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GAF. Recommend the most immersive RPG (any subgenre) on any platform.

Age of Decadence!

Oh man, I love you.

I was addicted to that game. I need more. I did a disgusting amount of playthroughs and retries. Incredible writing from a indie team that shames big AAA publishers.


For me personally, Age of Decadence, Dragon Age: Origins, The Witcher 3, Mass Effect 1 & 2. KOTOR 1 & 2. I just get utterly transfixed in these games.
 
Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden, such interesting characters and storylines to explore.

And can't believe people are saying Xenoblade X. Cool locales but you are more likely to get annoyed and lost in the game rather than getting "lost" in the game.
 
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Final Fantasy XII
 
It doesn't matter that the OP mentioned those 2 games, when the post was asking for open suggestions on an immersive RPG. It's perfectly fine for people to throw out their own favorite RPGs, and explain what makes them immersive. The term "immersive" is vaguely used anyway these days, and there are numerous aspects to attaining that for different people.

I'm not seeing how Bloodborne or Witcher 3 are magically more immersive, much less have more cohesive worlds. Bloodborne has better combat, and some good environmental storytelling...yet is so often an empty place with mostly things to kill + almost no civilization, and little in terms of character progression/customization. Witcher 3 is more similar to Bethesda games, but with less freedom, areas that also have stretches of empty landscape before the next piece of content, less customization/progression, and it's only really better trait being the storytelling.

Immersion isn't just graphical fidelity, nice animation, good storytelling or having less bugs. It also involves how a world is simulated. In Bloodborne or Witcher 3, when I pick up loot, it's just some glow on a body, some UI pops up, and the body is the same. In a Bethesda game, if I pick up a chunk of armor or a weapon, the physical object literally is removed from that body. If I see an object on a table in Skyrim, I can pick it up and throw it. If I see a river, it won't just be water graphics, it will actually have fish swimming that I can aim to catch...then cook...then eat. If I want to improve my abilities in Skyrim, I don't just get magic exp points for completing random quest tasks like Witcher 3, I get them by repeatedly using my existing abilities of the same type in the world. Fallout 4 even takes the physical attributes of a character you sculpt, and mixes that with your spouse to form your kid.

Bethesda games do have jank that can hurt your immersion in moments, but it does things other games don't even attempt to that adds immersion to my experience.

I don't think being able to do real life things in a game necessarily adds immersion at all.

My brain doesn't think it's actually doing those things, nor is it more convinced the game is real.

Immersive just means engrossing. I can easily be just as immersed in a 2d shooter with explosions and hundreds of bullets all over the screen as any game that requires me to do human things.
 
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic my favorite game of all time and the best Star Wars game ever made

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Also the sequel it's very good Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II with the restored content mod

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Both are on Steam and you can find them very cheap specially on Steam sales they run on every modern PC

Have to say that the KOTOR is a strong contender. It was an immersive game in the star wars universe unlike any game I had played. I believe I finished it, which I rarely do with games. Give it a spin.
 
I don't think being able to do real life things in a game necessarily adds immersion at all.

My brain doesn't think it's actually doing those things, nor is it more convinced the game is real.

Immersive just means engrossing. I can easily be just as immersed in a 2d shooter with explosions and hundreds of bullets all over the screen as any game that requires me to do human things.

No...immersive doesn't mean engrossing. You can be engrossed in anything to the most abstract degree, because the term boils down to something that just absorbs your attention. The goal of immersion applied to games or any other virtual thing, is to however generate a strong sense of presence in a space. Being engrossed is a just a symptom, because to generate that presence you inherently need to absorb their attention in the space. Even if you world is fictional or fantastical, you're still trying to make it feel alive, and attempt to suspend their disbelief.

You can generate that sense of presence through solid controls that make you really feel in direct command of the activity you do with your avatar (Bloodborne), have a character well written enough to pass as a person you care about rather than just some artificial NPC (Witcher 3), produce a contextual action like letting me catch a fish jumping in mid-air upstream along a river (Skyrim), or all of the above together. Each way contributes to grounding you in a world, giving it a flavor, and making you feel sucked in to it. Jank just interrupts the feeling, it doesn't kill it forever.
 
What would be considered the best Final Fantasy? I have never figured out which is the best, in terms of immersion.

FF is easily my favorite game series ever, but "immersive" isn't a word I would use to describe any of them.

When I think of immersion, I think of games like Skyrim. First-person, minimal hud (and completely removable with mods), and a world that basically just exists for you to play in.
 
Bloodborn is great but i dont know where people are finding its story. I find the souls games have almost no story from the game itself, maybe im not looking hard enough but i like my story to be more apparent.
 
I don't really know about "immersive". When i love a game, i tend to find it immersive.

But the "by platform" is what amuse me in this thread so here i go.

ATARI 2600 : Dragon Stomper
Finished it the other day, it was actually kinda fun ah ah... But Adventure is way better in my opinion... Don't know if it's a "RPG" thought.

APPLE II : Akalabeth
I actually prefer this one as the very obscure Ultima I... The fact the rom didn't worked during the crash session didn't help either... I'm actually trying to find a Ultima II rom with no save and can't find it at all, that's sad. If someone know how i can found one, it would be incredible ! Please PM me !

NES : Mother
Well... I need to play more NES J RPG... Of course if i can tell Zelda 1, it will be Zelda 1, what a good game !

Master System : Phantasy Star
I don't think it will be toped, it's my favorite 8 bits RPG after all !

Game Boy : Errrr, i liked what i did of Final Fantasy Legends/Adventure
I actually never finished those two games, what a shame ! If ZElda-like count, Link's Awakening is no brainer, Kaeru no Tame ni Kane wa Maru wasn't so bad.

SNES : Terranigma
Errrr, and Final Fantasy VI is like juuust there... But that console have so many good RPGs... It's criminal to only chose one ! I think Action RPG tends to be less immersive in general compared to heavy texted game... Just an opinion of course but this game had a so cool atmosphere that it's still one of my more immersive moment... Well i was young too.

MEGADRIVE : Star Cruiser
Well, what do you know ? I actually loved that game which came out on fan translation a few months ago, even better that Phantasy Star II and its very annoying dungeon ! It's a 3D (!!) first person RPG, with shoot, town, PNJs, story so as far of immersion goes it's very great to me !

PC Engine : Ys IV : The Dawn of Ys
Really cool A-RPG, taken a lot from the previous entry to make something even greater. It's really an awesome game with an awesome soundtrack. (Not as good soundtrack as the third one but still..) As far as immersive go, i don't know

PSX : Final Fantasy VII
Yeah yeah, i know.... But i played the game when i first got a PS2 with Final Fantasy VIII and Final Fantasy X... And that was the one who hooked me to my television for no end. This game has so many moment i just wanted to see what was next... I suppose it count as "immersive". To be PERFECTLY honest, maybe King's Field II (JP, The third named II in the US was disappointing for me) was more IMMERSIVE in the first sense of the term... But i feel like i was still hooked for more with Final Fantasy VII so... I don't know ?
(I actually lack a lot of game from that library like Chrono Cross, Xenogears or Legend of Mana)

Saturn : Panzer Dragoon Saga
Well, that one was easy... But seriously, it's an incredible atmospheric game, i know it's hard to play it but if you can, just do it.

N64 : Paper Mario
Not that i can think of more.... I actually don't like Paper Mario that much. I found it very blend compared to Mario RPG.

Gamecube : Paper Mario 2 : The Thousand Year Door
... Which is NOT the case of Paper Mario 2, what an incredible game, one of my favorite RPG ever ! And yes, the same way as Final Fantasy VII, it has so many good moment that i had a hard time stopping playing.

GBA : Mario & Luigi : Superstar Saga
Actually a lot of game on it, i was REALLY going to go with Golden Sun but then... I think the Mario & Luigi first entry (and still the best one imo) made me laugh to hard that i had a very very hard time to put down the console, it was way more immersive than Golden Sun to me.

Dreamcast : Skies of Arcadia
I'm cheating a little since i played it on Gamecube but really, it's a game that started out "alright" and then goes on and on to be something really special and i never wanted to let go of my controller.

PS2 : Persona 3 (not FES because i never played FES)
Like i said before, i tend to be very immersed in text-heavy game, more than Action game which would have been Kingdom Hearts 2... Why Persona 3 and not Persona 4 ? Because i hated dungeon in Persona 4 and that took me out of the experience a number of time. But in general i prefer Persona 4 for its warm atmosphere.... Don't know how you guys can be immersed in Shin Megami Tensei Noctune/Digital Devil Saga on PS2, that's the kind of game so harsh it takes me out of the game each time ! Well, i actually love those games but still...

DS : The World Ends With You
What immerse me the most are actually Visual Novels... Or games with a very good atmosphere but that's not the point here. The World Ends With You is really a strange game where i would always wonder what will happen next like a Visual Novel and founding myself in the Atmosphere as i battle my way in that Tokyo. What a great gem !

PSP : Trails of the Sky : First Chapter
Second chapter was actually a little disappointing since you really visit mostly place that you already know but the First Chapter ? Oh boy was it good to discover that world with all those PNJs talking about their live which evolve as you progress the game ! I really couldn't stop playing it !

PS3 : Atelier Totori
Well... A lot of you talked about the fact management game tends to immerse you... It's exactly what happened to me with Atelier Totori. Sure, i find Tales of Xillia way better as a game but wanting an object, going on travel to find the ingredients but during the travel asking your homonculus to do stuff for you and going by place which have OTHER ingredient that you will need for others quest, trying to fit all that in a small schedule was really really immersive to me... And fun !

Xbox 360 : NieR
A little like Terranigma, even with Lost Odyssey on the balance, i tend to have been hooked more on NieR, i just loved the atmosphere so much that i just played to no end !

Wii : Baroque
It could have been Xenoblade which is a much better game imo but again.... A first person RPG in a very atmospheric place where you try to understand what's happening ? There is no better way to immerse myself personally.

Wii U : Xenoblade X
Well, there is less choice on the matter... I really loved Color Splash and it really hooked me like Paper Mario 2 but Xenoblade X feels just alive, i don't even want to play the game ! I just want to go in the game, running at full speed and feeling the world around me.... It's that good... The story is really bad thought.

3DS : Devil Summoner : Soul Hackers
Hummm, Tales of the Abyss was a great contender but first person game just feels... More immersive. (well, duh) I really liked that retro game and i find it awesome that it was localized as a huge fan of the serie.

PS Vita : Ys: Memories of Celceta
If Persona 4 Golden is as good as the PS2 version i'm sure it's it... But i didn't played it on PS Vita and already mentionned a Persona game so i will go with Ys : Memories of Celceta, the first part of the game where you try to go deeper in the forest with all those people around you really felt like an incredible adventure. I actually couldn't put this one down during a family meal at Christmas ! So as far as immersion go, it's still quite good !

PC : System Shock
The more systemic approach of SS made it more immersive for me than SS2 even if i kinda like the later more somewhat... Arf, the two of them are really good ! Well i suppose Little Big Adventure 2 wouldn't count as a RPG since it would have been my choice (it's more a Zelda like) and as much as i love Undertale, it's just not "immersive" in the traditional sense. Oh, there is also Morrowind and the previous Elder Scroll (not played the other yet) but i don't know... System Shock being more "tight" was more immersive to me.

PC 98 : Corpse Party
Hey, now i'm messing with you, i mean it's not even THAT immersive when my sister is on the side translating whatever those character said.. But it's the only """RPG""" (Yep, there is RPG battles... Only one but still !) i finished on this so... Well.


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I don't know if it fits the thread and if OP will read it but i definitely had fun doing it !
 
i heard skyrim is really immersive because you can choose to kill whoever you like but the guards will catch you and put you in jail its very realistic

That sounds strangely similar to a passage I read in a game magazine once. The article was about Morrowind
 
No...immersive doesn't mean engrossing. You can be engrossed in anything to the most abstract degree, because the term boils down to something that just absorbs your attention. The goal of immersion applied to games or any other virtual thing, is to however generate a strong sense of presence in a space. Being engrossed is a just a symptom, because to generate that presence you inherently need to absorb their attention in the space. Even if you world is fictional or fantastical, you're still trying to make it feel alive, and attempt to suspend their disbelief.

You can generate that sense of presence through solid controls that make you really feel in direct command of the activity you do with your avatar (Bloodborne), have a character well written enough to pass as a person you care about rather than just some artificial NPC (Witcher 3), produce a contextual action like letting me catch a fish jumping in mid-air upstream along a river (Skyrim), or all of the above together. Each way contributes to grounding you in a world, giving it a flavor, and making you feel sucked in to it. Jank just interrupts the feeling, it doesn't kill it forever.

Well written characters might make me enjoy a game more, but they've never convinced me that a game is real. Same with good controls. Might help a game be more engrossing. It won't feel more real.

Catching a fish or cooking does literally nothing for me. In a video game it's a purely arbitrary action.
 
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Available on GOG.

In terms of immersion, you ARE in fantastical Medieval Germany.

It's part text choose your own adventure (where the choices can at times get surprisingly deep into your party's capabilities), part open world RPG circa 1992. While the combat isn't exactly stellar, in terms of atmosphere it's hard to top.

Here's a link to the RPGCodex retrospective which goes into it in detail.

Set in the year of our Lord 1400 in the Holy Roman Empire, Darklands had a lot of things going for it. It had “sandbox” gameplay before that became a buzzword, where the main goal was simply to travel around the land and become rich and famous, with plenty of randomly generated quests and encounters, and an incredibly well-researched historical setting with a twist – the game's intent was to show medieval Germany as it was seen through the eyes of its contemporaries, including supernatural elements from Germanic folklore, miraculous works of saints and much more.
 
Allow me to sell you on Mount & Blade Warband (Recommend going PC for it, but it is available on PS4 and Xbone)

Here's one of my favorite Mount & Blade stories, because it's so much awesome that happened without any sort of predetermined story scripting.

My dude starts out as pretty much a nobody. I think he was generated to where his family was once low-level nobility, but he doesn't have any land, money, or fame to his name. The first thing I did is start hitting up the town arenas to participate in the open melees to get some quick and easy cash. I eventually built up a reputation as a minor but skilled prize fighter who consistently wins these melees. WIth the money from these events, I eventually start building up a small but effective group of soldiers to go out and hunt bandits and stuff (that way I could finish the little bit of scripted plot stuff the game gives you at the beginning). Managing an ever growing mercenary band started to require a little more funding than my small scale prize fighting went, so I started to participate in actual tournaments. The kind that lords and ladies actually attended. The kind that pays out *really* good. Eventually, I start pulling in even more money and really built up a reputation. People started actually noticing me.

So I'm out patrolling for bandits when I get approached by a dude leading a *really* impressive army. I've still not quite taken much of a look at the list of lords in the country, having spent most of my time being a prize fighter and bandit hunter, so I don't recognize him as any of the lords I've dealt with thus far. He offers me a few easy jobs requiring my skills and those of my mercenary group. So I do them, thinking that getting in with a lord with that impressive of an army might open up some good opportunities. I do a few more jobs for him, and he rewards me with money and favor.

Then the game makes an announcement It turns out this lord is crazy prominent in the kingdom and has just been named the grand marshal of the kingdom. In Game of Thrones terms, this guy is the hand of the king. He's the second most powerful person in the entire kingdom, and I'm really building up favor with this dude. To the point to where he even starts to request I do official business for him regarding the king. This, of course, in turn, puts me into the attention of the king, though that will become important later.

So I'm pretty much the grand marshal's go to guy for almost anything. He has a village that's not paying taxes? I'm the guy he sends to collect. An uppity lord is starting to challenge him and threaten the stability of the kingdom? I'm both the guy sent to start rumors and then champion for him in duels when the guy challenges him.

Obviously, I'm doing a lot of his dirty work, but he also has me doing some pretty awesome stuff, too. In one of my favorite bits of this game being pure unscripted sandbox awesome, the marshal's brother gets caught during a battle in the middle of a brutal war with our neighboring kingdom. The enemies recognize that he's the younger brother of the grand marshal and thus immediately sneak him away to a dungeon deep within their territory and demand a huge ransom. The marshal's estate was obviously rich, but paying the ransom was out of the question. Dude needed to be rescued. Who does the marshal trust to sort out this situation?

This guy.

So I'm selected to mount a small guerrilla force deep into enemy territory in the middle of a brutal war where they are on high alert, sneak into the prison, extract the dude's brother, and get him back to safety. Getting there was easy enough. Getting him out was easy enough. Getting him back, however, was an absolute mad dash for the border, as the rescue force was being chased by multiple large armies of dudes trying to recover this one lordling. Either way, we made it back and the marshal's brother was back with his family.

So obviously the marshal totally owes the hell out of me. I get money and fame from him, but I want more. I want land. I want power. I have power by proxy, but power by proxy isn't good enough. I want to build a name for myself. So I start requesting land and shit from whenever I help him win battles and territory. I always get passed over. I ask for him to put in a good word for me with the king (who is already getting pretty fond of my dude, which, again, becomes important later). He always promotes other lords and shit for stuff. I'm getting a bit annoyed.

And then the bigger insult started. The marshal's daughter had been pretty lovey-dovey towards me and I was pretty accepting of her advances. We actually spend a lot of time courting each other. I even learn a bunch of poetry just to please her. And that shit is expensive. Of course, the marshal kept refusing to accept the possibility of his daughter and me getting together. The final straw came when he announced that she would be wedded off to this random lord of his who happened to come from a rich and prominent family. Oh, and this happened almost immediately after the badass rescue of his brother from deep within enemy territory.

Fuck that.

So remember how one of the things he had me do was spread rumors and shit about rival lords? While most of those guys were legitimate threats to the kingdom's stability, it turns out that one of them was actually his biggest political rival who really wasn't threatening the kingdom in any way. Soooo I went back to that guy and started to work for him behind my lord's back. Seeing as how he wasn't quite in as prominent of a position as my good lord marshal, he was a little more willing to grant me the kind of power that I wanted after I had supported him long enough. We decided to turn the tables on the marshal by starting rumors and shit about him. Amusingly enough, the marshal came to me to champion for him when he tried to challenge the dude for starting rumors against him, but I was "conveniently" busy fighting a battle by request of the king. This also extended to other request. Hey, we were at war. Chances are I did have more important things to do than be his dog.

Oh, so, remember how I've been mentioning that I've been getting some attention from the king? Well, part of what I was doing now that I had his attention was to start suggesting who he should support and not. Originally, I was all about "yo, you should support the standing marshal on shit. He's cool." but now I was not so inclined to do so. Instead, I started suggesting he should perhaps listen to the marshal's rival (re: the guy I was secretly working for now).

Eventually, the rival starts to gain more favor with the king (I'm not saying that I'm fully responsible for this, but it certainly helped) and the marshal starts to go through some blunders (again, I'm not saying this was all me, but....). The king decides we need some changes, and the rival is named the new marshal. Obviously this meant that the new marshal would probably become like the old one in how he would probably be more careful about who gets his favor and shit...except I had already wormed my way into marrying his daughter. I was family now and basically his heir. SCORE.

So I start getting land, wealth, and power pretty regularly. And the best part? Most of the land I got was from land won back from the neighboring enemy kingdom that had captured it in prior months. And who was the original owner of all those territories? Why it was the old marshal! Who, by the way, was now pretty much out of our kingdom's political process and struggling to retain any sense of influence over his own land.

None of this was scripted.

I fucking love Mount & Blade.
 
No...immersive doesn't mean engrossing.

It literally does, that's basically the dictionary definition. A simulationist representation of reality is not a prerequisite for a game to be immersive. You personally may feel more immersed by a simulationist world, but that doesn't make it the definition of immersion.

Here's an article talking about the science of studying immersion in gaming. Notable immersive games discussed here include Tetris and Street Fighter.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2010/aug/10/games-science-of-immersion
 
Some great suggestions here, but I have to go with Witcher 3. The game literally made me use oils and signs on the higher difficulties.

Other suggestions would be Divinity OS and Baldurs Gate series.
 
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic my favorite game of all time and the best Star Wars game ever made

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Also the sequel it's very good Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II with the restored content mod

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Both are on Steam and you can find them very cheap specially on Steam sales they run on every modern PC

Beat me to it. Kotor 1 was such an unbelievable game.
 
Bloodborn is great but i dont know where people are finding its story. I find the souls games have almost no story from the game itself, maybe im not looking hard enough but i like my story to be more apparent.

Souls games in general hide almost all of their lore behind item descriptions and the like, but Bloodborne in particular has a more cohesive story, so every cutscene and boss dialogue gives tidbits of the same story for the most part, and since it's more in your face (in comparison), it makes it far easier to understand for long time fans.

I'm the kind of player who barely gets anything from the story in these games, but with Bloodborne I understood most of it without looking things up online, although I wouldn't blame anyone for still being confused lol, they're obtuse. I wouldn't have it any other way tho.
 
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion on PC modded with SSAO, ENB Color Effect, and a light sources plug in is the most immersive game I've ever played.
 
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