KernelPanic
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So it's just our fault for remembering the original game?
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
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Gamasutra-EA downplays Dungeon Keeper free-to-play criticism/rate it 1-4 stars?
- Thread starter ekim
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Holy shit!
Can someone explain the major events at their highest and lowest points?
Their corporate practices creep into everything. You would be blind to not see that. EA bankrupting would be entirely their own doing aside from that insisting that they know what is best for the consumer. As such, I doubt that you will see another simcity anytime in this generation console wise (5~7 years). Stuff like that tend to kill off a brand/IP entirely.
You have to identify the source of the problem before a solution can be had. You seem to be arguing in favor of all the development houses under EA somehow magically having issues ranging from core design to accessability and that none of it is releated to the main company vision/direction. I find it much easier to see that EA is laying the groundwork/rails for this stuff and telling the devs to start up the trains and it comes as no surprise when the train goes flying off the rails afterwards with the natural consumer reaction to it.
It is just par for course for them and to expect otherwise would be an excercise in insanity. If you are willing to accept those things though, then by all means have at it.
IISANDERII
Member
Haven't been on Android long, but I have never seen anything on the Play Shop have less than 4 stars or 4.5 stars.
EA is turning into an anime character at this point.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Want to rate it 1-4 stars, this happens:
This is both incredibly clever and complete bullshit at the same time. Bravo I guess.
Ignored the From Ashes DLC did we? Where they cut the content from the main game and sold it as paid DLC. You could literally change 1 line in a text file to enable it.
Not even remotely. I'm simply arguing against boycotting a decent EA published title because EA puts out some crap. They are indeed putting out more crap like this, SimCity, etc due to their policies, but rather than a blanket boycott of EA I simply don't buy the titles that involve this bullshit
If Titanfall (for example) turns out to be something I'm interested in, then I won't let this stop it. If it's full of pay to win DLC and other EA-esque problems, then I'll take my money elsewhere. I'm simply saying judge the product, not the developer or publisher.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Mobile free to play needs to go the way of waggle, plastic guitars, and mmos as soon as possible
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Enjoy your third consecutive worst company award EA.
In simply buying titanfall you are accepting at a minimum that paying additional fees for an online only game is OK, or being restricted to origin and whatever other oddities that will entail with its flavor of DRM and server up/downtime.
In a similar vein of thought, I didn't buy diablo 3 as a byproduct of the buisness practices put forward forcing that issue alone.
There can be different arguments to be had individually for different titles and companies. The problem lies in trying to wash all of those away simply because title X is a "good game". Some things can ruin even that and will only be allowed to become more pervasive if it is supported over time.
Gotta agree here. Plus it has the added benefit of showing up on their metrics. If everyone blanket boycotts EA, their sales numbers will universally go down but they won't know what the problem is. If everybody just boycotts specific games with shitty DLC/F2P/etc, then all of a sudden, they see those games don't sell well, and products without those practices do.
RedNumberFive
Banned
If that's the rationalization you need, then go for it. I prefer to remain consistent.
DRM/Fees etc come into it in terms of not buying the software, if you find them unacceptable then of course don't buy it. I honestly only used TF as an example because it's all I can think of that EA are publishing this year that's not Fifa or Madden
Again, I'm arguing that even if I want the game, and I didn't have any problem with anything involving the title, that it would be silly not to buy it just to stick it to EA for titles that do this. Vote with your wallet and only support titles that you agree with. I'm not sure how clear I can be on this point without repeating myself again, so I'll leave it at that
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Basically the higher points was the PS2-generation era.
EA was a company that released a lot of games with multiple-SKU versions for different platforms. Licensing was profitable (EA had the Bond license and released a bunch of tie-in games from movies like Batman). Games like NFS Underground, their sports games become great hits and also it was an era where middle sized IP could be profitable.
What happened? HD increasing costs happened.
When releasing so many games like EA and considering the higer costs associated with HD development you need every one of them to be high sellers, but as the market showed only a few games can reach those numbers. Games like Mirror Edge or Dead Space were praised by it's quality but they didn't exactly set the charts on fire. The same happened with games, not so praised but also big productions, like Dante's Inferno. Basically they realized by painfully bleeding money, that the core market and the big boys in the industry can't afford to release games that sell 1 million copies like before, they need big hits and only certain games/IP's are big hits. So EA scaled back the numbers of game they produced for consoles and started focusing on mobile stuff which is were the real money is these days.
More or less is this, unless I'm really wrong.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
It takes wide-spread, articulate shitstorm plus a shot to the wallet to get movement in the right direction reguarding this stuff (see how it took both crappy Bone preorders plus "it's just a PR problem" being routinely debunked from all angles before the 180s hit).
That said, I sympathize with Dougald, as I've had that choice to make a number of times, and have come down on both sides with my decision. It's usually a matter of whether or not I feel the bad behavior was indiciative of their corporate culture or not.