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[The Chairman]

So the KFC Dating Sim developer talked on Twitter on how Kotaku tried to rip him off for their negative review of his game.





Here is the "pricing" for their "services"

How can we take these guys game reviews seriously if they take money from devs shamelessly like this??

Edit: it looks like he deleted the tweets, i guess he is afraid of having legal troubles with Kotaku. archive added.

Twitter

archived 4 Oct 2019 04:15:00 UTC

archive.ph

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

No one should ever take anything about that shithole website seriously.

 

[SantaC]

No one should ever take anything about that shithole website seriously.

Especially since it is Eras lovechild.

 

[Roni]

We need more grassroots gaming websites, the big ones have mostly gone greedy as fuck.

 

[mcjmetroid]

I don't understand they wanted them to pay Kotaku money for speeding the negative review?

Why would you do that?

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

These are the folks that want you to feel bad about the games you like.

 

[FranXico]

Objectivity is a...

I can't.

 

[zeorhymer]

I'm not into marketing, but I don't understand the "units." Units of what? Clicks? Pages?

 

[anthraticus]

We need more grassroots gaming websites, the big ones have mostly gone greedy as fuck.

 

[Spukc]

Errr doesn't this happen all the fucking time?

 

[Starlight Lotice]

He should be careful, they might just post all that Harry Potter/Poke Porn onto him as a Blackmail for him to pay the money.

Every month Kotaku seems to get lower and lower in standards. If this and the Porn doesn't kill them, then what will?

 

[Punished Miku]

Objectivity is a...

I can't.

 

[Graciaus]

I enjoyed my hour on that KFC game. If there was ever a game that didn't need a "professional" review this would be it.

 

[Fbh]

Wait. Game reviewers who instantly get upset when publishers don't give them free review copies and who are also quick to attack publishers as soon as some form of "fair use" issue comes up (usually on youtube) actually charge people to quote their reviews?!?!?!

 

[Revolutionary]

Especially since it is Eras lovechild.

Makes sense considering it's under 16 years old.

 

[Texas Pride]

I've said it for awhile. They're whores pandering to the highest bidder.

 

[TheWanderingOgre]

All according to...

 

[Esppiral]

It's called business you want to take advantage of something I did? Pay.

 

[Abriael_GN]

It's called business you want to take advantage of something I did? Pay.

You mean Kotaku should pay developers for making money with the reviews (and news, and everything else) about their games?

 

[xool]

I'm not into marketing, but I don't understand the "units." Units of what? Clicks? Pages?

Should be boxes - ie back of box quotes etc .. but digital release .. I dunno ?

 

[xool]

I guess they can control use of their logo .. and charge for it.

As for pull quotes - I'd be suprised ..



Is this shit normal ?

 

[ManaByte]

Errr doesn't this happen all the fucking time?

Usually it's the other way around. The publisher would ask permission to use a quote. And they don't pay for it.

 

[keraj37]

When I was publishing my first game, I contacted various individuals at you tube to do a review of my game - 95% of them sent me back a template email with pricing, like - $500 Including your game in top 3 of out 10 best android games of the month. $1500 whole episode of our android games series devoted to your game, etc.

OP doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[Spukc]

When I was publishing my first game, I contacted various individuals at you tube to do a review of my game - 95% of them sent me back a template email with pricing, like - $500 Including your game in top 3 of out 10 best android games of the month. $1500 whole episode of our android games series devoted to your game, etc.

OP doesn't surprise me at all.

yup this.
android gaming is DEAD it was nearly impossible for me to find lists with good games.
so i ended up with buying ports of games i knew where good.
check the android gaming reddit if you want to have a laugh

 

[spawn]

I'm sure that this sort of thing happens everywhere. I'm not surprised

 

[Codes 208]

Didnt EA catch flak for doing something like this a few years ago? I couldve sworn it was either battlefront or battlefield that they were called out on.

When I was publishing my first game, I contacted various individuals at you tube to do a review of my game - 95% of them sent me back a template email with pricing, like - $500 Including your game in top 3 of out 10 best android games of the month. $1500 whole episode of our android games series devoted to your game, etc.

OP doesn't surprise me at all.

Youtubers i can definitely believe do this. The vanoss crew for example often have segments talking about games people should play with #ad but they never really play the games themselves (or atleast never for more than one episode.)

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Makes sense considering it's un...

Makes sense considering it's under 16 years old.

Oh son of a bitch.

 

[Shifty]

Kotaku going full IGN.

Not a good look, and they didn't look too pretty to start with

Makes sense considering it's un...




Oh son of a bitch.

Your low-hanging fruit has been purloined, good sir.

 

[NickFire]

I never knew reviewers charge to have their review scores or quotes referenced in marketing. That's real shady IMO.

 

[Triquick]

Looks like he removed all of them, better hope some one archived the set.

 

[Shai-Tan]

As far as I know advertising side of Kotaku has nothing to do with reporting/reviewing/editorial side.

And would wait for the full story on this because as presented it makes no sense

 

[demigod]

Tweets gone, did the Kotaku ninjas get him?

 

[Hypereides]

Tweets gone, did the Kotaku ninjas get him?

Twitter

archived 4 Oct 2019 04:15:00 UTC

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[logicslayer]

Ummm... That has to be a scam and likely not from Kotaku. Now he deletes these tweets? I know everyone loves to hate Kotaku, but perhaps we should hear the whole story?

This dude needs to shut the fuck up. It's like he's trying to shit on "journalists" while being a "journalist". He has no idea what the fuck he is talking about. He admits so in the video.

 

[16bitwarzvet]

it's a sad state for gaming journalism..i'm just going to dream of something better...EGM, GamePro, and the solitude of the bathroom. Ah...those were the good ol days.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

gaming journalism

 

[TheSadRanger]

For an extra $5 you get unsolicited dick pics sent to you from Patrick Klepek.

 

[Helios]

Ummm... That has to be a scam and likely not from Kotaku. Now he deletes these tweets? I know everyone loves to hate Kotaku, but perhaps we should hear the whole story?

Yeah, as much as I hate Kotaku, I'll be treating this with a fair bit of skepticism.

 

[Foamy]

What that pricing scale tells me is that when reviewing a AAA game reviewers are probley reminded that if they throw a positive quotable line in, the company has a chance of making bank for being used in advertisements and box covers.
That aside, Kotaku has been shit dating back to last generation.

 

[Contica]

Usually it's the other way around. The publisher would ask permission to use a quote. And they don't pay for it.

Yeah, this.
The Kotaku story sounds completely insane, never heard of anything like that.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

I still use Metacritic as a litmus test for videogames.

Fight me, GAF.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

I still use Metacritic as a litmus test for videogames.

Fight me, GAF.

It's a useful aggregate tool. I don't usually care about the actual number given, but it's a nice depot for a bunch of fan-made and journo-made reviews.

 

[FranXico]

I still use Metacritic as a litmus test for videogames.

Fight me, GAF.

Not as good as OpenCritic, because it uses weighed averages.
As such, it empowered sites such as Eurogamer (who gave MGS4 a mere 8/10 and lowered its aggregate score).

Change to OpenCritic. At least they acknowledged MGSV as Mighty.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Not as good as OpenCritic, because it uses weighed averages.
As such, it empowered sites such as Eurogamer (who gave MGS4 a mere 8/10 and lowered its aggregate score).

Change to OpenCritic. At least they acknowledged MGSV as Mighty.

Opencritc is my go-to nowadays, but it used to be Metacritic, still is for older games.

 

[Tygeezy]

These are the folks that want you to feel bad about the games you like.

Game shaming!

 

[Yoshi]

Using the Kotaku logo, fine, that is their trademark, but citing the website? How can they charge for that at all?

 

[Fake]

Big yikes.

 

[Bigrx1]

Reading the OP and other comments here just reinforces why I never go with official site reviews for games, except less corporate ones like Easy Allies. Yes user reviews can be flawed when it's a metabomb on metacritic or something, but there are way more sites than just metacritic to use and I would rather see a general consensus from 30,000 user review ratings to get an idea for game quality.

 

[DonF]

Super shitty

 

[Portugeezer]

Reading the OP and other comments here just reinforces why I never go with official site reviews for games, except less corporate ones like Easy Allies. Yes user reviews can be flawed when it's a metabomb on metacritic or something, but there are way more sites than just metacritic to use and I would rather see a general consensus from 30,000 user review ratings to get an idea for game quality.

True, but if Huber reviews Shenmue 3 I know it will be BS.