astroturfing
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what about the misogyny?
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Frank Ocean (an acclaimed R&B/hip-hop artist) announces that he's bisexual
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what about the misogyny?
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qizah
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Good! Be proud of who you are.
Can't wait for Channel Orange
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Can't wait for Channel Orange
.Dark Knyght
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Lol. Thank you, kind sir. He no getty de jokey.
Phonomezer
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I guess I should put a press release together, seen as everyone and their dog seems to be doing it lately.
mescalineeyes
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Yeah that's not welcome either.
but I also listen to mewithoutYou eventhough I think religion is vile, so...
Nah....
Tevin Campbell came out in the 90's. Doesn't have a career now though, not sure why he stopped or if it had to do with his coming out.
Billy Strayhorn was openly gay in the '40s.
There's misogyny in most rap, rap isn't the genre for you if you're overly sensitive about gender politics, it's the genre you listen to when you just don't give a fuck. That feeling you get when you're in your car and "DIPSET DIPSET, DIPSET,DIP...SET!" comes on and you feel more unstoppable than the juggernaut. It's delusional and outlandish, but playing the part of Don Quixote just feels right at times. Just think of it as Urban punk.
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decided to check out the GAF-Hop thread
1. chi chi man 268 up, 43 down
"chi chi" is patois for termite (pest) and is a derogotary term for a homo-sexual. i.e. a gay person is as low as a termite
nice.
Blackace said:
1. chi chi man 268 up, 43 down
"chi chi" is patois for termite (pest) and is a derogotary term for a homo-sexual. i.e. a gay person is as low as a termite
nice.
Exactly this.
deadhorse32
Bad Art
Love Frank Ocean
Nobody's gonna make a big deal about someone they don't know.
You've got far too much good will towards the men in charge.
astroturfing
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"well everybody else does it" is not a good defense. misogyny/homophobia/racism is not needed in any genre, not in hiphop or punk.
some of the best Mobb Deep or Wu-Tang tracks dont have any offensive slurs, so its entirely possible to make a hard ass fucking rap song without hating on women or gays or anyone.
i think GZA is making an album with zero profanities or cursing. cant wait for that one. "Dark Matter" i think its called, dude is gonna rap about black holes and quantum stuff. fuck yea.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I updated the title to divert some of the most blatant "who dis lol i dunno" stuff.
I couldn't figure out a way to convey in the title that the significance of this is that the hip-hop community, as well as the African-American community more broadly, has in the past struggled with perceived or actual homophobia, and that people who have more contact with or who are closer to LBGT people tend to have more progressive opinions on LBGT issues, and so someone in this community coming out might have a positive effect on the community as a whole.
I couldn't figure out a way to convey in the title that the significance of this is that the hip-hop community, as well as the African-American community more broadly, has in the past struggled with perceived or actual homophobia, and that people who have more contact with or who are closer to LBGT people tend to have more progressive opinions on LBGT issues, and so someone in this community coming out might have a positive effect on the community as a whole.
Are you accusing a mod of using a homophobic slur?
Barkley's Justice
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Next up: Those members from Wu Tang, NWA, and G-Unit.
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i mean the post is right there: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39498420&postcount=15399
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that's one sharp penis.
You don't get it. It's not a question of need. Some forms of rap are all about the "excess".
blame mod
Do you even understand the context of what he said?
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I.. I think I do. Could you elaborate?
How long before a DJ, opens for Frank Ocean, with the song Chichiman
How is this a mod being homophobic?
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uh, because he was using it in reference to someone coming out as bisexual? am i missing something?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
He wondered whether or not a homophobic or careless DJ might intentionally or unintentionally juxtapose homophobic content with Frank Ocean, now that Frank Ocean has come out. Such a situation might be awkward or offensive.
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i thought he was suggesting the DJ would purposefully use the song. it's still kinda weird. whatever.
astroturfing
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well those forms of rap are terrible then. name some artists though.. who are ALL about misogyny etc. in every single track on every single album.
like i said, some rap artists who have plenty of misogyny/homophobia (like Mobb Deep or Wu-Tang) etc in their lyrics STILL have many great tracks that have none of it. so its obviously not needed, they could just drop all of that hateful shit and the music would sound the same and have the same feel.
The Return of
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Even still, he wasn't being homophobic. But the hip-hop community(rappers, djs, etc) have been known for being homophobic and not holding their tongue on it. Some wouldn't even record songs with someone bi. He's basically just saying he thinks a dj might do that. I really don't see how you read that he's being homophobic unless you are oblivious to how hip hop is or at least hip hop isn't that bad in that regard as it used to be
astroturfing
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dude youre slipping, -100 internet points for you.
+1. Not a good look right Now
He's a bit of both, he can rap too. He mostly sticks to singing though, you're right.
astroturfing
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well he is still 920,659 points ahead of me so maybe i shouldnt judge
theignoramus
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snitch fail.
PhoenixDark
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He's doing it big for chocolate brothers around the globe so I can't hate. Very brave move on his part, especially in the hip hop/r&b community. His fan base is already quite diverse so he'll be fine
Do your thing Frankie. You can smash all the dime piece dudes you want as long as the music stays good
Do your thing Frankie. You can smash all the dime piece dudes you want as long as the music stays good
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah...he's an R&B singer.
Blamespace likes to hump figures. He is already set.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Didn't see this coming and I actually know who Frank Ocean is. Seems cool that he did this since he could have just kept it secret.
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