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GAF Games of the Year 2010 - Voting Thread - VOTING CONCLUDED
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The Technomancer
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Settle in for the wait...
Cheesemeister
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Durante said:
79, actually. Just sit tight for the numbers! It's gonna be a doozy, I promise.
Haunted
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Cheesemeister requests:
I want to see how many people listed 10 titles (or a Top 5, or just 3 etc.), so we can bury any attempt to cap voting at less than 10 entries in the future.
I want to see how the percentages look for Japanese, European and US games. (Although I already know the answer and it's surely depressing).
I want to see how many people listed 10 titles (or a Top 5, or just 3 etc.), so we can bury any attempt to cap voting at less than 10 entries in the future.
I want to see how the percentages look for Japanese, European and US games. (Although I already know the answer and it's surely depressing).
The industry is truly out of ideas.GhaleonQ said:
Scythesurge
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Oops I forgot to vote, oh well.
Cheesemeister
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Haunted said:I want to see how many people listed 10 titles (or a Top 5, or just 3 etc.), so we can bury any attempt to cap voting at less than 10 entries in the future.
I want to see how the percentages look for Japanese, European and US games. (Although I already know the answer and it's surely depressing).
Duly noted.
Durante said:
Yeah, we're going to post all the data, don't worry.
Prophet Steve
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You know, you just convinced me to look into NIER.Cheesemeister said:
Visuals don't look that bad in my opinion and some of GAF seems to love so I hope it doesn't dissapoint me. Of to finding a cheap copy!
Too bad I forgot to vote, really wanted to add a vote for Bayonetta.
Prophet Steve
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To you yes, but even game critics do not praise the game a lot this time and I do not think most of GAF are more positive about it.Ashes1396 said:
lochnesssnowman
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Balls, I thought the cut off was tonight. Ah well - I was trying to get through Vanquish before posting my top 10.
semiconscious
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Legendary Warrior said:
that's what i thought... until i actually played it 2 weeks ago, made it as far as the final gauntlet, & quit...
iow: it's possible you might not
...The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I wouldn't mind seeing the numbers on 999 as well, it seemed to come up more then I thought.
Actually, it would be awesome if the entire database of information could be uploaded...
Actually, it would be awesome if the entire database of information could be uploaded...
Cheesemeister
Member
The_Technomancer said:
Just wait, I'm putting together all sorts of crazy stats for you. Last call for requests.
EDIT: Not specific game result requests, but for overall stats to be included in the final results.
Lagspike_exe
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When are the results getting published?
Cheesemeister
Member
HolyCheck said:
That's the spirit!
Lagspike_exe said:
When they're ready, maybe 24-48 hours.
Cheesemeister
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Dabanton said:
That's pretty broad, given that there's an entire console dedicated to motion.
Tailzo said:
We have the numbers of honorable mentions (that were properly formatted, of course).
There weren't too many new-to-Europe games that I saw, though I didn't specifically mark them.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I wouldn't mind seeing some representation of how clustered GAF is. Like to what extent do people who voted CoD:BO also vote for Machinarium (for instance)?
flabberghastly
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Actually, this would be a very interesting statistic. I'd be interested to see correlations between statistically significant games. I mean, I think the most obvious ones will be around certain platform exclusives, which would just highlight that not everyone has every platform, or, at the very least, that they prefer a certain platform. But it would be interesting nonetheless to see how often certain pairings or clusters emerge.viciouskillersquirrel said:
Cheesemeister
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Fredescu said:
Very easy.
HolyCheck said:
Rank frequencies and vote numbers will be included.
viciouskillersquirrel said:
As there are 361 games that received points or honorable mentions, that's 130,321 different possible pairings. Do you really want that much data? How about a short list of associated recommendations per title? It might get a bit repetitious, of course.
timetokill
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Guys, if you look at last year's results, you can see some of the types of stats we'll be providing. It will just be a lot more It was always my intent to keep expanding those stat portions, and the parser makes it easy to do so. So don't worry, we have tons of stats coming for you guys.
Something we're already doing is a checking to see how much of each list was comprised of certain exclusivities, something I've been calling our "census" data. So we're counting lists that were over 50% Sony platform entries, or 50% Nintendo platform entries, etc.
There's quite a list of stats we're gathering so just sit tight while we format it all and present it for you guys
It was always my intent to keep expanding those stat portions, and the parser makes it easy to do so. So don't worry, we have tons of stats coming for you guys. viciouskillersquirrel said:
Something we're already doing is a checking to see how much of each list was comprised of certain exclusivities, something I've been calling our "census" data. So we're counting lists that were over 50% Sony platform entries, or 50% Nintendo platform entries, etc.
There's quite a list of stats we're gathering so just sit tight while we format it all and present it for you guys
I guess voting is over, but I'll just list my picks and quick thoughts anyway.
1. Bayonetta ; Absolutely love the combat mechanics. So satisfying, and you really feel in control.
2. Mount & Blade: Warband ; Charging or doing archery from atop a horse is great stuff, as is assaulting or defending a sieged castle. Multiplayer is a lot of fun.
3. Sin & Punishment 2: Star Successor ; Great level and boss design. Really satisfying aiming with the wiimote.
4. Vanquish ; Between boosting and ERS, makes for a very dynamic shooter. Haven't finished it on hard yet, so maybe it'd rank higher when I'm done playing the game properly.
5. Dead Rising 2 ; Love the sandbox in DR. The time limits give it a nice sense of direction and urgency - you can mess around, but you always keep an eye on the deadline. Add co-op to it, and this was a blast to play.
6. Lost Planet 2 ; Love LP1, love co-op. This was an awesome experience. Some scenarios were pretty insane, and the bosses were great. Too many human opponents, however, and the campaign quality probably doesn't match that of the first game (the co-op makes up for it, though). The lack of rapidly-degenerating T-Eng took away from the sense of urgency of the first game as well.
7. Halo: Reach ; Best Halo campaign, best Halo game in the main series, with added Firefight (though I wouldn't necessarily rank it above ODST, which I like for different reasons, since it plays pretty differently as a non-Spartan).
8. Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light ; Great co-op platforming and puzzling, and level design. Fantastic game.
9. Deathsmiles ; I love Cave shmups. This is my favorite one this year (Esp2 has some nice mechanics, but a bit tooo hard for me; and I'm not too fond of how you aim your spirit thing in Guwange, though the game itself is quite good too). I'm still trying to 1cc all the missions at lvl3, though (but without suicide bullets - that's too much for me).
10. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 2 Chaos Rising ; Improved campaign from the vanilla game, and the new characters added to Last Stand added a lot (we basically broke the game with them - and managed to clear lvl 20; very satisfying!).
Haven't played Super Mario Galaxy 2 yet (still playing the 1st one), and I'm waiting for Virtual On: Force to arrive. Those two could have potentially made the list if I had more time.
My favorite game this year was Airborne Assault: Highway to the Reich, but it wasn't released this year. Best strategic/tactical combat mechanics in any game I've played. I haven't played Command Ops: Battles from the Bulge (same series, released this year) properly yet, so it would have easily gotten #1 as well if I had gotten around to playing it.
1. Bayonetta ; Absolutely love the combat mechanics. So satisfying, and you really feel in control.
2. Mount & Blade: Warband ; Charging or doing archery from atop a horse is great stuff, as is assaulting or defending a sieged castle. Multiplayer is a lot of fun.
3. Sin & Punishment 2: Star Successor ; Great level and boss design. Really satisfying aiming with the wiimote.
4. Vanquish ; Between boosting and ERS, makes for a very dynamic shooter. Haven't finished it on hard yet, so maybe it'd rank higher when I'm done playing the game properly.
5. Dead Rising 2 ; Love the sandbox in DR. The time limits give it a nice sense of direction and urgency - you can mess around, but you always keep an eye on the deadline. Add co-op to it, and this was a blast to play.
6. Lost Planet 2 ; Love LP1, love co-op. This was an awesome experience. Some scenarios were pretty insane, and the bosses were great. Too many human opponents, however, and the campaign quality probably doesn't match that of the first game (the co-op makes up for it, though). The lack of rapidly-degenerating T-Eng took away from the sense of urgency of the first game as well.
7. Halo: Reach ; Best Halo campaign, best Halo game in the main series, with added Firefight (though I wouldn't necessarily rank it above ODST, which I like for different reasons, since it plays pretty differently as a non-Spartan).
8. Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light ; Great co-op platforming and puzzling, and level design. Fantastic game.
9. Deathsmiles ; I love Cave shmups. This is my favorite one this year (Esp2 has some nice mechanics, but a bit tooo hard for me; and I'm not too fond of how you aim your spirit thing in Guwange, though the game itself is quite good too). I'm still trying to 1cc all the missions at lvl3, though (but without suicide bullets - that's too much for me).
10. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 2 Chaos Rising ; Improved campaign from the vanilla game, and the new characters added to Last Stand added a lot (we basically broke the game with them - and managed to clear lvl 20; very satisfying!).
Haven't played Super Mario Galaxy 2 yet (still playing the 1st one), and I'm waiting for Virtual On: Force to arrive. Those two could have potentially made the list if I had more time.
My favorite game this year was Airborne Assault: Highway to the Reich, but it wasn't released this year. Best strategic/tactical combat mechanics in any game I've played. I haven't played Command Ops: Battles from the Bulge (same series, released this year) properly yet, so it would have easily gotten #1 as well if I had gotten around to playing it.
flabberghastly
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The only problem I see with this might be that I'd expect a number of the top choices to be highly correlated with other top choices, just by virtue of the fact that they were mentioned so often, so for at least the top choices this probably wouldn't be terribly interesting. Maybe a separate list of the highest correlations would be more interesting. I'd much rather know that Indie Title A - which was only mentioned, say, 25 times - has a 96% correlation with Blockbuster Hit B, than to find out that GOTY has a 63% correlation with Runner-Up. This would, of course, also require some minimum threshold of votes for inclusion, or we'd have plenty of perfect correlation for games with only a mention or two.Cheesemeister said:
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Okay, okay, here's a complex one: game groupings. A look at how many lists shared more then one game with other lists.
See roughly how homogeneous or diverse the lists were, and on the lists that are fairly similar (probably five or more of the same game) see what patterns show up.
EDIT: I think someone above suggested the same thing, but I think a list based approach is more efficient then a game-based approach that requires so many more combinations. This method can be cut off past a certain point, as we don't necessarily need to know that three lists shared Bayonetta and Professor Layton. Still seems like a bit of a huge problem though, there's got to be a good way to handle this data...
See roughly how homogeneous or diverse the lists were, and on the lists that are fairly similar (probably five or more of the same game) see what patterns show up.
EDIT: I think someone above suggested the same thing, but I think a list based approach is more efficient then a game-based approach that requires so many more combinations. This method can be cut off past a certain point, as we don't necessarily need to know that three lists shared Bayonetta and Professor Layton. Still seems like a bit of a huge problem though, there's got to be a good way to handle this data...
Sgt.Pepper
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Finally! I've been expecting this for a while.
mr stroke
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A Human Becoming
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It's possible there was less voting this year than last looking at the 2009 voting thread.
I humbly recommend you play a good game instead.Legendary Warrior said:
Yeah, and Mass Effect 2 only got three votes, so quit yer trollin', Chinner.mr stroke said:
Seems like it, which surprises me. There were a lot of great releases this year, both big-budget and a few dark horses, like Super Meat Boy.ICallItFutile said:
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