games, but this looks very ambitious. It also looked very far along even when it was first announced, so I'd say there's pretty much no chance this will get cancelled or pushed to infinity.
People leaving Irrational is sad, but I wouldn't be surprised if people get burnt out working on the same project for 5+ years and want a change of pace. All the best to those involved, and my hopes for this game are still... sky high.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Lots of PC ports have better quality versions of the same assets as the console versions, I imagine this will be the same. And that's all that would happen if it moved to next-gen too, they certainly wouldn't be remodeling/retexturing everything because of the memory bump.
Although you'd probably get some DX11 effects to be fair.
Alcoholikaust
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Eek.
Oh well let's pull for 2k Boston/irrational/etc. , shall we?
Oh well let's pull for 2k Boston/irrational/etc. , shall we?
element
Member
Depends. They might be DX11, so they could do tessellation on objects. They could also have a version on the PC that doesn't MIP down textures at all. So you would be playing with the highest possible assets created.
Kinda sad to see people equating the guys that left to a tester or something. "no big deal here..." :\
SniperHunter
Banned
guys should I cancel my pre-order? I have had the PC version pre-ordered since e3 2011 :/
sounds like the dev team is trying to hide the game from journalists, and what's with all the delays?
sounds like the dev team is trying to hide the game from journalists, and what's with all the delays?
ClivePwned
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I'm going to offer a contrary possibility (other than Levine's a pain to work for, project going over the cliff, etc)
perhaps- they were going anyway at the conclusion of the project, had other jobs lined up once BI was scheduled to go gold. Which, if it had kept its original release dates, would have been around now-ish. Some companies will keep a job open for quite a while to allow someone they really want to finish their current project, etc.
OR Levine's a pain to work for, project going over the cliff. Most guys at that level will see out a difficult project, though.
either way, it's still a game I'm looking forward to.
perhaps- they were going anyway at the conclusion of the project, had other jobs lined up once BI was scheduled to go gold. Which, if it had kept its original release dates, would have been around now-ish. Some companies will keep a job open for quite a while to allow someone they really want to finish their current project, etc.
OR Levine's a pain to work for, project going over the cliff. Most guys at that level will see out a difficult project, though.
either way, it's still a game I'm looking forward to.
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Deleted member 30609
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you know, this makes a lot of sense
What is this about?